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Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby 48_love » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:37 pm

So, instead of asking a question, I will share the plan and then perhaps if there is feedback it can subsequently be shared throughout the thread.

At the moment, it appears that my wife will have to submit payroll for one of her clients during the burn. Best case scenario, we find someone to do this for her while she is out of the office, but life is a bitch, and we have to plan for all scenarios.

The plan:

- Camp somewhat out of the way (outer rings), so a midweek in-and-out trip doesn't find require driving through too much mayhem (?)
- Wednesday AM, pay $20 to leave event and get "return chit" from gate
- Drive to Fernley and check into a hotel with wireless
- Execute payroll, shower, sleep in a bed
- Thrusday AM, drive back to BRC
- Show stub and chit, drive back to camp
- Continue burning

Seems doable, no? Is there a glaring detail that we're missing which will lead to certain misery even jeopardize survival? Cuz, that adds to the already known dangers and excitement, lol.

We're heeding the warnings to not rely on playa connectivity
The Gerlach/Empire shuttle was a thought, but the availability of connectivity isn't readily apparent
We're working on someone to submit this on her behalf, so we'll be working against that plan up until it's time to leave
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby Rice » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:50 pm

48_love wrote:So, instead of asking a question, I will share the plan and then perhaps if there is feedback it can subsequently be shared throughout the thread.

At the moment, it appears that my wife will have to submit payroll for one of her clients during the burn. Best case scenario, we find someone to do this for her while she is out of the office, but life is a bitch, and we have to plan for all scenarios.

The plan:

- Camp somewhat out of the way (outer rings), so a midweek in-and-out trip doesn't find require driving through too much mayhem (?)
- Wednesday AM, pay $20 to leave event and get "return chit" from gate
- Drive to Fernley and check into a hotel with wireless
- Execute payroll, shower, sleep in a bed
- Thrusday AM, drive back to BRC
- Show stub and chit, drive back to camp
- Continue burning

Seems doable, no? Is there a glaring detail that we're missing which will lead to certain misery even jeopardize survival? Cuz, that adds to the already known dangers and excitement, lol.

We're heeding the warnings to not rely on playa connectivity
The Gerlach/Empire shuttle was a thought, but the availability of connectivity isn't readily apparent
We're working on someone to submit this on her behalf, so we'll be working against that plan up until it's time to leave

The $20 fee for the pass is per/person (http://www.burningman.com/on_the_playa/ ... /gate.html)
In-and-Out Passes

In-and-out passes are available at the gate for $20 per person. You must have your pass, and your ticket stub, to return to the event. If you need to leave to make a phone call or pick up some emergency sundries, we encourage you to use our Empire-Gerlach bus service.


Otherwise, your plan sounds: Like a Plan... ;)

As usual, it is difficult to predict traffic levels, re-entry into BRC could take a while (or be quick).

I checked and there does not seem to be a limit on the time the pass(es) are valid for, perhaps you should make sure it will be valid for the time you need...

You are correct to not rely on (or expect) on-playa internet to work. It will probably work when you don't need it but It is quite possible (ok probable) that it will fail either when you need it or while you are using it.

Watch the traffic on gate road and especially on the highway!! There is almost constant traffic going both to and from BRC... and it will be constant up to Fernley.

Make sure you have both your ticket stubs and in-out passes stored in a safe spot. (if you lose either, you are screwed!!)

Unless I am missing some crucial detail... Good Luck!!
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby 48_love » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:58 pm

Thanks, Rice!

I am trying to stay on-Playa while she runs her errand to Fernley ... that'll be touch and go right up until the day! As a married couple, our venn diagram of radical self reliance indicates that if I must join her on the trip it is keeping with the 10 Principles! :)

Thanks again for the feedback!
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby maladroit » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:27 pm

If the client is small enough to outsource payroll and she has enough time to handle several clients, perhaps the client would be open to moving payroll forward or back a few days? Perhaps get everything set up ahead of time and just have someone pass out the checks on the appropriate day.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby Bounce530 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:22 pm

When leaving the city and if you want to get back in, each of you will need to pay $20.00, then you'll get a wristband put on your right wrist. You will be able to return into the city any time the gate is still open (I think they close the incoming gate Saturday night?)
Do not cut off your wristband until you're back in the city. The wristband must still be attached to your wrist.

