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What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing County?

Postby 1durphul » Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:56 pm

Just out of curiosity, what's happening with that lawsuit against Pershing County? What is the next step, and when is it happening?

It's kind of amazing to me how slow these things move...
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Rice » Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:56 pm

1durphul wrote:Just out of curiosity, what's happening with that lawsuit against Pershing County? What is the next step, and when is it happening?

It's kind of amazing to me how slow these things move...

My experience with the USA legal system is basically non-existent - I do know that law-suits take time, lots of time. There is a website http://brcvpc.com/ which has (as far as I am aware) all the available info.

Hope that helps your curiosity...
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby 1durphul » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:05 pm

Rice wrote:
1durphul wrote:Just out of curiosity, what's happening with that lawsuit against Pershing County? What is the next step, and when is it happening?

It's kind of amazing to me how slow these things move...

My experience with the USA legal system is basically non-existent - I do know that law-suits take time, lots of time. There is a website http://brcvpc.com/ which has (as far as I am aware) all the available info.

Hope that helps your curiosity...



Sadly it doesn't appear to have been updated since August, and there were things that happened in October according to Google (Pershing failed to dismiss). If it had been kept up to date that would have been a really useful website! Oh well....
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Rice » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:07 pm

1durphul wrote:
Rice wrote:
1durphul wrote:Just out of curiosity, what's happening with that lawsuit against Pershing County? What is the next step, and when is it happening?

It's kind of amazing to me how slow these things move...

My experience with the USA legal system is basically non-existent - I do know that law-suits take time, lots of time. There is a website http://brcvpc.com/ which has (as far as I am aware) all the available info.

Hope that helps your curiosity...



Sadly it doesn't appear to have been updated since August, and there were things that happened in October according to Google (Pershing failed to dismiss). If it had been kept up to date that would have been a really useful website! Oh well....

yes, updates would be useful in knowing what is happening! Unfortunately, that is not the case {sigh}.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:34 pm

We had another thread on this recently...
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Rice » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:57 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:We had another thread on this recently...

I could not find it! otherwise I woulda posted the link... {sigh}
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby trilobyte » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:07 pm

There were a string of posts about it in the 'Nudity Banned This Year?' thread that was started prior to the 2012 event. Nothing's really happening with it at the moment, and I don't think there are any court dates scheduled before the 2013 event. Relevant updates would be posted on the Burning Blog as well as covered in the Jack Rabbit Speaks newsletter.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby oscillator » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:02 pm

FYI...
Nevada Assemblyman David Bobzien who represents Reno filed draft legislation that would "prohibit local governments from enacting ordinances that restrict events such as Burning Man on federal lands."

http://www.rgj.com/article/20121006/EVE ... ck_check=1
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Sham » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:03 pm

Looks like good news to me!
http://www.ktvn.com/story/21936281/neva ... g-man-bill

A Nevada legislative panel has narrowly approved a bill to prevent rural Pershing County from imposing its own rules and fees on the Burning Man festival held annually on the Black Rock Desert.

AB374 now goes the Assembly floor.

It follows a lawsuit filed last fall by Burning Man organizers challenging a county festival ordinance that seeks to impose a $1.50-per-head fee to cover law enforcement costs. Organizers say the ordinance also seeks to regulate behavior at the counter-culture festival that draws more than 50,000 people to the desert 110 miles north of Reno.

The bill before the Legislature prevents a board of county commissioners from regulating or licensing an event if a federal agency has issued a license or permit.

Burning Man receives a permit from the BLM.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby clocksnmirrors » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:05 pm

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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Savannah » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:56 pm

Thanks, Sham! Good news, indeed.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Isotopia » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:23 am

So very, very sad to hear of Pershing Co's drubbing.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby ygmir » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:24 am

hey, it's Iso!! *waves*

and remember: it's just out of committee, still has to pass and be signed. Good news indeed, but, don't start counting chickens........keep up the letter writing and phone calls (( Sham: keep your "Petting zoo porn channel up, fundraising is still important))
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby ^Rhino! » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:43 pm

Thought I'd post a link for all you fine burner types to peruse:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 1026.story

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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Elliot » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:00 pm

Now, this Mr. Shirley seems a bit inconsistent, but...

“We’re taking a hard look. We’re not paying for this,” Pershing County Dist. Atty. Jim Shirley told the Los Angeles Times. “We’ll hand the whole thing over to the Bureau of Land Management, if that’s what they want.”


...did he not just propose a splendid solution to the situation?
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby MyDearFriend » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:08 pm

Elliot wrote:Now, this Mr. Shirley seems a bit inconsistent, but...

