Best shelter for first-timer?

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Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby regentswift » Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:56 pm

Hey guys-

I'm excited about my first burn, and want to make sure I'm properly equipped.

I'm flying in from St. Louis, so I don't have a ton of space... only what I can ship and pick up in town or bring with me. What recommendations do you guys have for comfortable and adequate shelter? I have a tent that I usually take camping (in Missouri), but I have a feeling that it won't be quite suitable for the playa.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:02 pm

What recommendations do you guys have for comfortable and adequate shelter?



book a room at the Grand Sierra.


stay there all week.


seriously.


while you're there, read the survival guide so you'll be prepared for next year.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby regentswift » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:05 pm

Roberto Dobbisano wrote:
What recommendations do you guys have for comfortable and adequate shelter?



book a room at the Grand Sierra.


stay there all week.


seriously.


while you're there, read the survival guide so you'll be prepared for next year.


Yeah, I read it. Didn't answer my question, but thanks.

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:09 pm

well i dont know, there's like 43 other threads on this topic, have you tried those?
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Elorrum » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:14 pm

Look at the links in the burning man site, AEZ had information I FOUND helpful. A shape that either spills some wind, has a low profile, or can be tied and staked at many many points is good. Unless it is directly noon, there will be a side of your car where you can find shade to sit in.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby VultureChow » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:18 pm

Welcome to eplaya.

We try to encourage self sufficiency here, so you would probably be better served by reading some of the threads and then doing some research and then asking a more specific question.

For example: Does anyone have experience with this specific type of tent? Should I bring one big tent or two small tents and use one for storage?

There are everything from tiny backpacker tents to geodesic domes out there. I personally use a Kodiak canvas tent and fly in from the east coast. My tent flies, but I ship a number of other things.

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Boijoy » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:38 pm

How are you getting to the playa? Help us help you. :)
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby lemur » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:41 pm

youre totally fucked

youre gonna be one of those hippies who sleeps in the center camp cafe because they brought a wal-mart special tent that the wind exploded on the first day.


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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby regentswift » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:30 pm

Boijoy wrote:How are you getting to the playa? Help us help you. :)


I'm flying into Reno on Friday night, and renting a car.

I've been reading about the success of dome shelters and the hexayurts. Anyone had any success with travelling with those?

Obviously, I don't want to show up with the wrong equipment, which is why I'm posting here. I tried to navigate the forums, but it's kind of overwhelming. :?

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Boijoy » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:10 pm

I feel like Domes or hexas might be a bid "advanced" for you. Most people swear by the "monkey hut" w/ a tent inside. there are instructions here somewher. but Im sure you come across the BM topic if you google it. you should have plenty of space in your rental car. keep reading friend. you have plenty of time.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby trilobyte » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:14 pm

The overwhelming part is that there is no single correct answer - there are many.

Flying in does complicate things, though if you plan things out you could either a) ship materials in/out (hotels can often help with that), or recycle the oversized materials you can't affordably take home with you (pvc pipes, conduit, insulation panels for yurts, etc). There are a few places that can accommodate that in Reno (the regional Save Mart grocery chain springs to mind, but more will be posted in a local resource guide in the weeks before the event).

While I'm partial to EMT conduit frame structures myself (I like the modular design and great coverage for larger areas), they're not ideal for traveling great distance or smaller use. I'd recommend taking a look at either a hexayurt or monkey hut (and narrowing your thread-browsing to just those types of structures). Figure out your design and materials needs, and then pick up the bulky items in Reno once you arrive and you can hit the ground running. If you're a bit more adventurous and good with ropes, do some digging for tensegrity structures. They use a minimal number of vertical beams (easy-to-purchase lumber you can get at any lumber yard/big box hardware store) and then rope to create the framework that you'd secure tarp or shade cloth to.

Don't get me wrong, domes are fun - but they're also expensive, bulky, and can be fairly complicated. I'd suggest bringing something a little easier to manage this year, and once you've got your camp set up go find someone who's still working on getting their dome set up and offer to lend a hand. That'll give you the chance to ask questions, gain some experience, and see for yourself if that's something you want to get into at some point down the road.

