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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby wh..sh » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:09 am

Hayseed wrote:For whatever reason drugs never have and still don't interest me. Consequently, I've never followed or learned drug slang, past through present. I do, however, have a sweet tooth that should qualify me for rehab somewhere. If someone (narc) asked me in the City or on the Playa if I wanted some "candy", I gotta tell you I'd be thinking M&M's or a Butterfinger. Is this dumb farmer at risk of County lockup because no one would ever believe that I thought "candy" was candy? I'm starting to get paranoid, man!

I gotta admit, I am the same way. I can't keep up with drug slang, mostly because of my lack of interest.
Maybe when someone offers you candy on playa, you can say "Man, I would really like a snickers bar right now" and hope they will correct you.
Or just go ahead and ask if it's "Candy Candy or Candy candy" :wink:

I see nothing wrong in clarifying about stuff people offer. One night, I was dancing with some of my camp mates and my friend asked if I wanted a drink. I thought he was offering water and said yes. He gave me a water bottle. After gulping down a big drink, I realized it was vodka. Not that I wouldn't drink vodka, but we sure had different definition for drink at that point of time :D
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Elliot » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:59 am

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One year, a bicycle repair customer handed me a small zip-lock bag as a token of thanks for the bicycle repair. I studied it a while but had to ask what it was. Mushrooms. And not the kind you put on pizza. I thanked the lady profusely -- and gave it back to her.
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Froves » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:54 pm

If i suspect someone is a cop next year and they offer me something can i just pull out my dick and look at them with a funny face lol? or is that bad?
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Rice » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:14 pm

Froves wrote:If i suspect someone is a cop next year and they offer me something can i just pull out my dick and look at them with a funny face lol? or is that bad?

If someone acted like that towards you, how would you react??

This is not exactly hard. Just say "No Thank you!" and walk away.

If you treat cops with respect, behave politely, you will have a much more positive experience! I have seen to many people get in great trouble with the law simply because they chose to be idiots...

In the end, it is up to you.

(Oh, There is a good chance that law enforcement reads this board!)
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby A-RockLeFrench » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:40 pm

Anyone know if there's any merit to the claim that if you point blank ask whoever is propositioning you "are you a cop/undercover agent/working with the cops?" that it is illegal for them to lie to you?
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Simon of the Playa » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:44 pm

from the beginning until the end of time "Legal" is what you can get away with.
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Savannah » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:51 pm

A-RockLeFrench wrote:Anyone know if there's any merit to the claim that if you point blank ask whoever is propositioning you "are you a cop/undercover agent/working with the cops?" that it is illegal for them to lie to you?


It is not illegal for them to lie about that.

http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.asp

http://www.erowid.org/freedom/police/police_info6.shtml
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby 5280MeV » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:58 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:from the beginning until the end of time "Legal" is what you can get away with.


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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby aserendipity » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:04 pm

Hmm,
Frove, now I am curious
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby BBadger » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:05 pm

A-RockLeFrench wrote:Anyone know if there's any merit to the claim that if you point blank ask whoever is propositioning you "are you a cop/undercover agent/working with the cops?" that it is illegal for them to lie to you?


That is one of the most perpetuated myths regarding law enforcement, undercover or not. Law enforcement can lie to you in any setting, including during interrogation.

What is illegal is for you to lie to a cop. However, what is not illegal is for you to not say anything at all to the cop besides what you are legally obligated to (e.g. providing your ID when asked).

The only place a cop is obligated to tell the truth is when providing evidence or giving testimony in a court of law. Likewise, a court of law is the only place you should be divulging any information with regard to your case or any other, and even then only when specifically required to under advice of a lawyer.

As posted many other times (part two is a cop describing what cops can do and why you should not say anything):

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby knowmad » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:26 am

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby mdmf007 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:13 am

Nipple wrote:I do not consent to a search before I post questions on ePlaya.


Its ok, we already scanned your computer when you signed up, nothing tripped our Moopometer or LE'Ometer

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Bob » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:38 pm

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Kinetik V » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:15 pm

These clips are some of the best ones you can watch so here's a repost to give them a bit more attention. BBadger's whole post is 100% truth.

