Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Elorrum » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:10 pm

Martiansky,
The derailleur is cheap, plastic mainly. I couldn't set the high and low points for it with any certainty since the set screws were just going through a plastic part. It's easy to throw the chain if I don't shift carefully. A decent replacement would solve that. I think your idea of a front chain ring set would be great (and I might steal it) A granny gear teeny one in front would be a nice option if pulling a trailer or something. The drum brake is squeaky on the playa... very squeaky, but it works.
Spooky tooth cycles has another kit option I was looking at, but the two chains at the back instead of the chain from the pedals driving the axle directly was confusing to me. http://www.spookytoothcycles.com/compon ... gory_id=74
I don't put miles on this trike, it's not put together except for one week on the playa, then I take it apart to put it in my car to my garage...etc.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:19 pm

Ellorum, I sent an email to SpookyTooth and the reply they sent back,
They are no longer offering the trike conversion kits at this time.
Ahem....
The link they sent me to http://www.motorbicycling.com seems to be for all things related to bicycle motors.
Im just looking for a trike kit, with wheels. Not having much luck. :(
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby unjonharley » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:38 pm

Martiansky wrote:Ellorum, I sent an email to SpookyTooth and the reply they sent back,
They are no longer offering the trike conversion kits at this time.
Ahem....
The link they sent me to http://www.motorbicycling.com seems to be for all things related to bicycle motors.
Im just looking for a trike kit, with wheels. Not having much luck. :(


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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:34 pm

Unjon, I will give that a try thanks.

Ellorum, is the drum brake part on your trike kit removable?
I was thinking that I could get one of the conversion kits, make sure it works on the bike I want to use and then bring the parts to make said bike(which should be just the rear wheel and chain Im thinking) with just in case the trike isnt working out there.
Sound feasable enough?
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:31 pm

Elorrum wrote:Image
I didn't bring a rack 2011, took the whole thing apart and put it inside the car. I'll try the rack this year, and see how I can reduce the parts I need to break it down to. Best case scenario is it fits intact, but I have a feeling it's just too wide.
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Ellorum I just saw this picture of your trike! I dont know how I missed it before.
Its SUPER COOL LOOKING!
I love the frame and fork you used. I bet those alone were a pretty penny. Did you get them on the same site as the trike conversion kit?
And are the tires...painted or already that color?
I put purple tires on my playa bike in '05 and after about 5 minutes of riding they weren't purple anymore, they were playa coated!
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Elliot » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:12 pm

Elorrum wrote:The derailleur is cheap, plastic mainly. A decent replacement would solve that.

I have a pile of surplus derailers. Want me to ship you a few? Send your address by PM.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:39 am

Well dang my luck!
I was going to order a trike conversion kit today and now they have none in stock!
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby gyre » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:04 am

Foo

Keep looking.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:13 am

:(
I called the company and they arent getting anymore in stock either!
My fault for waiting so long.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby gyre » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:17 am

Somebody will have one, even if it's an individual.

Keep looking.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby FIGJAM » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:42 am

Kamikaze option, put the battery in front! :twisted:

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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:08 am

Looks great Figjam! Nice job!
Does the extra weight up front make turning difficult?
How long does the battery last before you recharge it?

I scored a 20" fat tire wheel set and a Giant Dub frame and fork off the net the other day.
Unfortunately the back wheel has a coaster brake set up so I'm going to try an old skool trick we used to do.
You diasassembe the back hub and remove the internal brake shoes, then add a washer, a spring and a nother washer(O@O)(can get at hardware store) to hold the tension inside and then reassemble the hub. It makes it so you can pedal backwards and the brake wont apply.
The only difference is I know it will work on Bendix coaster brakes but the wheel I have has a Falcon brand coaster brake set up that Ive never worked with before.
Still working on find a trike kit for the back but now I've got a frame and fork to build off.
I did pick up a little wire feed welder so maybe a will try to make my own bolt on conversion kit instead.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Elorrum » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:00 am

Martiansky wrote: the tires...painted or already that color?
I put purple tires on my playa bike in '05 and after about 5 minutes of riding they weren't purple anymore, they were playa coated!