And bring back mixers and fresh fruit/vegi's.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby some seeing eye » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:07 pm

You are correct that connectivity is undependable on the playa. The org shoots in an Internet big pipe by microwave from Gerlach. It is prioritized for medical, BMIR, playacam and org communications. But people still get on.

Best bet a satellite phone with data service. Hope the web site you access is light on content.

I would be surprised if the library, the Burningman Office and Bruno's hotel-casino didn't have WiFi right in Gerlach. Easy to verify inbound.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby ygmir » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:55 am

not knowing who, but I do know there are several camps, and individuals that have and use good quality interwebz signal out there, maybe by satellite? Just a thought maybe you can do a little asking around now, and see if you can find it.

or.

if you're sort of looking forward to a day in defaultia in the middle. Do it.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby tamarakay » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:16 am

Bounce530 wrote:

And bring back mixers and fresh fruit/vegi's.


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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby lucky420 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:55 am

And a pizza :mrgreen:
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby Dr. Pyro » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:47 am

And don't forget a large bag of In 'N Out burgers (Double Double, Animal Style).
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby trilobyte » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:08 am

What Bounce said. If leaving the playa is a must, make the trip count. Stop at least once for an indian taco. Hit a market and grab some freshies for campmates and neighbors, maybe even ice cream (if you've got a small cooler to haul it back in). Check within your camp or with neighbors you've connected with to see if someone needs a mid-week fuel run, sometimes even a single gas can can make a huge difference to a camp.

That said, here's hoping she's able to make other arrangements and you don't have to leave the playa.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby AntiM » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:54 am

We had a camp mate leave the playa for a family emergency. MyLarry has left the playa to pick someone up from the train station. It was relatively hassle free. Just arrange your camp so the vehicle isn't blocked in, and make sure the parking place is set up so no one uses it as a camp site or parks their car there.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby 48_love » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:57 am

Haha, classic ... I'm reluctant to contribute to what I imagine is an in-and-out hassle at gate, so I am surprised to see support for the notion of heading off-playa midweek.

But yeah, the thought of a default world break and resupply does have its comfort appeal. And potential for practical applications and support that I hadn't considered.

Thanks for the replies. They do provide several new pathways to explore for solving this question.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby 48_love » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:59 am

AntiM wrote: It was relatively hassle free.


Interesting, I had read that the Org sort of discourages it. I suppose if it became a trend for people to take "breaks in town", maybe it would get crazy. That was my thought, at least.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby Rice » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:22 am

48_love wrote:
AntiM wrote: It was relatively hassle free.


Interesting, I had read that the Org sort of discourages it. I suppose if it became a trend for people to take "breaks in town", maybe it would get crazy. That was my thought, at least.

The BM Org encourages everyone to bring everything they need in 1 trip, park & stay parked all week. Having said that, they have a process that will allow you to leave BRC & return if you like.

Leaving BRC is pretty simple. Drive (the speed limit) to the gate, show your ticket stub & pay (cash) for your in/out pass, and then drive out to the highway - off to wherever you have to go.

Returning to BRC involves getting back into the line before gate (there may or may not be a wait, depends on the volume of people), driving up to the gate, showing your in/out pass & ticket stub, getting searched again & then driving back to your camp spot (at the speed limit ;) )...

I am usually on playa early & have to make a supply run every 7 days or so, have done this a couple times every year....
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby maladroit » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:24 am

48_love wrote:Haha, classic ... I'm reluctant to contribute to what I imagine is an in-and-out hassle at gate, so I am surprised to see support for the notion of heading off-playa midweek.


It's because you have a fairly good reason, and you plan to come back.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby illy dilly » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:40 am

some seeing eye wrote:I would be surprised if the library, the Burningman Office and Bruno's hotel-casino didn't have WiFi right in Gerlach. Easy to verify inbound.

I agree.
Personally I'd shoot for an 8-10 hour trip rather than an over night trip. How long does her Payroll task take?
Someone in Gerlach has got to have some Wifi you can use for a few hours.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby Savannah » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:53 am

48_love wrote:
AntiM wrote: It was relatively hassle free.


Interesting, I had read that the Org sort of discourages it. I suppose if it became a trend for people to take "breaks in town", maybe it would get crazy. That was my thought, at least.