BBadger wrote:
A-RockLeFrench wrote:Anyone know if there's any merit to the claim that if you point blank ask whoever is propositioning you "are you a cop/undercover agent/working with the cops?" that it is illegal for them to lie to you?


That is one of the most perpetuated myths regarding law enforcement, undercover or not. Law enforcement can lie to you in any setting, including during interrogation.

What is illegal is for you to lie to a cop. However, what is not illegal is for you to not say anything at all to the cop besides what you are legally obligated to (e.g. providing your ID when asked).

The only place a cop is obligated to tell the truth is when providing evidence or giving testimony in a court of law. Likewise, a court of law is the only place you should be divulging any information with regard to your case or any other, and even then only when specifically required to under advice of a lawyer.

As posted many other times (part two is a cop describing what cops can do and why you should not say anything):

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby H.G.Crosby » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:06 am

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby knowmad » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:21 am

H.G.Crosby wrote:knowmad escapes from a sting operation involving cell-phone jamming.

Would have made it too if it wasn't for those Pesky Boxers!
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Super Evil Brian » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:02 am

I wonder if anyone ever thinks I'm a narc or an undercover cop.

I'm sort of clean cut looking and often quiet and observant. I don't have a costume and dress to be comfortable in the climate and I don't think I act "like a burner," although I don't know what that means.
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby aserendipity » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:09 am

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Sham » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:18 am

I know I look narcish. I can tell that I am being checked out when I walk into any club on the playa. It's hard to start a conversation when everyone thinks you're a cop. At least when I hang out in places where people know me, it's a little easier. I can't imagine being a real cop and having people not like you 24/7! :lol:
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby aserendipity » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:23 am

and then there I would be
trying to talk with you
that whole old let me "understand" you
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby AntiM » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:53 am

Some of my best schwag was gifts from the BLM. They're pretty chatty.
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby tatonka » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:31 am

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby sabalore » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:13 pm

Hayseed wrote:I do, however, have a sweet tooth that should qualify me for rehab somewhere. If someone (narc) asked me in the City or on the Playa if I wanted some "candy", I gotta tell you I'd be thinking M&M's or a Butterfinger. Is this dumb farmer at risk of County lockup because no one would ever believe that I thought "candy" was candy? I'm starting to get paranoid, man!


HAHA! You and me both. I'd have said "yes" to "candy" in a heartbeat and been REALLY REALLY disappointed (and I guess arrested!?) when I wasn't handed a pack of skittles.

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby BBadger » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:26 pm

Someone asked me for some candy once when I was talking to someone at a camp. I told her I had a granola bar and she could have that. She was okay with that.

But now that I think about it....
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Elliot » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:17 pm

:D
I'm going to Europe in April and hope to bring back some high grade chocolates. For BM, yes. (If I don't eat them all myself first.) Have refrigerator, yes.

Soooo... is there a way to entice people to ask for "candy"?



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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Captain Goddammit » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:24 pm

Hey little girl, want some candy?
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby EspressoDude » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:35 pm

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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby aserendipity » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:37 pm

Elliott ,
I sure would like some candy...
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby Drawingablank » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:31 am

Elliot wrote::D
I'm going to Europe in April and hope to bring back some high grade chocolates. For BM, yes. (If I don't eat them all myself first.) Have refrigerator, yes.

Soooo... is there a way to entice people to ask for "candy"?



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The folks across the road from us this year were gifting candy (the sweet kind) all week. They had a white van with no windows parked near the road with FREE CANDY written all over it with blue tape. Not sure what they called their camp, but we just referred to it as Rape Van camp all week.
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Re: Police Using Entrapment

Postby delle » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:50 am

I ended up addicted to lemon-heads (a shit-ton of which I'd bought on my way in). Ended up eating and offering them with abandon.

Not reckless abandon tho.... I always offered them with the words "I promise and apologize that they're really JUST candy".

I think that's pretty much a good thing to add whenever offering anything comestible out there. If it's true.
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