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The playa and amplified sound

Postby alexcaste » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:44 am

Hi all,

This is going to be the first year I am going to try to bring a little dj set up with me. I have read about the best practices for the speakers and the mixer. I know i need to understand that what goes there might not make it back. Does anyone know best practices for an amplifier?
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:23 pm

There is a decibel limit. And the dubstep quota is filled through 2014.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby BBadger » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:08 pm

Um, keep the amp cool so it doesn't fry? Bring enough power? Usually the amplifiers go hand-in-hand with the speakers as far as volume and locations where they can be played, so you better read the guidelines.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:22 pm

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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby trilobyte » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:43 pm

For a start, I'd suggest spending some time reading through the Q&A board, as well as familiarizing yourself with the section on sound in the Theme Camp Resource Guide (the same guidelines apply to all camps, whether you've got a theme or not and whether you're registered or not).
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby lemur » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:10 pm

NOBODY WANTS ANY MORE AMPLIFIED SOUND at the burn.


nobody wants another DJ.

the people who DO like that shitty DJ music dont want a new DJ either... of course, because they are a DJ, or their best friend is and WOW, they do WICKED SUNRISE SETS.

so really.. nobody wants any extra DJs.. not even DJs (they dont want the competition)

just bring yourself.

enjoy the hundreds of other DJs.....
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby EspressoDude » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:25 pm

One big NO - NO: start playing some bunch of loud music that nobody is dancing to, or enjoying; then walk away from your system for an hour or two.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:36 pm

EspressoDude wrote:One big NO - NO: start playing some bunch of loud music that nobody is dancing to, or enjoying; then walk away from your system for an hour or two.

Actually, I like it when they do that. It's so easy to stumble and spill a beer into the electronics.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby ygmir » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:39 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
EspressoDude wrote:One big NO - NO: start playing some bunch of loud music that nobody is dancing to, or enjoying; then walk away from your system for an hour or two.

Actually, I like it when they do that. It's so easy to stumble and spill a beer into the electronics.

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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:44 pm

ygmir wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
EspressoDude wrote:One big NO - NO: start playing some bunch of loud music that nobody is dancing to, or enjoying; then walk away from your system for an hour or two.

Actually, I like it when they do that. It's so easy to stumble and spill a beer into the electronics.

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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby ygmir » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:48 pm

:roll: :roll: :roll: it's only cause I care........
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby DrYes » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:58 pm

alexcaste wrote:Hi all,

This is going to be the first year I am going to try to bring a little dj set up with me. I have read about the best practices for the speakers and the mixer. I know i need to understand that what goes there might not make it back. Does anyone know best practices for an amplifier?


Don't listen to the haters, though as I'm don't DJ I have no idea what best practices are.

Bring your equipment, just be prepared for the fact that there really are many many DJs out there, and most of them are playing to nearly empty crowds. There is very much a winner-takes-all phenomenon going on, with the big sound camps and art cars drawing the overwhelming majority of people looking to dance in the desert.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby lemur » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:10 pm

LISTEN TO THE HATERS.

they tell people to not do this every year

and yet: theres always some schmuck banging out huge beats from his empty dome to nobody but his drunk hungover friends in camp.


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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:15 pm

lemur wrote:LISTEN TO THE HATERS.




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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby CornMan » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:16 pm

DrYes wrote:
alexcaste wrote:Hi all,

This is going to be the first year I am going to try to bring a little dj set up with me. I have read about the best practices for the speakers and the mixer. I know i need to understand that what goes there might not make it back. Does anyone know best practices for an amplifier?


Don't listen to the haters, though as I'm don't DJ I have no idea what best practices are.

Bring your equipment, just be prepared for the fact that there really are many many DJs out there, and most of them are playing to nearly empty crowds. There is very much a winner-takes-all phenomenon going on, with the big sound camps and art cars drawing the overwhelming majority of people looking to dance in the desert.


I think a lot of people just want to be a part of the bigger spectacle and feel the louder beats. If you had Skrillex on stage jumping and waving his arms around but a very minor local DJ controlling the music behind the scenes, very few people in the huge crowd would know the difference.

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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby gaminwench » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:17 pm

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ugly, angry music.
They'd turn on the system, then drive away in the car.
Hours later they'd return, park the car aiming into the neighbors' art installation,
run awful sound, to no one.
They were never in camp,
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(except when neighbors unplugged the system)

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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:26 pm

one year WAAAAAY back i spent an entire afternoon spinning 78's



keep in mind, most of them broke, BUT......

it was different.

people actually came and listened.

it was easier back then not to get drowned out by the noise noise noise.

