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hello from allanon the other "truth"

Postby allanon2 » Tue May 17, 2005 11:11 pm

you will see many people bashing me and saying what we say on our website is a lie well take a look for yourself and see the other truth
www.stopburningman.org

we are a open society correct? we like conversation and freedom of speach.

So take a look and I think our site speaks for itself.
and here is our repsinse from the 2003 afterburn report. many of you never have seen it
http://www.stopburningman.org/afterburn03.html
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Postby Wakawaka » Wed May 18, 2005 12:11 am

Yawn... go away silly man.
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Postby Janka » Wed May 18, 2005 3:01 am

I have not seen anyone say a word about you or your website, but then again, I am new on ePlaya. The website is kind of tedious to read through, though. I suggest you add a coherent two-paragraph summary to the very beginning of the front page.

Also, from what I read it seems to me that you would reach your ecological goals better by working with the BM people concerned about the same things, instead of using your time in stupid bickering and breeding hostility. Not that I am an expert.
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Postby dragonfly Jafe » Wed May 18, 2005 7:29 am

Janka wrote:...kind of tedious to read through...


This is a good 1 sentance summary of this "group". Here would be a possible 2 paragraph summary (IMHO);

This is a group (possibly only 1 person pretending to be a group) that has a history going back a few years of posting anti-burningman rhetoric on Eplaya. The main points appear to be that burningman "harms" the black rock desert playa, the people that attend burningman are not environmentally conscious, and that the BMllc is in cahoots with the BLM to let this event continue. Most Eplayans ignore him now.

In years past, some members of this group belonged to another group devoted to driving dodge neons at high speed across the playa. They claim they do not do this anymore, but one of the main objections they raise is the alleged creation of "playa serpents" in the region of the BM city. The implication is that BM is responsible for these "playa serpents" (despite the fact that their existance has been documented long before BM ever existed). Some Eplayans think that this alone explains the group's motivation, and that they still race their dodge neons (and object to being closed out for the few months that BM is there...)
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Postby EvilDustBooger » Wed May 18, 2005 8:59 am

I say stop the burning man stoppers !

Ass-Hats!

There , I said it ! That feels kinda good........
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Postby Lassen Forge » Wed May 18, 2005 9:01 am

Nice summary!
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed May 18, 2005 9:22 am

Ah, typosaurus rex has finally learned to send his "prose" through the spellcheck before posting here.

Does anyone notice that his grammer is worse than the finns?

Oh well, I guess I'm a confirmed "basher." Would that I was as good as re-writing history.
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Postby Badger » Wed May 18, 2005 2:21 pm

Oh well, I guess I'm a confirmed "basher."


Basher? Wait till Isotopia starts chewing on this one's ass.

Rex is boring as ever BTW.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed May 18, 2005 3:20 pm

Badger wrote:Rex is boring as ever BTW.
Saving for retirement means that he can't afford that personality transplant.


And I aint donating.
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Re: hello from allanon the other "truth"

Postby spectabillis » Wed May 18, 2005 3:33 pm

allanon2 wrote:you will see many people bashing me and saying what we say on our website is a lie well take a look for yourself and see the other truth...we are a open society correct? we like conversation and freedom of speach.


Fortunately (unlike the real world) this is an open board. I suspect what you have to say is a rehash of previous comments and arguments and would be using this board for your personal crusade with little to no concern for the opinions, comments, and intentions of others (and thier community).


Of course I could be proven wrong.
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Re: hello from allanon the other "truth"

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed May 18, 2005 3:52 pm

spectabillis wrote:Of course I could be proven wrong.
Of course, I'm not a moniter, so I'm free to say that the universe could be blown out my butt any moment now.
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no spell check used just luckI guess

Postby allanon2 » Wed May 18, 2005 11:28 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Ah, typosaurus rex has finally learned to send his "prose" through the spellcheck before posting here.

Does anyone notice that his grammer is worse than the finns?

Oh well, I guess I'm a confirmed "basher." Would that I was as good as re-writing history.


hello to you also
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Re: hello from allanon the other "truth"

Postby allanon2 » Wed May 18, 2005 11:30 pm

spectabillis wrote:
allanon2 wrote:you will see many people bashing me and saying what we say on our website is a lie well take a look for yourself and see the other truth...we are a open society correct? we like conversation and freedom of speach.


Fortunately (unlike the real world) this is an open board. I suspect what you have to say is a rehash of previous comments and arguments and would be using this board for your personal crusade with little to no concern for the opinions, comments, and intentions of others (and thier community).


Of course I could be proven wrong.


its not Just me Its about 10 of us that still care and have not Been Bought.

seen The trees that earthguardians planted? i think they are all dead now.Call that restoration?

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Postby Wakawaka » Thu May 19, 2005 12:16 am

Pictures of sticks in a bucket...well you won me over.

Spectabillis is right on.
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Postby joel the ornery » Thu May 19, 2005 6:16 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
spectabillis wrote:Of course I could be proven wrong.
Of course, I'm not a moniter, so I'm free to say that the universe could be blown out my butt any moment now.