“We’re taking a hard look. We’re not paying for this,” Pershing County Dist. Atty. Jim Shirley told the Los Angeles Times. “We’ll hand the whole thing over to the Bureau of Land Management, if that’s what they want.”


...did he not just propose a splendid solution to the situation?
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Yes, indeed! But I don't think they'll do it. What gripes their guts is the thought of all that money up there in the corner of their desolate county, over the hills and far away...

Not to mention the NUDITY. :shock:
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby some seeing eye » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:53 pm

Thanks for finding that Mr Rhino! An LA newspaper is a strange place to negotiate. It reminds me of the quote attributed to Shaw and others "we have established what you are, we are now merely haggling over price".
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby TT120 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:58 pm

Why should we pay more money for more cops to come to our party. We didn't invite them anyway.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Sham » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:29 pm

http://www.rgj.com/article/20130423/NEW ... n-festival


Nevada bill bars county fees on Burning Man festival

The Burning Man Festival continues to enjoy success in its quest for legislative protection from county fees and oversight.

The Nevada Assembly passed AB374 in a 26-15 party line vote Tuesday.

Democratic Assemblyman David Bobzien of Reno is sponsoring the bill that prohibits a board of county commissioners from imposing fees or regulations on festivals operating under a federal license or permit. The popular counterculture festival happens 110 miles north of Reno in the Black Rock Desert.

Opponents of the bill sought amendments to remove the country from liability and responsibility of prosecuting crimes due to the high costs of law enforcement for about 50,000 people.

Republican Assemblyman Ira Hansen of Sparks says the bill undermines county authority and makes funding law enforcement difficult for counties.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby knowmad » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:20 pm

Shambala wrote:...

Republican Assemblyman Ira Hansen of Sparks says the bill undermines county authority and makes funding law enforcement difficult for counties.

Well Ira, Sucks to be you.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby maladroit » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:33 pm

Oh, sweet...will be watching for that partial ticket refund check in the mail. ;)
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Sham » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:34 am

From what I recall, Pershing County imposed a huge arbitrary fee last year, which was paid under duress by BMorg. It would seem that the money that was paid should be coming back in the org now. If that's the case, Pershing County is not going to be happy AT ALL! 8)
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby lucky420 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:42 am

This bill was originated by two of our cow counties legislators. The original intent was to keep counties from imposing extra fees to ranchers who have BLM permits for grazing.

After the bill was amended to include events, festivals the 2 original legislators switched sides :lol: go figure...
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby CornMan » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:14 am

lucky420 wrote:This bill was originated by two of our cow counties legislators. The original intent was to keep counties from imposing extra fees to ranchers who have BLM permits for grazing.

After the bill was amended to include events, festivals the 2 original legislators switched sides :lol: go figure...


420, you mean that this bill was not intended to benefit festivals and the money they bring into the Northern Nevada communities, yet it still seems to be moving through the legislature? I don't get it. Could it be a prearranged plan to stall the fight against the money/power grab and then shoot it down at the last minute? Burning Man is largely above board with not many dirty palms grabbing the pie. That will provide a challenge to for Nevada to embrace Burning Man like they embraced the sin of Las Vegas. It will be interesting to see where this ends up.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby lucky420 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:48 pm

no I'mjust saying it started out as a bill to keep counties from over taxing/fees on ranchers who get a federal permit from the blm to graze cows.

Burning man gets a federal permit from blm to graze people

Counties such as washoe,lyon and clark see the benefits of bm on our local economy. pershing county not so much...

Im not sure i understand your conspiracy theory :?
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Kinetik V » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:02 pm

I happen to like the odds of AB374 becoming law this year.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Sham » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:37 pm

I like the idea of a possible boycott/tantrum by Pershing County. It will be fun to watch this play itself out.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:21 pm

I'm with you Sham!

How does a boycott work if nobody cares whether you show up or not? :lol:
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Corvus » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:58 am

From the LA Times article
A solution, he (prosecutor Shirley) suggested, would be to make festival-goers exempt from all laws.

"This would ensure that whatever happens, small rural counties will not have to bear the burden of prosecuting state criminal violations which occur as a direct and proximate result of the large outdoor assembly occurring within a particular county," he wrote to lawmakers.

Was Paul Addis' trial in Pershing or Washoe county courts? It's the biggest one I can think of.
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Re: What's happening with that Lawsuit against Pershing Coun

Postby Sham » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:47 pm

It appears that a search says it was prosecuted in Pershing County. I may be wrong.
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