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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby FIGJAM » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:07 pm

ygmir wrote:thanks Trilo.......yeah, I thought the fins might add a little "Jules Verne" flavor to the wood fired rocketship/tardis.


Indeed Simon....I'm at a loss though, to what I'm seeing.



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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:29 pm

got dampers installed, and handle/latch combo's on the oven doors:

Post smoke plenum damper, to hold heat for ovens:
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near stove damper/shutoff I made a tight fit, solid damper, in case of emergency, I can shut all smoke off. 3/8 plate, turned on my lathe, 5/8 bolt stock pivot pins, flue pipe 1/4" wall:
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smoker handle/latch combo. ventilated copper pipe "hot handle", rattle fit over 1/2" bar stock handle (in closed and locked position):
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latch open:
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bolt travel:
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closed, locked position:
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both handles and latches closed and locked:
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I'm hoping to do final sealing/welding tomorrow, and start setting up for final testing, of both stove and ovens in combination. I need to get it super hot to burn the paint and oils on the metals out, and probably do it several times.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby aserendipity » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:38 pm

larger than I thought
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby trilobyte » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:21 pm

NIce - the long hot test burns will not only help you spot any problems but get rid of all those pesky paints and oils long before you start using it for cooking food. Man, that's one helluva cooker though. I love all those details, and that it's almost all completely repurposed stuff. Way to go, Yggy!
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:32 pm

thanks Trilo........yeah I sort of proud of it all coming from the scap heap. the copper hot handles were left over pipe from another project.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby Roark » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:23 am

That's pretty darned impressive! We may have to make you an Honorary Texan. :mrgreen:

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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:56 am

Roark wrote:That's pretty darned impressive! We may have to make you an Honorary Texan. :mrgreen:

Great pictures!

I"d love to visit Texas some day.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby MyDearFriend » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:34 am

So, Yggy, just curious:

How large of an animal will fit inside that thing?

And can I come watch/help/sharpen your knives or hold the salt for you while you prepare the carcasss for cooking??? 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:02 pm

well MDF:
you, would be welcome for all or any of the process, even if just to enjoy the fruits!

i'ts two compartments. the right, smaller one is 14x14x15, which is the "smoker" oven. The other is 24x14x15, for standard baking.
It was a safe in it's last life, so, the compartment sizes were fixed. but with 1/2" thick doors, should be secure! haahaaha so no one steals my meat, or muffins...........

the cook top on the stove is 36x42, taking out the space for the flue pipe, so plenty of room for pans, I think.
I'm still debating on whether to cut a "pan hole" with removable lid, into the top. I think it should fry ok, like it is.......
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby FIGJAM » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:29 pm

Are you going to season the whole top, as in griddle!!! :shock:

I can see piles of hash browns, home fries, sausage, rows of pancakes, and scrambled eggs going all at the same time. (drool)
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby gaminwench » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:51 pm

and bacon.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:19 pm

*runs in for a drink*........

still welding.........7018 rod now, to back up and work with the MIG wire.

*saunters back out*
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:56 pm

welding hopefully done........only one drop, and one fire.

smoker interior, rack holders, smoke valves lower right front, upper left rear:
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oven with adjustable racking mounts:
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assembly on table, hopefully all ready for testing. welding hammer for scale.:
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:14 pm

well, it all fit together, as hoped at first assembly yay!
tested the diverter, plenum, and draft effect.
All seems fine, had trouble getting the ovens hot enough, and getting smoke to go through the smoker(draft effect?). But also was using fairly wet wood and all, so, I'll try again tomorrow, with good dry wood and hotter fire.

Assembled unit (cinder block temp support, for measurement from ovens to stove top):

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first fire in total assembly, draft worked fine, diverter seemed to work as hoped, heated ovens, but not quite enough. But, mechanics seem fine.

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I'm also wondering, since my temp flue pipe is only 6" dia, and the permanent pipe will be 8", if draft will be better, and maybe lead to more heat in the ovens.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby littleflower » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:22 pm

yggy ..... that IS so COOL!!!!! er, i mean, HOT!!!!!!
i certainly would think a larger pipe would create more heat in the ovens, but do you think any escapes? maybe insulate the pipe? how is the draft through the whole thing?

although ..... i LOVE the way it looks ....... like some crazy machine ....
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby lucky420 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:52 pm

Quite impressive Yggy, quite impressive 8)
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby Ugly Dougly » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:07 pm

Slightly demented and very steam punky.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:35 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:Slightly demented and very steam punky.


