fraulein wrote: stretch80 wrote:
Dr. Pyro wrote:Am I the only one who believes that this is a recipe for disaster?
No Dr, you are not the only one.
If they had good support on-playa, and they had on-road support, and they were experienced at long bike trips - I would still think it was risky, but not really object.
I do not get the sense that any of my criteria are being met.
Plus, she is a virgin. so no clue as to how harsh the burn will be on her. Biking home after a burn?? um, bad idea - poor plan.
I love when people refer to me in third person... I appreciate all of your positive support, really. Seriously, though, I was kind of looking for real advice...so if you have any of that instead of simply shutting me down that would be a little more helpful. I know it's easy and fun to pick on the new guy in town but it seems like you were all first time burners at one point no? I'm ready and deserving of hazing when I get there, but let's wait till we meet in person.
The reality is that we DO have experience with long bike tours as well as on-road and on-playa support. Parents and friends and parents of friends going. Never ridden in a desert but thats part of the adventure. Based on the burners I know and love, I kind of thought this was a community about growth, support, and new ideas. Or am I wrong here? And I also thought that the point is that everyone brings new creative energy to this event...so why are you all shitting on my parade right now? Not getting it....
I respect you presenting the harsh reality but like I said, REAL ADVICE PLEASE
Eplaya is a odd mixture of snark and useful information.
Since you mentioned that you were a virgin burner, you have read the survival guide?? http://survival.burningman.com/
Portland has a large burner community. I am not sure if there is a community in Eugene. I suggest you contact your local burner group (in Portland if necessary) and make some contacts. It is very useful to you if you make the effort. I am certain that your logistics of attending Burning Man will be lot easier with local support.
I know a couple burners who bicycled from central Canada (Saskatchewan) to Vancouver BC and then down to Burning Man from there (5000Km). They had support along the way (at various communities). When they arrived in BRC we had them camp with us. All of their supplies were ready. They did have a awesome time at the burn but were exhausted quite a bit of the time. I know they were thankful that they didn't have to bike home.
* Bicycle security - bring a good lock and lock your bike whenever you are not riding it.
* You might be able to get a local burner to bring some water & food for you and maybe camp near them and share shade.
I cannot stress the usefulness of local burner contacts.
You have biking experience, which I have great respect for. (I have MS and cannot do that any more) So, that means you can deal with any breakdowns on your biking gear? Do you have a bike trailer for your stuff? Tent? Warm sleeping bag (It can and does get below freezing), warm clothes for night?
Your burn will benefit from excessive planning. Your appetite will probably be lower than usual due to the heat. So, you probably do not need as much food. You can buy ice in BRC so, if you have a cooler you will be able to keep food/drinks cool. I usually live off of either boil-pack food or canned (since I have no desire to deal with the possibility of food going bad).
Some replies might have used the phrase "Radical Self Reliance", I take that to mean being as prepared and self-reliant as possible. Planning, preparation, food/water/shelter, dust masks & goggles at all times, etc. Sure shit happens and you might need help - but you don't want to be that gal that has to be helped for everything (aka: overdependant, helpless mooch) Again, local contacts can help you make this happen. (If I lived as close as you, I would be happy to haul some extra water and food (for cost) - so I am certain that will work itself out.)
Early admission to Burning Man is usually given to artists, theme camps and staff (DPW, PGE, etc) to help get the city set up. Usually these passes are issued to people who have demonstrated that they are reliable and capable. Perhaps you can get in touch with some Oregon theme camps and get on their crew. If that happens, you would be able to beat the major rush (although there seems to be a steady stream of traffic the whole week up to the gate opening).
How long do you think it would take to travel to BRC?
um, about referring to you in third party... It is not always clear if an eplayan is a boy or girl, so I sometimes regress to "they". I'm a sometimes surley, Canadian Prairie boy. .. It was not my intention to offend you with that post.
Sometimes we see a post on here about a plan to get to burning man that is not well though out and the poster is un-open to any useful suggestions. So, the first response is to shoot them down. If, they stay on and dont give up - the poster starts to get useful info.
Perhaps you might find some answers on google: aka search with "eplay travelling light" or "eplaya flying in where do I camp" etc.
Oh, It looks like Oregon has two official Burning Man Regional groups: http://regionals.burningman.com/us_or.html
Please contact them. (My local regional group makes all my burns so much easier with their support and guidance)
Have fun, bike safe, light yourself up like a christmas tree..