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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby swampdog » Sun May 26, 2013 10:59 am

forrest gump - good onya, bro, it's nice to see someone learn and grow.
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Sun May 26, 2013 11:09 am

forrest Gump wrote:
Dr Helix wrote:
forrest Gump wrote:Get your burn on! Don’t be a sheeple or a spectator, Help create functional art! Help make a difference! Help the environment! We need volunteers, increase your karmic cache! We are building, and setting up some very unique housing/art then supplying it to artist on the playa. Lucky artist will have a very cool comfy foam hexa yurt set up and waiting for them to use during their time on the playa to keep them warm at night. Included is a solar powered freezer, swamp cooler( to keep them cool during the day), and air filters to help keep the dust out. Help us create art, support artist, help the environment and keep the playa from becoming a trailer park! Here is some of the skills we need.

Tech team-technical skills for building facebook page, blogs, tweets, and web pages.
Donation outreach team-monitor for Social media, Corporate donation liaison, donation manager, online fund raiser.
Physical labor team-transportation of housing, procurement of supplies, building housing, assembly team, disassembly team, Storage coordinator.
Artiest outreach team -burning man coordinator, artiest coordinator, event planner.

If you can help out in any way email me back at goodhonestreal@yahoo.com

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I am not trying to be funny, but I am not sure I understand what you are planning to do. Are you going to create housing for an artist/artists? If that's the case will they be just chill spots or does the artist/artists get to live there? And if they can live there, how will they be selected? And how does this "help the environment."? It might help if you could eleborate more on your goal. Good luck.


Sorry to take so long to answer you question. What I am trying to do is crate a place where artist can live. The selection will be a combination of financial need and how difficult it is to get to the burn. The smaller carbon foot print comes from the fact that we are using hexayurt with solar powered swamp coolers and not trailer with generator and air conditioning.

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Let me elaborate a little more on your question. The carbon foot print would also be lessened by the amount of gas used to get to the burn i.e. towing a trailer or driving an RV as opposed to transporting small stack of 8’ X 4’ sheets of foam. Then when the burn is finished we would store the foam some place near BRC until next year and lessen the carbon foot print even more. We would also require users to separate out recyclables, compost, and trash. We would ask for a deposit which would be returned if all trash was cleaned up before they leave and no major damage was done.

I would also like to say after reading through the post, after I calmed down, you were very patient and polite with your question and I was not trying to ignore you I just got caught up in the chaos. I have since been thoroughly schooled on proper etiquette while on the internet and been told by my friends “ hay you should change your user name to knucklehead hahaha”, ugh I hate those guys I mean I love those but I hate those guys.

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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Sun May 26, 2013 11:15 am

swampdog wrote:forrest gump - good onya, bro, it's nice to see someone learn and grow.

uh.. I am new to this what's a "onya".
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby swampdog » Sun May 26, 2013 12:06 pm

fakey aussie speak. equals "good on you" equals good for you.
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby knowmad » Sun May 26, 2013 3:43 pm

swampdog wrote:forrest gump - good onya, bro, it's nice to see someone learn and grow.

yeah, I am impressed. usually this ends like many (read nearly every) other "hey I've got an Idea" threads.
That being said I will extend a welcome again. Hi Forest! and a bit of unsolicited advice. Eplaya and burners are inquisitive and critical they are going to say some pretty blunt things; just the nature of the beast.

I'm starting to see what you are shooting at, "to Discourage unnecessary RV's and excessive traffic you wish to supply hexa yurts on playa for those involved in art projects" sounds legit.
I do have a few questions that may make you feel defensive, try not to be.
Deposits: Is that necessary? can your Idea float without it?
When you say "As many as possible" (in answering how many hexa yurts you plan to deliver.) can you be more specific?
what's your bottom line $ wise that it cost to deliver these Yurts? minus your own transportation and camp. because those are your responsibility. not something you can "Defray" on the community.
Who and where are these Artist being recruited and how do you plan on getting your Idea out there? are you actively approaching project leaders?

annyhoo, good luck.
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby Savannah » Sun May 26, 2013 5:03 pm

Who and where are these Artist being recruited and how do you plan on getting your Idea out there? are you actively approaching project leaders?


I wonder about this, too.

