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What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Jgladdy » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:54 pm

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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Simon of the Playa » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:58 pm

they are up my ass.




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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby catinthefunnyhat » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:59 pm

trilobyte wrote:The change in maximum population (from the initially proposed 58K) was to accommodate a change in the way BLM accounted for staff and support personnel on the playa. There will be no additional tickets going on sale for this year's event.



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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Simon of the Playa » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:02 pm

"Usually at least 6,000 leave before we hit the peak. Sometimes more on dusty, wet, or cold years,



wait a second wait a second...


so, if it's REALLY SHITTY on monday tuesday wednesday, then there might be 6000 USED tickets leaving the Gate?



i smell a birgin-ing market in re-sells.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby lemur » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:03 pm

STEVEN JONES IS A DOUCHE NOZZLE WHO PLUGS HIS SHITTY BOOK AT EVERY CHANCE.. HIS SFBG BURNING MAN STUFF ISNT WORTH READING...
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:03 pm

so, if it's REALLY SHITTY on monday tuesday wednesday, then there might be 6000 USED tickets leaving the Gate?



i smell a birgin-ing market in re-sells.



shut up!


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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby vargaso » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:19 pm

lemur wrote:STEVEN JONES IS A DOUCHE NOZZLE WHO PLUGS HIS SHITTY BOOK AT EVERY CHANCE.. HIS SFBG BURNING MAN STUFF ISNT WORTH READING...


He does like to plug his books (although he managed not to do that in this article), however, he's been pretty damn accurate in most of his BM reporting. The bit about the possibility of more tickets being made available is coming straight from Maid Marian herself, unless Jones is completely misquoting her. I'm willing to bet it does happen, mostly because if it's being shot down on eplaya, it means it must be true.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Tanzremix » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:23 pm

vargaso wrote:The bit about the possibility of more tickets being made available is coming straight from Maid Marian herself, unless Jones is completely misquoting her. I'm willing to bet it does happen, mostly because if it's being shot down on eplaya, it means it must be true.


Aha, somebody sees whats going on here :wink:
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby 5280MeV » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:25 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:they are up my ass.




ass price or fuck off....


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"No father." Theon smirked as he answered, "I paid the ass price."
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Simon of the Playa » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:27 pm

(although he managed not to do that in this article)




wrong.


Guardian City Editor Steven T. Jones is the author of The Tribes of Burning Man: How an Experimental City in the Desert is Shaping the New American Counterculture.



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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby BBadger » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:28 pm

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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby vargaso » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:30 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:
(although he managed not to do that in this article)




wrong.


Guardian City Editor Steven T. Jones is the author of The Tribes of Burning Man: How an Experimental City in the Desert is Shaping the New American Counterculture.



he plugged it, he ALWAYS plugs it...


Ah, in the byline. Sneaky. He usually works it into the main article somehow. I stand corrected on that part.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Eric » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:12 pm

vargaso wrote:The bit about the possibility of more tickets being made available is coming straight from Maid Marian herself, unless Jones is completely misquoting her. I'm willing to bet it does happen, mostly because if it's being shot down on eplaya, it means it must be true.


It's a pretty cagey "maybe":
Now that BRC has received a high population cap, it could conceivably sell more tickets to this year's event, something Goodell said the board will consider, weighing that against the imperative of staying under the population cap this year. “The board needs to talk about what the ramifications of that are. There is a lot of demand out there,” Goodell told us.


Also note the part about how the event could be shut down if it goes over the population cap again. I know I wouldn't risk my event over that, not sure if the board will.

As always, so glad it's not my call.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Simon of the Playa » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:31 pm

so, if the world markets collapse as simultaneously Japan suffers yet another major earthquake and subsequent catasphrophe in the Tokai region say around, june29th-July 8th of this year then all bets are off**?


just a thought... :twisted:


**this conjecture has no basis in fact.

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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:33 pm

boy, it's a damn good thing you're going off grid soon.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby H.G.Crosby » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:35 pm

shut up cassandra before you get us ALL in deep shit.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby DrYes » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:37 pm

5280MeV wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:they are up my ass.




ass price or fuck off....


