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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Eric » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:42 pm

TomServo wrote:[Here's the original piece..

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Now that's funny. I'd be more likely to ask you where I could get one than call you a pathetic hipster about that.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Turtleburp » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:54 pm

Eric wrote:
TomServo wrote:[Here's the original piece..

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Now that's funny. I'd be more likely to ask you where I could get one than call you a pathetic hipster about that.


Nope I'm really fucking offended - in this day and age that does not to be soo blurry - period
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby TomServo » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:01 am

Better?
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I was inspired by seeing a pic of Larry's Book, "Mein Kamp" at the old HQ.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby junglesmacks » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:11 am

No. The Daffy one rocked.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby TomServo » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:36 am

junglesmacks wrote:No. The Daffy one rocked.

Thank You! I spent a month on that fucking design, getting it just right.. and when my old comp died the good ones died with it. Starting from scratch..
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby junglesmacks » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:44 am

Find some higher res versions though.. here's one: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NOmOHeyqn98/U ... 80x800.jpg
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby TomServo » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:49 am

THANKS! Saved it to my Lost Art file. Is there a format I should work in? Been using 24Bm for layering, then save the final in jpeg.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby junglesmacks » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:55 am

I use Photoshop/Illustrator for stuff like this, so I keep all the files as native .psd or .ai files until I'm ready to convert them into the end version..
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby TomServo » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:15 am

I use window's paint. Cause I like the tediousness (I really do!). Did I mention I also do Celtic knotwork?..by hand..
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby canexplain » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:25 am

TomServo wrote:Better?
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I was inspired by seeing a pic of Larry's Book, "Mein Kamp" at the old HQ.

I think it is cool. Not so much as a Nazi thing and that's what makes it from wtf ??? to yea that's pretty sweet....And of course it has the Man
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby mrchiff » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:35 am

tattoogoddess wrote:I got to thinking today about if there is a line that can be crossed on the playa as far as attire.
I know a person who is attending this year and they purchased a replica nazi military greens jacket to wear out on the playa with the 2 bolts, eagle crunching the swatztiga (spelling?)
I find the jacket very offensive and told them I don't think it is such a hot idea. I'm all for radical self expression, but should there be a line, "supporting/promoting" a military who killed millions based on a race?
Am I over reacting? They are not a neo nazi, skinhead ect btw just fascinated I guess. Or at least that's what I gather.


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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Elorrum » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:25 am

My feeling is that a uniform you describe is a hot button for many reasons and no one could say they aren't aware of that. Are they choosing to push those buttons and why? Is it fun to knowingly upset people. I don't find it fun personally, but someone else might and are they willing to talk about that and discuss their costume? Is it just a big "Fuck you" they are expressing? I don't understand that. Are they promoting what the uniform stands for? They can wear what they want. I'd just hope they are ready to own up to the reactions they know they will be getting, and be willing to talk about it.

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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Eric » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:52 am

TomServo wrote:THANKS! Saved it to my Lost Art file. Is there a format I should work in? Been using 24Bm for layering, then save the final in jpeg.


I'm not familiar with the "24Bm" format, and I can't find anything about it on the web, so I can't comment on that, but I can tell you that .jpg is one of the worst possible formats to save a piece in - it's "lossy", meaning that every single time you hit "save", it loses more data. That's why images that go around the web from computer to computer start to look like crappy photocopies (and probably why your background on the Daffy image is so pixilated).

You need to save it in a lossless format, the most common of which is .png - it's going to be a larger file, but you're not going to lose data from it when you hit save. I also highly recommend saving "versions" - open "Daffy Background.png" and add "that's all folks", save as "Daffy Background2.png" or something. That way if you screw up & hit save when you didn't mean to, you have a version only one step earlier to revert to. If I'm working on multiple images for a single final image, I general name each file "Image1Master1" (original), "Image1Master2" (1st alerations), "Image2Master1" etc. I've had up to 8 "Masters" for each layer in the final version, but I've never had a screw up cost me more than 30 minutes work to fix.