I have a doctorate of dementia, from the doctor, himself!!
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby burner von braun » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:20 am

Ahh ha! Now I get it. I was having trouble visualizing how this new section fit into the scheme. Never doubted, just hadn't been able to figure it out.

It seems like your Frankenstove will be perfect for the hof!
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby Roark » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:05 am

I was giggling and thinking about Ygmir. This is the type of guy that, given a couple of jet engines and a well stocked junkyard, would either make a steampunk pod racer... Or one hell of a bbq.

Or both. :mrgreen:
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby FIGJAM » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:10 am

Got a simple idea from the stake thread.

Put 2 links of chain on the lag bolt I use for ancores so that rope, ratchet straps, bungees, or anything can be ancored. (took about 2 mins.)

It would also work with 12" nails that people like to use as stakes. (those nails are 65 cents a piece) 8)

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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:45 am

IIRC, FJ, you screw those in, not pound them?

good idea, safe easy and fast.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby aserendipity » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:46 am

Yggy, No wonder I was seeing it put together differently
lovely how high you set.. makes it ..and I applaud
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:53 am

thanks ASD. only thing, I may need to provide a stool for "vertically challenged" folks, the oven bottom is about 5' high.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby MyDearFriend » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:55 am

FIGJAM wrote:Got a simple idea from the stake thread.

Put 2 links of chain on the lag bolt I use for ancores so that rope, ratchet straps, bungees, or anything can be ancored. (took about 2 mins.)

It would also work with 12" nails that people like to use as stakes. (those nails are 65 cents a piece) 8)

Ideas don't have to ge big to be brilliant. :wink:


Hmmmm, Figjam you are giving me ideas! 8)

Yggy, that massive construction is awesome, really. I would love to bake a cake in that thing. 8)
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby aserendipity » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:06 am

Yes Yggy, that is exactly what I meant
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby MyDearFriend » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:34 am

ygmir wrote:thanks ASD. only thing, I may need to provide a stool for "vertically challenged" folks, the oven bottom is about 5' high.


Five feet to the bottom of the oven? :shock: :shock: :shock: How 'bout a ladder? :lol:

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Clever of you to put the oven at eye level for yourself, Yggy. 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby FIGJAM » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:36 am

ygmir wrote:IIRC, FJ, you screw those in, not pound them?

good idea, safe easy and fast.


Even though I don't bring a genny to the burn, I do have a 3000/6000 inverter that I can quick connect to the truck to run my electric jackhammer for digging holes for cactus.

With the inverter and my hole hog drill with a socket on it, I can zip those lags in and out with ease.

Elliot uses his impact wrench. 8)
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:46 am

FIGJAM wrote:
ygmir wrote:IIRC, FJ, you screw those in, not pound them?

good idea, safe easy and fast.


Even though I don't bring a genny to the burn, I do have a 3000/6000 inverter that I can quick connect to the truck to run my electric jackhammer for digging holes for cactus.

With the inverter and my hole hog drill with a socket on it, I can zip those lags in and out with ease.

Elliot uses his impact wrench. 8)


yeah a roto hammer would be just the ticket!

I've had good luck with the auger end ones, and am now thinking if I welded a nut on the top, I could drive them with said rotohammer.
3" dia auger and by the time it's 8 or 10 inches down, you can't move it.

I've always got jumper cables you can borrow.
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Re: Work in Progress 2013

Postby ygmir » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:55 pm

well, dry, fast and hot burning wood, (framing scraps) made a difference! also I put closed the damper above the ovens, to slow the smoke travel (which also allowed smoke into the smoking chamber).
I then took a door off an old metal locker, stuffed the 2" gap with fluffy layers of aluminum foil (about a dozen), and welded it over the exposed back of the ovens. I think that should help insulate that area a lot, helping to keep radiant heat trapped.

Temps up to about 340 in the smoking oven now, 320 or so in the baking. I'm not sure how accurate my old thermometers are, but I'm sure they're close enough.

and, I think my "finned" design, is working pretty well. Anyone who comes close to the stove, comments on how much heat it throws, or radiates. And this is outside, in open air.
all the extra surface, must allow more infrared projection?
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