It occurs to me that any artist with a ticket is probably already trying to nail down his or her sleeping arrangements already. Only 3 months left.
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby Captain Goddammit » Sun May 26, 2013 8:25 pm

It's not really important, but...
I question the whole feel-good reduced carbon footprint biz. Is it less carbon footprint for you to transport the shelter than it would be for an artist to do it? The stuff is coming on someone's truck! Do you really think anyone who was coming in an air-conditioned RV to begin with will stay in a homeless shelter?
Burning Man isn't "green" at all. None of us need to be there. Not going to Burning Man would reduce carbon footprint lots more!
The other thing that seems off-kilter is the idea that an "artist" (aren't we all artists in some way?) who can buy a ticket for $400 to attend what's basically a big party, arrange their own transportation, etc. can't also bring shelter. That's got to be the smallest part of the expense. Hell I'm in it about $1000 just for fuel to get there and back.

Sorry, I'll fuck off and shut up now, I just always roll my eyes when anyone talks "green" about a completely unnecessary party in the desert.

But if I meet you on the playa I'll hand you a margarita and admire your art!
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Tue May 28, 2013 10:46 am

swampdog wrote:fakey aussie speak. equals "good on you" equals good for you.

Oh onya.. got it good onya to you.
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Tue May 28, 2013 12:05 pm

knowmad wrote:
swampdog wrote:forrest gump - good onya, bro, it's nice to see someone learn and grow.

yeah, I am impressed. usually this ends like many (read nearly every) other "hey I've got an Idea" threads.
That being said I will extend a welcome again. Hi Forest! and a bit of unsolicited advice. Eplaya and burners are inquisitive and critical they are going to say some pretty blunt things; just the nature of the beast.

I'm starting to see what you are shooting at, "to Discourage unnecessary RV's and excessive traffic you wish to supply hexa yurts on playa for those involved in art projects" sounds legit.
I do have a few questions that may make you feel defensive, try not to be.
Deposits: Is that necessary? can your Idea float without it?
When you say "As many as possible" (in answering how many hexa yurts you plan to deliver.) can you be more specific?
what's your bottom line $ wise that it cost to deliver these Yurts? minus your own transportation and camp. because those are your responsibility. not something you can "Defray" on the community.
Who and where are these Artist being recruited and how do you plan on getting your Idea out there? are you actively approaching project leaders?

annyhoo, good luck.


Thanks knowmad

I have been around burners long enough that I should know better. Hard and calloused on the outside warm and fuzzy on the inside. I actually have a fairly thick hide myself just have a really stubborn streak in me.

You will have to give me a minute on the cost I worked it out but need to dig up the info. I actually worked out the details last year and I need to find them. Apologies I should have been more prepared for your questions, I do remember being a little dismayed at the cost but then thinking I can reuse them for several years. My camp (and my art projects) is total separate from the housing project and of yes that is my responsibility. The number of hexayurts would depend on the amount of $ I can raise I would like to start out small and work out any kinks I did work out the a max number if I was to rent or purchase a large trailer, which is with the cost info I need to find. I am planning approaching BRAF once I get a team together. I know project leaders are fairly busy and approaching them before I have a team may be putting the cart before the horse. What I would like to do put together a invitation and send it to all the art projects leaders once I get a team together. The big reason I felt I needed to ask for a deposit was trash, last year at my camp mates left so much trash the last two of us to leave had our vehicles pack solid with garbage bags I am just envisioning that multiplied several time over. Then again I can always let them know damage or leaving garbage will have an adverse effect on future invitations.

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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Tue May 28, 2013 12:17 pm

Savannah wrote:
Who and where are these Artist being recruited and how do you plan on getting your Idea out there? are you actively approaching project leaders?


I wonder about this, too.

It occurs to me that any artist with a ticket is probably already trying to nail down his or her sleeping arrangements already. Only 3 months left.


Yes you right Savannah Probably not going to happen this year. Their is always next year! There's that stubborn streak again. If I can scrap together enough $ I may just put together a couple of hexayurts and sneak into an art camp put up a hexayurt with a big bow on it, random ninja gifting.

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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Tue May 28, 2013 1:33 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:It's not really important, but...
I question the whole feel-good reduced carbon footprint biz. Is it less carbon footprint for you to transport the shelter than it would be for an artist to do it? The stuff is coming on someone's truck! Do you really think anyone who was coming in an air-conditioned RV to begin with will stay in a homeless shelter?
Burning Man isn't "green" at all. None of us need to be there. Not going to Burning Man would reduce carbon footprint lots more!
The other thing that seems off-kilter is the idea that an "artist" (aren't we all artists in some way?) who can buy a ticket for $400 to attend what's basically a big party, arrange their own transportation, etc. can't also bring shelter. That's got to be the smallest part of the expense. Hell I'm in it about $1000 just for fuel to get there and back.