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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:42 pm

DrYes wrote:
5280MeV wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:they are up my ass.




ass price or fuck off....


Lord Balon Greyjoy looked disdainfully at the Burning Man 2012 ticket in his son Theon's hand. "Answer me son," he sneered, "Did you pay the gold price for that ticket, or did you pay the iron price?"

"No father." Theon smirked as he answered, "I paid the ass price."


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That could end up like those rats in that experiment pushing the pleasure center button...
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby trilobyte » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:54 pm

Kudos to Steven Jones for keeping his book credit in the byline, as opposed to the usual shilling with links to buy in the body of the article.

My understanding is that the increase in numbers isn't just the BLM saying "we love you guys, we want to let you sell 2900 more tickets!" but part of an ongoing negotiation over the counting of various support/staff personnel (including all the outside vendors, etc). Personally I'd like to see any additional that can be spared being fed into STEP.

Stay tuned for more info in an upcoming blog post & JRS.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby vargaso » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:34 pm

trilobyte wrote:Kudos to Steven Jones for keeping his book credit in the byline, as opposed to the usual shilling with links to buy in the body of the article.

My understanding is that the increase in numbers isn't just the BLM saying "we love you guys, we want to let you sell 2900 more tickets!" but part of an ongoing negotiation over the counting of various support/staff personnel (including all the outside vendors, etc). Personally I'd like to see any additional that can be spared being fed into STEP.

Stay tuned for more info in an upcoming blog post & JRS.


Agreed that if the BMORG decides to release more tickets, they should go into STEP. It's a fact that they now CAN sell more tickets. It's pretty clear it's a decision between not releasing more tickets to safely stay under the new and improved population cap, or, risking that by releasing more tickets. As someone who has yet to get the hallowed STEP email, I'd be happy if they did release more, but would understand if they didn't.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby BBadger » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:48 pm

This hard cap is probably to set a precedent. I get the feeling the event overstepped its bounds a bit last year and possibly the year before. The 2011 permit decision was worded as a maximum constraint, instead of try-to-manage-below 50,000 in 2010 and earlier.

I'm glad they've made the hard cap explicit though. The vague wording in previous permits was open to interpretation, and this defines set population caps to not be exceeded under any circumstances.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby kiss-o-matic » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:37 pm

Eric wrote:Also note the part about how the event could be shut down if it goes over the population cap again. I know I wouldn't risk my event over that, not sure if the board will.


Not to challenge anyone, but how would you (logistically) shut down an event with just under 60,000 raging participants in a remote location?

so, if the world markets collapse as simultaneously Japan suffers yet another major earthquake and subsequent catasphrophe in the Tokai region say around, june29th-July 8th of this year then all bets are off


Heyheyheyhey.... some of us are sensitive to that. :)

Before the Touhoku quake everyone was happy with the 70% chance within the next 30 years of a Toukai quake. After 3/11 it's suddenly shrunk down to like 70% in 8 years or something. :/

Make no mistake though... global depression will follow. Japan has redefined "all eggs in one basket" and nobody seems to be bothered in the least of last year's debacle.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby catinthefunnyhat » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:39 pm

Buses, riot cops, and detention centres. Same way they shut down protests.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby trilobyte » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:41 pm

Please see the blog post regarding the BLM Permit approval, and stay tuned to the JRS for info on how any additional tickets will be made available.
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Re: What happens to the additional tickets?

Postby Eric » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:09 pm

kiss-o-matic wrote:
Eric wrote:Also note the part about how the event could be shut down if it goes over the population cap again. I know I wouldn't risk my event over that, not sure if the board will.


Not to challenge anyone, but how would you (logistically) shut down an event with just under 60,000 raging participants in a remote location?


Bad phrasing on my part- we're on probation and if we go over the cap again the BLM may not allow the event to happen again on the playa (or anywhere under their control). They wouldn't "shut down" this years event, they would could "shut down" the event permanently after this year for excess population.
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