c) We had a governor who needed firing. If Schwarzenegger starts fucking up, then we'll fire his ass too, in effect having the runoff election Camejo wanted. But it would be hard to fuck up worse than Davis. If all he does is veto all the pork-barrel crap the legislature is so fond of passing, I'll consider him at least a partial success.
Les 52 plus dangereux dignitaires américains
Le jeu de cartes du régime Bush
Le dessous des cartes de l'administration Bush révèle une équipe qui conduit une « révolution néo-conservatrice » en rupture avec l'histoire et les valeurs de son pays.
George W. Bush s'est emparé du pouvoir avec la complicité de la Cour suprême et malgré les suffrages des électeurs ; un système de surveillance de chaque citoyen a été mis en place avec l'USA Patriot Act ; les militaires ont été autorisés à intervenir dans la vie politique intérieure ; un appareil de propagande a été constitué ; le pays a renoncé au droit des peuples à disposer d'eux-mêmes et s'est engagé dans des campagnes coloniales en Afghanistan et en Irak.
Ce n'est plus d'un simple changement de politique dont il s'agit, mais d'un nouveau régime qui menace les libertés sur le sol américain et la paix internationale.
Reprenant les théories philosophiques de Léo Strauss, Alan Bloom et Samuel Huntigton, qui servent de références à cette administration, nous avons classé ces personnalités en quatre catégories correspondantes aux couleurs des cartes.
Kinetic II wrote:After seeing that last post, I'm sending a nice donation to the Democratic National Committee: http://www.democrats.org/
Hillary dangerous? Yeah, right. I smell fear in the air. And it's coming from the Republican camp.
a) people were tired of politics as usual- what were they going to do, elect another career politician?
b) Our other choices were to elect a bigot who would've handed California to Mexico on a silver platter, or another career politician.
c) We had a governor who needed firing. If Schwarzenegger starts fucking up, then we'll fire his ass too, in effect having the runoff election Camejo wanted. But it would be hard to fuck up worse than Davis.
Patience wrote:California's economy has taken a nosedive with Gray Davis in office. This is unquestionably true.
Patience wrote:But guess what? The U.S. economy as a whole sucks right now! Unemployment is up 10 percent nationwide since Bush took office. Inflation rates are up.
Patience wrote:The federal budget, $280 billion in surplus when Bush took office, is now over $300 billion in deficit.
patience wrote:Of course California's economy is in the toilet. Welcome to Bush's America, pass the bullets.
stuart wrote:we did elect a career politician in california; his name is pete wilson. He is just wearing the Arnold puppet at the moment.
Stuart wrote:As far as the unemployment reported at 6.1% that number sure seems not too bad. Unfortunately, that statistic is horribly outmoded, especially in this economy. That number has no reflection on underemployment nor does it take into account folks who have been out of work so long that they no longer show up on the roles because they are no longer eligible for benefits. For a more accurate view on how we are doing take a look at household bankruptcy claims.
Stuart wrote:Tom, re: environmental legislation that was passed that you feel, and I do see your point, has hampered business in california. The solution is clearly to enact sensible, sustainable policies globally.
TestesInSac wrote:RE: household bankruptcies, I can't see using a measure of <u>personal irresponsibility</u> as a barometer of the health of the economy. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but in times past people either learned how to conserve or they died of starvation.
Don Muerto wrote:TestesInSac wrote:RE: household bankruptcies, I can't see using a measure of <u>personal irresponsibility</u> as a barometer of the health of the economy. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but in times past people either learned how to conserve or they died of starvation.
Jeez Tom. You act like we don't live in a competitive economic system. Nobody is <u>trying</u> to lose, but losing is built into the system and los<u>ers</u> are inevitable. I am not saying that the individual bears no responsibility within the system, but its not a level playing field from the word go, and again, there *have* to be losers in a capatalist system. It's incredible compassionate of you to prefer them to die rather than lean on the tax base for a semi-fresh start. Would you care to repair to the library for a warm glass of infant's blood?
Sorry, but "in times past" people also held others as slaves, beat/killed their spouses and progeny with impunity, and burned people at the stake.
Don Muerto wrote:Sorry if I misread your post. It struck me as incredibly callous and I posted in anger.
Don Muerto wrote:However, I wonder just how many personal bankruptcies you have actually witnessed, whether these were small or big time, and whether the 99.9% you state has any bearing on what is really going on in the world at large.
TestesInSac wrote:8 or so, all small-time, students and a girlfriend, and yes, I think it is representative, the sample size notwithstanding.
TestesInSac wrote:More than a political philosophy, it's a personal practice. If I consume something, I'm responsible for making sure the trade is fair.
TestesInSac wrote:If I evade (via bankruptcy, for example) compensating the provider of whatever I've consumed, I've cheated them. If people are cheating business that way, then business and government turns around and cheats everyone that way, who wins?
TestesInSac wrote:Moreover, I see the system as being built from the ground up, rather than top-down. If the individual is prone to evading responsibility, then the institutions and businesses those individuals form will be prone to evading responsibility.
TestesInSac wrote:And to me, claiming that it's the guy that handed you a credit card who's responsible for your debt is preposterous.
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