HOWEVER...THINGS HAVE CHANGED....

last year i think the LSC (large sound camp) I was with was pumping out close to 150k of pure raw juice.

enough to remove gallstones at 100 yards....

now.....what kinda set up are you gonna bring? a Full Funktion 1? some bass maxx low ends?

i didnt think so.



dont be that guy that we've all described....cranking drub-step or shlip hop or whatever on a shitty muddy system, hoping attract the chicks with your unique and raw selection of bitchin' tunes, all the while in a "Residential" neighborhood because its your first year, and you'll be camped in the "suburbs" somewhere, without placement, a little island of you and your noise.

instead, bring you....you and your mixes on digital media if you're so inclined, who knows, if you are Gods Gift to the Decks, maybe someone will let you play their rig.

trust us.

listen to the haters...

we do it because we love you.

now get the fuck off of my lawn, pick up that shit, and turn that crap down....







and get me a drink.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby VultureChow » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:45 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:instead, bring you....you and your mixes on digital media if you're so inclined, who knows, if you are Gods Gift to the Decks, maybe someone will let you play their rig.



You know, well curated playlist with a decent portable sound could be an amazing gift. Walk up to a small gathering without music. Ask if they would like some music and then be able to meet their request. 80's playlist, russian military marches, samba, whatever they ask for. You only need a few songs for each genre.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:58 pm

VultureChow wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:instead, bring you....you and your mixes on digital media if you're so inclined, who knows, if you are Gods Gift to the Decks, maybe someone will let you play their rig.



You know, well curated playlist with a decent portable sound could be an amazing gift. Walk up to a small gathering without music. Ask if they would like some music and then be able to meet their request. 80's playlist, russian military marches, samba, [b]whatever they ask for[/b]. You only need a few songs for each genre.

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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby 171/348 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:09 pm

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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby Ugly Dougly » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:17 pm

I guess you can get a lot of gigs if you tell people you were a DJ at Burning Man.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby some seeing eye » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:42 pm

To the OP -
Buy a sound level meter and learn what it means. Unless you are trying to push a lot of bass, you don't need much amp power just to provide music for your dome/ carport/ camp. Fanless and keeping it out of the sun is basic.

People at BM like to talk to one another, therefore sound levels below say 90dB are just fine.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby CornMan » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:50 pm

VultureChow wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:instead, bring you....you and your mixes on digital media if you're so inclined, who knows, if you are Gods Gift to the Decks, maybe someone will let you play their rig.



You know, well curated playlist with a decent portable sound could be an amazing gift. Walk up to a small gathering without music. Ask if they would like some music and then be able to meet their request. 80's playlist, russian military marches, samba, whatever they ask for. You only need a few songs for each genre.


In 2011, an adjacent camp on Initiation Street who brought a sound system agreed to DJ our block party in the street. It was perfect.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby maladroit » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:02 pm

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Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:07 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:one year WAAAAAY back i spent an entire afternoon spinning 78's

Sorry I missed this...
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby Captain Goddammit » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:25 pm

You probably also missed the year I played nothing but Dean Martin from my boat... Unjonharly was cuttin' a rug with a lady aboard showing us all how it's done!
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby CornMan » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:32 pm

Last year, some people in a neighboring camp were playing Frank Sinatra loudly for hours and hours into the early morning. People were getting pissed off. Not angry enough to call the rangers or anything, but it kept many people sitting up in their tents not able to sleep and negatively affected the next day.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby tattoogoddess » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:06 pm

Mines not really amplified,but it can be a little loud.
This is what we are working with-




General
Product Type 5.1-channel PC multimedia speaker system - wired
Dimensions (WxDxH) / Weight Details Satellite speaker : 2.5 in x 3 in x 8 in Subwoofer : 6 in x 9.3 in x 9 in

Speaker System
System Components 5 speakers, subwoofer
Nominal Output Power (Total) 70 Watt
Max (RMS) Output Power (Total) 140 Watt
Response Bandwidth 40 - 20000 Hz
Signal-To-Noise Ratio 96 dB
Audio Amplifier
Speaker System Details
Speakers Included 4 x satellite speaker - 7.4 Watt - wired 1 x center channel speaker - 15.5 Watt - wired 1 x subwoofer - 25 Watt - wired
Driver Details Satellite speaker : 2 x high/midrange driver - 2" - Frequency Directed Dual Driver (FDD2)
Driver Details (2nd speaker) Subwoofer : 1 x subwoofer driver - 5.25"
Driver Details (3rd speaker) Center channel speaker : 2 x high/midrange driver - 2"


No idea what this means.

But that, and we are buying one or two rockit 3.0's and connecting those to two 4 foot totes. For more sound/volume.

I have playlist for morning/afternoon/night. No blairing metal in the mornings or dubstep... Shit like that. Save it for when people are awake.

If you have spotify, here is my nights and afternoon list. Is this ok? Will people get mad?

http://open.spotify.com/user/128799209/ ... KiUcah6x2C. Afternoon/nights
http://open.spotify.com/user/128799209/ ... rc82xPckGy. Chill nights down time


And yes that is Steve Martin the comedians band. They are pretty rad if you like folk banjo. Anyone got some good Cajun /zidqgo groups? Sorry thread drift.
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby Captain Goddammit » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:13 am

How about some Scottish murder ballads?
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Re: The playa and amplified sound

Postby tattoogoddess » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:34 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:How about some Scottish murder ballads?
:)


:shock: capt say wahh?
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