The tires are made by a company called sweekskinZ, they are colored and reflective. I found them online at a wallmart kind of store out of the midwest. They make or made many tread styles and sizes, and colors... getting the size and tread and style I wanted was tricky. These weren't my first choice of the many colors they offer, and it would have been nice if they matched. 2011 was the only year I could ride more than 19 yards and still notice that the tires had a color.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby maryanimal » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:19 am

I'm thinking about bringing a tricycle to the playa. Having it motorized would be sweet. I've been searching for one for a while now.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Elliot » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:55 pm

Martiansky wrote:I scored a 20" fat tire wheel set and a Giant Dub frame and fork off the net the other day.
Unfortunately the back wheel has a coaster brake...

What do you seek to accomplish here? Could you not simply use a derailer wheel? They do exist in the 20" size -- I'm looking at one right here. You'd get five gears in the bargain.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:03 pm

Elliot wrote:
Martiansky wrote:I scored a 20" fat tire wheel set and a Giant Dub frame and fork off the net the other day.
Unfortunately the back wheel has a coaster brake...

What do you seek to accomplish here? Could you not simply use a derailer wheel? They do exist in the 20" size -- I'm looking at one right here. You'd get five gears in the bargain.


Ok Elliot ya "sold" me! I've actually been wanting more then a single speed bike/trike.
I just don't know if the wider tires will fit a different rim then what its already on. The rim its on now just looks like a normal size rim to me.
I need to take one of the tires (20"x3.0") off and try it on a different rim to see if it'll fit.
The real dilemma is.....a regular wheel wont fit onto a trike conversion kit because its not hollow hubbed.
Thats why I may have to come up with my own design (with borrowed ideas from Instructables and a low-rider conversion kit) that uses regular hubbed wheels on it .
Or do perhaps my good Sir...you have another suggestion? :D
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:07 pm

Ellorum, thanks for the info!
Sheesh.....when did the price of BIKE tires jump to almost as high as a CAR tire??!!
It's outrageous!
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby clocksnmirrors » Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:24 pm

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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Elorrum » Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:16 pm

Elorrum wrote:The tires are made by a company called sweekskinZ,

typo: should be sweetskins
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:44 pm

Gyre, I kept looking like you said and finally found a kit from the same company that I was originally going to order one from for a LOT less because its missing the gear in the back which I can order for alot cheaper then the money I saved! :D

Now a trip to my storage unit to dig for handlebars, pedals, tires and misc parts and then start assembly!

Pics to follow later........
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby FIGJAM » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:52 am

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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby unjonharley » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:59 am

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Postby Shoeshine » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:56 pm

Found a schwinn meridian for sale cheap.

But I notice that only one of the rear wheels is driven by the pedals and of course this is a single speed.

Do you fine folk think this is playa worthy?

Do most trikes have two (rear) wheel drive?

Am I going to hate myself for not having a lower gear when I hit the inevitable dune?

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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby unjonharley » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:39 am

All trikes have one wheel drive.. When you turn one wheel has to slow.. If both wheels drove the slow wheel would bind/break.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Shoeshine » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:09 am

Ahhh, OK didn't think that through, but makes sense.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:46 pm

And you dont need multiple gears, either.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby TinkerMom » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:01 pm

Mine is a single gear.

I changed the sprockets around until I found the one I felt comfortable with.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Shoeshine » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:53 am

Schweet.

I think this meridian will do the trick. As I said earlier I am building a crawler/hauler. (plenty of regular bikes around camp if I really decide I need to be anywhere fast, though I honestly think I am over that @ BM).

Good point on switching out the sprockets till I find a sweet spot. Thx Tinker.

I am also going to try electrifying with a friction drive ala Fig's joyrider. Reading back on his post, I missed initialy how he is using his E-drive on the non-chain driven wheel. I scored a powerchair off CL for $75 (ripped seat and broken plastic bits, which I dont need anyway). The motor and controller are 24v so It will require 2 batteries but hey... Two 42 amp/hrs came with the chair, I'll have to do some range testing, no idea of their age but they charge up well so far. The motors are nice sealed units with integral gearboxes, torqe-y as hell (designed to move up to a 350lb body at slightly above walking speed).

Anyway, thanks for all the great info,
and I'll make sure to post back as this build gets underway.
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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:36 am

Your motor bracket may have to be more complex.

It can't have any flex or it will just slip against the tire.

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Re: Bicycle question, three-wheelers??

Postby Martiansky » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:14 pm

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The picture came out a bit blurry but this is what I've been tinkering with lately.
Just finished my little workbench so now I have more time to work on the trike....and a place to work.
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