I'd pay a dollar for that!
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Re: hello from allanon the other "truth"

Postby Mr. Mellow » Thu May 19, 2005 10:52 pm

allanon2 wrote: you will see many people bashing me and saying what we say on our website is a lie

It's not a lie, it's just poorly researched and draws conclusions based on faulty premises.

allanon2 wrote: So take a look and I think our site speaks for itself.

That much is true.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Fri May 20, 2005 11:16 am

Dang, Mr Mellow has posted five times and been a member of the site for a whole day. Yet we have already corrupted his mind to that extent.


Or



the stopbmorg claims are as flimsy as tissue paper.
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then again.....

Postby waltsnipe » Wed May 25, 2005 10:21 am

......I've been hearing for a while that this whole "group" is really just a Cacophony Society goof. That would explain the Neons bit.....would anyone really even buy a Dodge Neon, much less "race" it....?
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed May 25, 2005 2:53 pm

If that's the case, the one who does the wounded pride of rex is a master. And that he can fake snivel so quickly is truely astonishing.
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Postby Badger » Wed May 25, 2005 10:56 pm

I don't know about Cacophony but if you'd heard him on the radio a few months back you'd have laughed your ass off. The guy elucidates with the same level of 'expertise' that he displays in his typing skills.

Definitely a whiney mass of bumbling fucktardness. I pissed on myself laughing at his radio cameo. Christ, even the radio announcer steered clear of tagging him as anything other than 'an opponent of BM.'
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Postby theCryptofishist » Thu May 26, 2005 8:07 am

Don't suppose you have tapes I could borrow. Maybe we can get one of the djs to do some sampling. . .
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Postby Kinetic IV » Thu May 26, 2005 8:34 am

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Found under a Google image search for "Rex Scates"....enough said.
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Postby Captain Goddammit » Thu May 26, 2005 7:03 pm

Oh boy! My favorite cartoon character Wrecks is back! Yay! Say something else... it's just killin' me! More!
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Postby Mister Jellyfish Mister » Thu May 26, 2005 9:50 pm

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Re: hello from allanon the other "truth"

Postby Observer » Sat May 28, 2005 6:36 am

allanon2 wrote:you will see many people bashing me and saying what we say on our website is a lie well take a look for yourself and see the other truth
www.stopburningman.org

we are a open society correct? we like conversation and freedom of speach.


Sigh. Welcome back, Rex. Those who aren't familiar with Rex might check out this thread. Rex is one of those fun people who, when the argument doesn't go his way, is of good cheer because he knows that he can repeat the same discredited points ad nauseum until his more rational opposition gets tired of responding to him ad nauseum, leaving him with the last word.

Rex, there is nothing censorious about referring to somebody who resorts to that kind of tactic as being a pest. What can I say, other than *plonk*? I've had my turn, now the newer newbies can go play with you.
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Postby TheJudge » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:16 am

Yay! I KNEW there was a reason to visit the e-playa again. Its like a virtual meet and greet in here! We all share a common interest in bashing everyone's favorite easy target.

Glad to see that Rex is back for another round of everyone calling him on his bullshit.

Rex, you are the Weeble-Wobble of message forums.

Care to discuss playa serpents again?
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Postby allanon2 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:59 pm

TheJudge wrote:Yay! I KNEW there was a reason to visit the e-playa again. Its like a virtual meet and greet in here! We all share a common interest in bashing everyone's favorite easy target.

Glad to see that Rex is back for another round of everyone calling him on his bullshit.

Rex, you are the Weeble-Wobble of message forums.

Care to discuss playa serpents again?


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Date: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:39 pm
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"> And so far, no one has showed me any evidence to
suggest that Burning
> Man is damaging the environment. In fact, I've heard
nothing but praise
> for Burning Man's stewardship of the land."

If you go to the site at other times of the year, you
will see that there is a depression now at the site.
The very silt picked up and blown out now is a
different color than the silt from elsewhere on the
playa. This is because the protective crust (which is
damaged elsewhere on the playa) but completely
destroyed year round on the site itself. The silt
which leaves the site is deposited down wind, some on
the playa, some in the Jackson mountains and some
clear out on the Owyhee desert.

As much as pollution from the coast and central valley
of California damages the Sierra, the silt blown out
over Northern Nevada damages the environment. Have
you ever wondered why the air clarity in Nevada is
less than in Arizona and in New Mexico? It is because
of the silt blown out of the many dry lake beds.. The
problem with the BM site is the intensity of the loss.

Not to mention that the use of the wilderness for a
dense urban city is a blight on the human soul. A zit
on God's masterpiece.

the above was posted by treecutter a very respected local, and guide in the blackrock desert.
are you saying he knows nothing? if no one can beleive him then you can never beleive anyone

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Postby Captain Goddammit » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:25 pm

Hey Wrecks...

How soon are we supposed to forget the photos of YOU racing your Neon on the playa, slidin' around and screwing up the surface a HELL of a lot more than I ever do slowly cruising my artcar a few days a year?

You're a hypocrite of the first order. Case Fucking Closed.
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Postby Fat SAM » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:48 pm

Here are a few words that you guys can arrange as you wish:

Skates, jag, fucking, He's, That, a, Rex.

Also, if you want to, here are some other word to play with:

anus, gibbon, finger, Rex, Why?!?, Maury Povich show.
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