I save the photo's I post to the web as .jpg because I know any browser on the planet can read them, on my computer I have my master copies saved as either "camera raw" or .png
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby ^Rhino! » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:04 am

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Actually, it would be 'Das is kaput, volks!' IF you wanted to put 'der Daffy' Eagle at the end of the Looney Tunes.

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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby BBadger » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:05 am

Most of the "low-quality" in that image is from low-quality source material, not so much encoding artifacts -- though it is good practice to save your masters in a lossless format (including retaining layer information) and only using a lossy format if you need to provide a draft copy to someone else (or for a photo, which usually doesn't matter).
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Nipple » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:24 am

That logo looks like a really good candidate to be turned into vector art.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby International Incident » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:29 pm

I love how a thread started as a domestic dispute becomes a discussion about art, tech and photos.

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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby oneeyeddick » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:14 pm

Don't worry, it will turn into dick jokes by the time it reaches page 4.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby tattoogoddess » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:56 pm

I still don't care for it but nothing I can do about it. Meh
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Turtleburp » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:11 pm

TomServo wrote:Better?
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I was inspired by seeing a pic of Larry's Book, "Mein Kamp" at the old HQ.


JS is right Daffy is better - this made me think of the great metal pendant i got last year though
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:14 pm

tattoogoddess wrote:I got to thinking today about if there is a line that can be crossed on the playa as far as attire.
I know a person who is attending this year and they purchased a replica nazi military greens jacket to wear out on the playa with the 2 bolts, eagle crunching the swatztiga (spelling?)
I find the jacket very offensive and told them I don't think it is such a hot idea. I'm all for radical self expression, but should there be a line, "supporting/promoting" a military who killed millions based on a race?
Am I over reacting? They are not a neo nazi, skinhead ect btw just fascinated I guess. Or at least that's what I gather.


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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Turtleburp » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:20 pm

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If you're going to do it, do it properly, fuck off the feldgrau and try this...

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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby BBadger » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:47 pm

So I wonder how much attention a "whites only" sign or other racial type stuff, like a KKK camp, would bring? That almost seems like it would strike a more bitter cord than Nazi regalia.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:38 pm

Probably, Bbadger.

And the "Feather" line is damn dangerous to cross as well.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Foxfur » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:48 pm

BBadger wrote:So I wonder how much attention a "whites only" sign or other racial type stuff, like a KKK camp, would bring?

I visited a friend that I hadn't seen in years. In her kitchen was a bowl that she'd written WHITES ONLY!!! on.
I screamed "What in the fucking fuck is that???"
She told me it was for meringue only. Said any amount of grease or fat residue would result in non-fluffy egg whites.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby knowmad » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:42 pm

Foxfur wrote:...
Now I know how to beat stiffer peaks :roll:


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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby Eric » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:51 pm

BBadger wrote:So I wonder how much attention a "whites only" sign or other racial type stuff, like a KKK camp, would bring? That almost seems like it would strike a more bitter cord than Nazi regalia.


I have friends who threw a "White Party" on the playa in 2008 (a year I couldn't attend). Some KKK outfits, some Nazi outfits, various forms of redneck - the subtheme was "Come as Your Oppressor", and the majority of the camp was Latino/ minority. They thought it was hysterical (one of them is a designer & was even making couture klan-outfits), and it might have been if they hadn't been flakes all week & had actually put up the "Come as Your Oppressor" signs, and the other bits that skewed the theme. As it was, all I've heard are the words "unmitigated disaster" - though apparently almost everyone who was offended was white...

I think it could be done "well" (as in skewed properly), like Apokaliptika did with the Soviets, I just think it would take a lot of planning and effort to pull off.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby TomServo » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:57 am

24 color bitmap.is what I saved drafts as.

As far as the Black Algemeine Uniform...I think Daffy would be lost in all the BLACK. I like the M-36 feldgrau, it could just as easily go with a pickelhaube as a stahlhelm.

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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby BBadger » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:20 am

Adobe has provided Photoshop CS2 and other programs for free download. See if you can use that for your graphics rather than relying on BMP files. One thing nice is that it preserves layers so that you can move stuff around as needed, and apply blending effects and all that.
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Re: Is there a line you Can cross at bm?

Postby TomServo » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:32 am

I'm on Windows 8

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