fresh wrote:Thanks!!! I was thinking about using the ratchet straps similar to yours, already got them as well as the solar lights!!!. Great idea about using bungees. The middle piece is 5' and i think gets the bend since there half of that piece is slid into the connectors. Would you think if I did 3 x 8' rib sections vs. 2 x 10' and 1 x 5' that it would be better?? It would be some work to do at this junction, but i already have the extra pvc.
MacGlenver wrote:I have to say -- no offense to Love's Monkey hut, but the design where you make the spine out of multiple sections connected via those wedged in duct tape ends is terrible. We used it last year and the center spine kept coming out of the T and X connectors and falling on our heads. We had to tape the shit out of it to make it stay in, which is contrary to the point of the design. If you put a strap on the end ribs, it will surely pull the spine out of its connectors.
The better design is to take 10' sections of 1" PVC and join them with a 3 foot long, 1 & 1/4" sleeve. You duct tape around the 1" stuff about a foot from the end to prevent it from sliding too far into the wider 3' sleeve. If you want to be sure it wont slide out, add some duct tape once the 1" stuff is inside the thicker PVC. Rinse and repeat for several sections (up to 30 or 40 feet -- I've only tried up to 30' thought). Don't bother with the in-line ridge pole, just make a pole of the appropriate length using the method I described, and set it directly on top of the curved ribs. Use duct tape or bicycle tire wrapped cross-wise over the ridge pole and the rib to tie them together. MUCH sturdier and easier to build than Love's monkey hut, and almost no cutting except for the connector sleeves.
We're trying an EVEN easier method this year, which is using the 10' long schedule 40 wiring conduit, which has one bell-shaped end so you can just plug one piece into the other (taping if necessary).
The short version of the story is that if your design requires any T or X PVC connectors, then you're making it way too complicated AND it will be less sturdy.
Someone tell me I'm wrong if I am, but I've tested this design several times and seen a few people post something very similar. I've intended to post a proper writeup with pictures -- will get to it after Bman.
CrispyDave wrote:Can you come back here and post how it went after the Man burns?
maladroit wrote:Just get some 1-1/2" pipe, cut 1 foot sections, and actually glue them into the connectors where the spine should go. Then you can slide 5-foot pieces of spine into those pipes. They won't slide off with 1 foot of interlock, rather than 1".
CrispyDave wrote:Just curiosity, Loves Hut has been around a long time. Improvements are good, just want to know how the improvements hold up under the expected weather this year.
This was posted Tuesday.
"Just had this relayed to me, comes from someone who's on-site at BRC...
[i]"Over a 100 degrees everyday by 3pm. At 7-8pm for the last 3 nights we have had 60+ mph winds with dust whiteout. The playa is getting scrubbed by these high winds. We lost 2 roof so far from the Temple camp kitchen/camp area. We are running out of 40x50' tarps !!!!! Be prepared - all the town locals & old burners say this is one of the highest wind years. We expect continued storms for the next 2 nights. We had a 20' tall 50x50' structure demolised last night & it was just substructure of 2x8" wood - ripped off the foundation. Not enough cross bracing yet - uugh."
maladroit wrote:Edit: forgot to mention that you're not guaranteed to get a 1-1/4" pipe into a 1-1/2" pipe unless you find schedule 20 or class 200 pipes for the 1-1/2" section. The 1-1/4" pipe is a hair too big to slide in so you either have to sand it down a little (lot of work, nice and snug fit) or 1" pipe would probably still work fine, as it's just being used as a compression spacer.
FIGJAM wrote:I wondered how you could guy the end arches without them slipping off.
Put a X connector instead of a T where the spine goes into the end arches and run a rope THROUGH the length of the spine.
Tension the ends to the ground stakes and the spine could'nt come apart.