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Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby homo ardentum » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:44 pm

The latest Environmental Assessment for the 2012 permit is now out and it has some interesting info about the water source for dust suppression. The event’s identified water source is Fly Ranch in Hualapai Valley, approximately eight to 10 miles west/northwest of the event site. This source is a thermal, continually flowing artesian source; water is taken from a reservoir down-gradient from the actual surface expression. The Fly Ranch water source has been used in previous years, in accordance with water transfer certificates issued by the State water authority to Black Rock City LLC to allow for application of this water on the event site. The applicant contracts for six million gallons of water. They've done some water quality testing and found the following:

Table 3.11-1. Primary MCLs for Drinking Water – Fly Ranch Water Quality Results
Constituent Fly Ranch Water Source

Total Coliform 1,732.9 mg / 100 mL
Escherichia Coli (e. Coli) 11.0 mg / 100 mL
Fluoride 8.4 mg/L

So when you're running naked behind those water trucks, keep your mouth (and other orifices) closed!
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby lemur » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:38 pm

if i did my math right.. heres this from april...

lemur wrote:read more about the source and whats in the water carried by the water trucks here:

https://www.blm.gov/epl-front-office/pr ... 007-EA.pdf

section 3-21 'fly ranch water source' page 61 of 328

Total Coliform in fly ranch source: 1,732.9mg / 100 mL Max for drinking water: 0.0mg/Liter
E. Coli in Fly Ranch source: 11mg / 100 mL Max for drinking water: 0.0mg/Liter


the same document claims that the LLC contracts for six million gallons of water.

that equals out to 5,507.9 pounds of E. Coli bacteria spread on to the playa each year at burning man.


kinda makes you think twice about eating from that dusty pan, doesnt it?!
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby lemur » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:39 pm

its probably better you dont get sprayed behind the water trucks at all.

i wouldnt..

thats the last place you want to get sick.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby AntiM » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:51 pm

We saw three hippie boys running behind the water truck with jugs, trying to fill them. They were pushed out by landgrabbers, so we never saw the end result.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby aknod » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:12 pm

5500 lbs of coliform and we worry about grey water??
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby jkisha » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:18 pm

Nothing much new here.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Turtleburp » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:32 pm

That sounds like an odd metric for coliforms, could that be number vs mass?
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Bob » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:26 pm

Is there such a thing as Histrionic Community <drink> Disorder?
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Elliot » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:48 pm

jkisha wrote:Nothing much new here.

Yes, very old news, but we do need to inform the birgins. I avoid freshly watered streets altogether. Frankly, I'm surprised the Fly Ranch water is allowed -- imagine the disaster if a major E Coli outbreak took place in the crowded BRC.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:11 pm

For that to happen, some hippie would have to "shower", prepare food, feed it to lots of people, and then it might have to be magnified somehow. The combination of uv light and the alkaline playa is going to take care of huge amounts of the e.coli. I wouldn't chase the water truck, but let's not overstate the danger either....
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Elliot » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:17 pm

OK.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Bob » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:32 pm

Doesn't include the dead critters that were swimming in the non-potable water trucks in the first place.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby trilobyte » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:12 pm

You don't need to read the environmental assessment to know not to drink the water spraying out of a truck with a big sign on it saying non-potable. Do you?
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby ygmir » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:50 pm

trilobyte wrote:You don't need to read the environmental assessment to know not to drink the water spraying out of a truck with a big sign on it saying non-potable. Do you?


I saw a sign in Montana once that said not to screw the sheep..........
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Savannah » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:55 pm

ygmir wrote:
trilobyte wrote:You don't need to read the environmental assessment to know not to drink the water spraying out of a truck with a big sign on it saying non-potable. Do you?


I saw a sign in Montana once that said not to screw the sheep..........


Those are more like . . . guidelines.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby ygmir » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:57 pm

Savannah wrote:
ygmir wrote:
trilobyte wrote:You don't need to read the environmental assessment to know not to drink the water spraying out of a truck with a big sign on it saying non-potable. Do you?