Sorry, I'll fuck off and shut up now, I just always roll my eyes when anyone talks "green" about a completely unnecessary party in the desert.

But if I meet you on the playa I'll hand you a margarita and admire your art!


Good question "Captain Goddammit", love the name. I have quite a few people coming from out the country in my camp they have one of two options bring, buy or borrow a tent, rent an RV, or if your really hot snuggle up to some purve with an RV(stop touching me!). So bring or borrowing a tent will Probable not lessen the carbon foot print, but I have sleep in a tent on the playa for 3 weeks...not for the faint of hart. Renting a RV... huge difference in how much gas is used. I could transport a large number of hexayurts for the same amount of gas of one RV and if I store the hexayurts from the previous year near by that would lessen the carbon foot print even more. I have not seen any homeless in hexayurts, but great idea! True a hexayurt is not as luxurious as an RV but put a swamp cooler inside and cut hole in the side for a furnace filter and you can sleep in the middle of the day dust free. Yes your right Burning man is not green. Well parts of it are very green, but as a whole not so green but I am trying to make it just a little more green. Probably fighting windmills but I have come to a point in my life that I except it as the nature of my being. Yes everyone who attends burning man is an artiest, even the frat boys and the obnoxious people playing music at 4 am, actually I think that was the frat boys. Some over come greater obstetrical than others just for the chance to present their art to you. What I am trying to do admittedly is not much in the larger scheme of things. But it is something, again with the fight windmills.

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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby BBadger » Tue May 28, 2013 4:03 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:Sorry, I'll fuck off and shut up now, I just always roll my eyes when anyone talks "green" about a completely unnecessary party in the desert.


Rolleyes indeed! Burning Man is practically an altar to consumption and waste in the name of entertainment and art. If anyone is truly concerned about being "green" they should simply not attend in the first place.
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby FIGJAM » Tue May 28, 2013 6:02 pm

But I SAVE my carbon foot print for burning man! 8)
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby trilobyte » Tue May 28, 2013 6:31 pm

forrest Gump wrote:…I have quite a few people coming from out the country in my camp they have one of two options...

Are you seeking volunteers to help build housing for Burning Man artists, or for your campmates?
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Wed May 29, 2013 11:32 am

trilobyte wrote:
forrest Gump wrote:…I have quite a few people coming from out the country in my camp they have one of two options...

Are you seeking volunteers to help build housing for Burning Man artists, or for your campmates?

Burning man artiest, well I guess we are all artiest, but no it is not for my campmates.
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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Wed May 29, 2013 11:38 am

FIGJAM wrote:But I SAVE my carbon foot print for burning man! 8)

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Re: Artsylum needs volunteers!

Postby forrest Gump » Wed May 29, 2013 12:06 pm

knowmad wrote:
swampdog wrote:forrest gump - good onya, bro, it's nice to see someone learn and grow.

yeah, I am impressed. usually this ends like many (read nearly every) other "hey I've got an Idea" threads.
That being said I will extend a welcome again. Hi Forest! and a bit of unsolicited advice. Eplaya and burners are inquisitive and critical they are going to say some pretty blunt things; just the nature of the beast.

I'm starting to see what you are shooting at, "to Discourage unnecessary RV's and excessive traffic you wish to supply hexa yurts on playa for those involved in art projects" sounds legit.
I do have a few questions that may make you feel defensive, try not to be.
Deposits: Is that necessary? can your Idea float without it?
When you say "As many as possible" (in answering how many hexa yurts you plan to deliver.) can you be more specific?
what's your bottom line $ wise that it cost to deliver these Yurts? minus your own transportation and camp. because those are your responsibility. not something you can "Defray" on the community.
Who and where are these Artist being recruited and how do you plan on getting your Idea out there? are you actively approaching project leaders?

annyhoo, good luck.


[Financials removed by moderator - please keep details to private messages and emails between interested parties] I also thought about what you said about mixing my camp with the housing project if I had a trailer fill with hexayurts I would probably attach it to a truck fill with my art and camp stuff and split the cost between the two lowering the carbon foot print and saving both the camp and the housing project $. So I just email the few volunteers I was able round up and let them know that this just is not going to happen this year. Just not enough time to do what I need to do. I am going to shelf everything until next year. Attached are some shameless plagiarizing of other peoples hexayurt ideas. See you all on the playa.

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