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Re: Stay away from the panty boutique!

Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:50 pm

The more education on the more levels is good. fwiw we do talk about incidents in the workshops. NOt a whole lot of detail, because they aren't really our stories to tell. (Which may be a problem in itself, I dunno.) I'm sorta ready for something different.
But I'm not sure what.
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Re: Stay away from the panty boutique!

Postby salope » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:40 pm

It's an interesting question: to what degree is B.E.D. preaching to the choir, so to speak?

I think there are plenty of people out there at the burn who aren't "sex camp fiends" who could benefit from a little reminder or education about communication & consent. But is the message even getting to them? Or should there be a different, broader message for them?

The broader B.E.D. message should apply to everyone, even if you are not explicitly looking for sexual situations. Awareness of boundaries, non-pressuring communication, learning to look for non-verbal cues - these are just as relelvant to a friendly flirtation on the esplanade as a solicitation in the orgy dome. And even if you aren't cruising at the burn, you can take that awareness home with you, and let it inform your social interactions more broadly. It's not just about sex.

I think a crime map would be awesome. I also think that a distilled report of aggregated historical info about on-playa assaults and rapes (leaving out the details that aren't ours to tell) would be hugely helpful. Someone in the org has got to be able to look at the incident reports throughout the years.

How about: Here's how rapists have historically tended to operate on the playa. Here are some patterns we've noticed. Here are some specific things you should look out for. Beware this modus operandi.

I recall one of the posts from a Want It! camp member in the Serial Rapist thread (or perhaps on their facebook) mentioning other creepy behaviors they noticed and were looking out for. What if camps started sharing that information with other camps? Here's some creepy shit we noticed, here's what we're trying to do about it. Any other ideas or similar stories?
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Re: Stay away from the panty boutique!

Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:06 pm

I'm sure we are not equiped to do anything like a statistical survey, but I wonder if there's even a way to get a blurry snapshot and shes what might not be seen by which groups of participants.
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Re: Stay away from the panty boutique!

Postby Jim-dandy! » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:25 pm

To vintagebasilisk,
I’m Jim Foerster (Jim-dandy!), a leader of Anat’s Love Camp. Anat & I want you to know that we’re deeply saddened to hear that you were treated so badly by the member of our camp that was running the panty boutique. His bad behavior was unacceptable and he was kicked out! He was asked by the Pershing county sheriff to leave BRC Sunday night right before the Temple burn and the sheriff escorted him out of the event. In the future, we will NOT have his panty boutique and he will NOT be allowed to camp at Anat’s Love Camp. We offer our sincerest apology for his bad behavior, to you and to anyone else that he treated badly. Please don’t let this one bad apple spoil it for the rest of us at Anat’s Love Camp.
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Re: Stay away from the panty boutique!

Postby pink » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:29 pm

I'm happy to hear he was kicked out. Too bad it wasn't sooner.
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Re: Stay away from the panty boutique!

Postby Bob » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:39 pm

Just a few anecdotes about selected real incidents might be educational. Denying that simple/aggravated/sexual/etc. assaults occur seems not really in keeping with bragging that BRC is the x-ranked city in Nevada.

A log of "Sheriff's Calls" would eye-opening and amusing to boot.
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Re: Stay away from the panty boutique!

Postby theCryptofishist » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:19 pm

One year there was a guy in our camp who did the whole creepy massage thing to a much younger, birgin. Things got ugly.

Over in the "Is Burningman Dangerous" thread, someone mentioned a young woman showing up at camp one night, very altered, and being persuaded to use the couch. We've heard those stories here (on the board) before, maybe with less than happy endings. There's probably some worthy incidents that could be pulled out of this site, but I'm not going ot do it.
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