I saw a sign in Montana once that said not to screw the sheep..........


Those are more like . . . guidelines.


like traffic signs in Asia.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby BBadger » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:10 am

If you're drinking or bathing in gray water, what the fuck do you expect?
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby ygmir » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:29 am

it would be so funny to put pictures of Darwin on the back of the water trucks............
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Ugly Dougly » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:16 am

ygmir wrote:
Savannah wrote:
ygmir wrote:(Trilo's text deleted.)
I saw a sign in Montana once that said not to screw the sheep..........


Those are more like . . . guidelines.


like traffic signs in Asia.


The lines in the road, they are decorations, yes?

BTW, don't people jump into the pools at fly Ranch with glee?
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby 48_love » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:23 am

trilobyte wrote:You don't need to read the environmental assessment to know not to drink the water spraying out of a truck with a big sign on it saying non-potable. Do you?


Not when it so easily put into a pot ... all it takes is someone saying I can't do something, and I'll show them!

Non-potable, pfft.

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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby knowmad » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:36 am

Lemur agian makes a blotch of Science.
As Fishy pointed out, the UV alone renders the ecoli dead as soon as the water dries.
eating out of a dusty pan? sure no different than the dust you breathe.

Virgins need info not speculation from the really bad at logic camps.

and as Trillo said. "Why the hell would you drink something that says not potable water."

Grapefruit seed extract (Sold at GNC, healthfood's) is a very effective microbiocide and for those with a delicate digestion or compromised immune system a bit of caution can be better than the shits.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Bob » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:49 am

knowmad wrote:Lemur agian makes a blotch of Science.
As Fishy pointed out, the UV alone renders the ecoli dead as soon as the water dries.
eating out of a dusty pan? sure no different than the dust you breathe.

Virgins need info not speculation from the really bad at logic camps.

and as Trillo said. "Why the hell would you drink something that says not potable water."

Grapefruit seed extract (Sold at GNC, healthfood's) is a very effective microbiocide and for those with a delicate digestion or compromised immune system a bit of caution can be better than the shits.


Right On and Namaste, dude. I get all my Science at GNC.




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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby BBadger » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:40 am

^-- THIS
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby lemur » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:11 pm

knowmad wrote:Lemur agian makes a blotch of Science.
As Fishy pointed out, the UV alone renders the ecoli dead as soon as the water dries.
eating out of a dusty pan? sure no different than the dust you breathe.

Virgins need info not speculation from the really bad at logic camps.




yer an overly pedantic fool

an obvious non serious joking rhetorical question tagged at the end of back of the napkin math is in no way serious info for virgins.. or in any way speculation

but hey! at least ...youve one upped with silly GNC bullshit that actually DID pose as info for virgins.

ppls be taking shit way too seriously in this thread
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby illy dilly » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:06 pm

lemur wrote:
ppls be taking shit way too seriously in this thread

I think shits pretty serious!

The last thing we need is few thousand virgins running around not taking shit seriously. They'll really muck up the place. Then we can really talk about people getting sick.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Bob » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:01 pm

All we need is for the water trucks to brake harder and more often.

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Spilled polymer emulsion is very slippery. Use care to avoid falls. A film will form on drying. Remove saturated clothing and wash contacted skin area with soap and water. Product imparts a milky white color to contaminated waters. Foaming may result. Sewage treatment plants may not be able to remove the white color imparted to the water.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Sail Man » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:02 pm

ygmir wrote:
trilobyte wrote:You don't need to read the environmental assessment to know not to drink the water spraying out of a truck with a big sign on it saying non-potable. Do you?


I saw a sign in Montana once that said not to screw the sheep..........


Yet you still didn't listen :P
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby VultureChow » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:23 pm



As always, I forget we can't embed with time stamps.

Sigh. 3:59 was what I intended.
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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Bob » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:43 pm

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Re: Don't shower with your mouth open

Postby Bob » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:46 pm

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