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Kava

Postby Ugly Dougly » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:37 pm

I've never tried it. Who can tell me about it?

In Papua New Guinea, the locals in Madang province refer to their kava as waild koniak ("wild cognac" in English).


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Re: Kava

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:54 pm

i've been drinking fucking kava for years.


beats eating tums all day long.


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Re: Kava

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:03 pm

Damn, all this time--based on the name, I suppose--I've regarded Roberto as an unrepentant espresso drinker. A couple of dozen of cups a day. Well, those tiny shot glass cups.
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Re: Kava

Postby Ugly Dougly » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:23 pm

In Rotuma, kava has two contexts, ceremonial and informal. The kava ceremony, when it functions as part of any ceremonial event, is a highly political affair, with individuals served according to rank. In pre-European times, the kava was chewed by virgin girls, (marked by caked limestone on their hair), before it was mixed with the water to make the drink. Prior to European influences the kava ceremony was carried out with chewing and serving done by chiefly virgins, and mixing done by older, experienced and culturally aware women.
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Re: Kava

Postby Elorrum » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:25 pm

Piper methsicum, kava, grog, yaqona. Made from the pounded up roots kneaded in a cloth (silk is best) in a bowl of water. Mild soporific, diuretic, makes your mouth feel numb. Tastes like mud. In Fiji clap once when the bilo (cup) is offered... Drink in one big gulp. Clap thrice. Say, "maca". (mah-tha) means "empty"
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Re: Kava

Postby Ugly Dougly » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:06 pm

I'm looking for an official kava chewer, Elo. Are you volunteering?
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Re: Kava

Postby maladroit » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:28 pm

Everyone there will have caked limestone in their hair, but virgins will be in short supply.
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Re: Kava

Postby gaminwench » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:31 pm

it's nasty.
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Re: Kava

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:34 pm

My limestone will be pancaked.
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Re: Kava

Postby Elorrum » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:35 pm

Dougly, I think it's available online, maybe in San Mateo too. I never heard of virgins chewing it in modern day Fiji. They usually pounded the roots to powder. It was generally the chore of the young men in the villages. You could also buy it pre-ground in the markets. It's part of ceremony, and social, like having a beer with friends also. It was always passed around one cup at a time, with the eldest, or the guest being served first. We would have a grog bowl at the house on Friday at the end of the week, and whenever family arrived from overseas. When I go back to place my mother's memorial, there will be lots of kava. I don't drink it socially, but always have a few small cups on those special occasions. It's a great honor when friends from chiefly families do the ceremony. No lime in the hair.
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Re: Kava

Postby Apprentice Dreamer » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:27 pm

The chewed by virgins bit is the traditional practice (as they tended to be young & have better teeth), but now it's all done with an automatic grinder to powderise the roots.

Kava - like whisky - is a bit of an acquired taste, served traditionally it resembles a bowl of muddy water & doesn't have a pleasant taste.
I'm on some tonight - though prepared in coconut milk for the taste & because the fatty milk absorbs the kavalactones well. It is quite nice once you get over the taste, maybe after the 1st cup or so, quite subtle effect but very relaxing & a bit inebriating.

Elorrum's right it's easily available on-line & you might get some at healthfood stores - avoid the capsules though they've got a rep for being old & low quality compared to loose powdered root sold for drinking.
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Klava!

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:41 pm

Not a patch on klava.
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Re: Kava

Postby Sail Man » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:37 pm

The availability of online party favors never ceases to amaze me. The next time I find a patient face down in a mud puddle I will try and remember to consider the possibility they were looking for kava. :)
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Re: Kava

Postby AntiM » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:00 pm

Had some in Kona. Felt ... odd. Not bad, but different. Subtle. I can get is as an extract at the local Good Earth, or online. I usually don't bother.
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Re: Kava

Postby EspressoDude » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:27 pm

I was invited to a kava ceremony while on Ponape. everyone ground and beat the pulp. I don't remember what the straining cloth was, except porous. lots of fiber. stuff tasted like the mud the roots were pulled out of. A tingly buzz and numbs the lips n gums. 2 hours later nap time.
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Re: Kava

Postby Foxfur » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:21 pm

Got mine at Real Kava...


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Re: Kava

Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:12 pm

Is the Spam just there for size comparison?
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Re: Kava

Postby Foxfur » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:04 am

theCryptofishist wrote:Is the Spam just there for size comparison?

I consume it along with the kava. It's a synergistic side dish that potentiates the betakavalactone molecule for increased bioavailability in the hippocampus.
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Re: Kava

Postby Earthwalker » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:04 pm

Perhaps I did something wrong, but I've tried it in both powder and liquid form, and neither tasted at all good to me or had much of a noticeable affect.

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Re: Kava

Postby Foxfur » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:06 am

It tastes like shit on roadkill.
How much did you drink?
It is very subtle. I usually drink about a pint and get somewhere around half the relaxation of 10mg of Valium.
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Re: Kava

Postby Earthwalker » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:44 pm

Foxfur wrote:It tastes like shit on roadkill.
How much did you drink?
It is very subtle. I usually drink about a pint and get somewhere around half the relaxation of 10mg of Valium.


Whoa crap!!! I've drank a cup with a tablespoon of powder, or a cup with 30 drops from a vile. A pint? Wow, no, never that much. Tasted too much like liquid poop (don't ask). And 10mg valium. I think I'm good then. But I'm also a guy who ate 18 vicodin once and didn't really feel all that much.

I'll leave the kava to the polynesians. Thanks for the info though. At least now I know I'm not crazy (well, as it relates to kava)

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Re: Kava

Postby Ugly Dougly » Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:30 pm

Might be fun for a brewer to throw some in with the hops.
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Re: Kava

Postby Earthwalker » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:07 am

Suppose one could try smoking it. I think if you smoke anything and convince yourself it's going to do something to you, it will
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Re: Kava

Postby Apprentice Dreamer » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:53 am

smoking it won't do much, its too bulky for you to get anything without smoking like a pound of it or something. Think I heard it may well be denatured by heat too
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Re: Kava

Postby Ugly Dougly » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:56 am

Sooner or later, somebody had to try it. :D
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Re: Kava

Postby Earthwalker » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:10 pm

I've been the guinea pig on way too many things already :)
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Re: Kava

Postby Redward » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:35 pm

I am putting energy towards being able to bring and serve 'awa (kava) at my camp. I have worked with the plant and love it as a drink, It is subtle but a week is a good length of time to get rooted.
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Re: Kava

Postby Apprentice Dreamer » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:51 am

Sounds good Redward, let u know where you'll be & I'll pop in for a bowl/cup as never tried it in anything approaching a traditional setting.
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Re: Kava

Postby Bounce530 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:21 pm

Hey Foxy, I bought some of the kava kwik from your link...how much powder do you put in your pint?
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