Take a look at the options, and see what you think might be fun to try. Good luck with whatever you decide!
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby BBadger » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:17 pm

HOLY SHIT! ANOTHER FUCKING FIRST TIMER SHELTER POST!!!!

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Elorrum » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:18 pm

it can be this simple.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby VultureChow » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:23 pm

BBadger wrote:HOLY SHIT! ANOTHER FUCKING FIRST TIMER SHELTER POST!!!!

Every fucking year it's a different plague.


I think we're due for antoher "lifestyle camp" outbreak. Those are fun.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby lemur » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:43 pm

you want to camp like this..

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only bring this stuff (it will fit on the plane and you wont need to get anything but food and water in reno):

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(all the camping shit you need tent/sleeping pad/sleeping bag/blanket/rug/extra shoes/etc.. no, you dont need rebar.. get something like an MSR GROUNDHOG )

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(this shit was in the softsided cooler in the image above.. the survival guide covers lots of this shit)

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Captain Goddammit » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:54 pm

God damn... I thought I was a crusty old timer 'cuz I remember when the man was on hay bales... lighten up you guys, you didn't know nuthin' about Burning Man not that long ago!
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby lemur » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:00 pm

YER HARSHING MY BURN OLD TIMER
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby VultureChow » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:01 pm

regentswift wrote:
Boijoy wrote:How are you getting to the playa? Help us help you. :)


I'm flying into Reno on Friday night, and renting a car.

I've been reading about the success of dome shelters and the hexayurts. Anyone had any success with travelling with those?

Obviously, I don't want to show up with the wrong equipment, which is why I'm posting here. I tried to navigate the forums, but it's kind of overwhelming. :?


I'm also a flyer and last year was my first year.

I love my tent but it is massive and heavy. But it's also solid as a fuckin rock. It barely flexes in the wind.

In terms of shade, you might check out the thread a little bit below for the solo first timer also flying in. I did not bring my own shade last year. This year I'm considering a small monkey hut or modified Figjam structure. But I ship a bunch of stuff.

You might consider a camp or village. Flying out with good shade is tough. You might not be able to sleep in your tent till noon, but a camp would give you a shady place to chill in the afternoon.

Check in with your regional list. look for a regional to attend and potentially hook up with a camp.

Good luck.

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby BBadger » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:08 pm

There's nothing "old timer" about expecting people to do a little searching and researching before posting another inane, redundant question. Quite frankly, if they can't even get past that stage they should've even attend.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Captain Goddammit » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:20 pm

Yeah I suppose you're right. I had been going to BM years before we had this message board, so I thought I was never a clueless newbie because of that - but come to think of it, my first year I brought everyfuckingthing I, and everyone around me, needed AND started a bike-repair camp (Johnny & the Playa Cruizers) that was the major bike shop at 9:00 for about 5 years. I even had enough spare fuel to supply the needy Ranger's gas golf carts when they were running out. I'm so burnier than most of these fuckers!
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby maladroit » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:28 pm

Yes...embrace the snark...feels good, doesn't it? Soon you will turn.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby VultureChow » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:32 pm

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby BBadger » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:35 pm

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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

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Serves me right. Hotlinked and left the office right after I hit submit.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:39 pm

Cheeze-It's are mandatory.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Ugly Dougly » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:56 pm

lemur wrote:... those hippies who sleeps in the center camp ...

Shhhh, you're giving it away!

Regent, you need to build a three frequency dome out of used beer cans if you want to be accepted.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby TT120 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:11 pm

I love Cheeze-Its. :P
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby clocksnmirrors » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:12 pm

cheeze-its are good

but triscuits and wheat thins are where it's really at
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby Captain Goddammit » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:21 pm

Don't forget one of nature's perfect foods - EZ Cheese!
It comes in a dust-proof container, it requires no refrigeration, and it's yummy on everything! Shut up Mr. Clocks and Mirrors, I was talkin' about crackers... oh wait, that can be twisted also... never mind.
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Re: Best shelter for first-timer?

Postby TT120 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:35 pm

Elorrum wrote:it can be this simple.
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This is excellent! Small and efficient.

You hook up a Figjam cooler up to this thing and you got the perfect camp.
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