It's not encouraged, but they know people have many reasons to leave temporarily that don't involve whims. You are remembering correctly that people are actively discouraged from overtaxing Gerlach en masse--they do not have the resources or space for a large quantity of people.

It takes just enough time and effort to leave and come back that in-&-out is usually work-related, a family emergency or health-related, so I don't think it's been too much of an issue.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby trilobyte » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:59 pm

It's a self-discouraging process. Burning Man is bright and shiny and full of awesome, exiting to a less shiny awesome place where there aren't any real assurances of availability on goods/services until you drive a great distance is a deterrent. From most camps to paved road in zero traffic and perfect weather conditions is at least a half an hour, slipping out during the event means at least an hour just to get to paved road. Coming back in will be considerably more painful, and can vary greatly depending on how crazy the line is.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby schmoozeinc » Mon May 27, 2013 1:57 pm

brunos has wifi for customers. If you can do it the night before leave the playa around 10p head to gerlach and have a drink while your online and head back. the line is short coming back later in the evening. If not you can come down to or place in empire and can log on to our wifi. were a 1/4 north of the empire store @ the 69 milemarker on 447. last year i made a daily trips to walmart form 2.00&Esplanade. left at 9p was back by 2-2.3a. have your papers tho. of the seven times i left i got puled over EVERY time. on one trip i got curbed by blm twice, pershing county sherrif as soon as i hit 34 pavement. once in nixon by nav state troopers coming back and finally by washoe co sherrif just coming out of gerlach.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby 48_love » Tue May 28, 2013 10:00 am

^ awesome info, thanks ... i really appreciate it!
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby Chowski » Tue May 28, 2013 10:23 am

Something you might want to consider: when I camp alone, my vehicle acts as a significant part of my infrastructure as both storage and, more importantly, wind block. If my car were to drive away from my camp for a day mid-week, I'd be left exposed to all kinds of potential badness. You should think about how you are going to erect your camp so that it does not blow away in the night while your wife is sleeping peacefully and dust-free in town.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby 48_love » Tue May 28, 2013 11:16 am

^ that crossed my mind. it seems the options for a quicker, compact mission are looking viable. which is good ... because there will be shiny things to gaze upon and interact with!

i've been getting nervous thinking about how my camp will stand up to the wind just when we're out and about on the playa.

it's like you hope for a certain amount of calmness AND violence when setting up camp so you can adapt as needed first thing.

it's going to be a week of adapting, i just know it. lol
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby LittleJack » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:28 pm

Reno Air. Leave your car and camp in place, bicycle out to the airport, fly to Reno and use the WiFi in the Reno airport. Catch the next flight back, be back on playa in a few hours. Minimal disruption to your burn, no horrible waiting in line to get back in, and you get both an adventure and an aerial view of BRC!
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby dragonpilot » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:58 pm

LittleJack wrote:Reno Air. Leave your car and camp in place, bicycle out to the airport, fly to Reno and use the WiFi in the Reno airport. Catch the next flight back, be back on playa in a few hours. Minimal disruption to your burn, no horrible waiting in line to get back in, and you get both an adventure and an aerial view of BRC!


One of my camp mates got called away on emergency business matter. He arranged a flight on Reno Air to take him to the Reno Airport. IIRC it was $600 one-way...his company paid the bill so no skin off his back...you might not have as much skin.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby LittleJack » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:45 pm

I was just looking over the BM Resource Guide that was sent out in the last JRS: http://burningman.com/preparation/resou ... s2013.html

Under the Services area are 3 airlines that do playa flights. If none of those suit your needs, you can always figure out your budget (and how much time away from the playa is worth to you), then go find where the Black Rock pilots hang out, as I'd be very surprised if they didn't have a list, group, or other online presence, and ask if you can get a round trip ride for whatever budget you've figured out this is worth to you.

On the other hand, if you just need Internet access, someone above mentioned that it would be MUCH faster, cheaper, easier, and convenient to just rent a satellite phone with Internet access. And what do you know, there's a place on the Resource Guide that rents and sells those too!

As much as I decry commodification, I have to say that I find the Resource Guide damned handy.
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Re: Default World Business Trip During Burning Man

Postby dragonpilot » Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:55 pm

My bad...now I recall it was Advantage Air my friend used...about $400 one-way...better, but still...
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