Black Rock Island, anyone?

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Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby korgath » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:40 am

I have been a Burner for 4 years now. This year will be my 5th Burn.
I think sparking ideas in the community will be the best way to get the event to continue to grow. I want to share my ideas and hopefully get discussion going on ways that we can expand.

I feel Burning Man has seemingly outgrown Black Rock city. We need to find a way to expand beyond the border of the Black Rock desert. I think this can be done by purchasing an island.

I imagine BMORG purchasing a desert island off the coast somewhere. We could then use that land to host our city and event.
The island should be deserted with no indigenous people. Lush plant and animal life is necessary since us Burners are used to the barren lake bed.
According to http://www.privateislandsonline.com/ there are numerous islands that are available for sale.

If necessary BMORG, couple build some permanent infrastructure like a seaport and an airport.
I think it would be essential for the growth and maintenance of the community to have as little permanent infrastructure as possible so there is room to development adapt and change and the community continues to grow.

The event could still embody leave no trace. Everything could be packed in and taken out by the participants of the event.

I think we have a large enough community that participants could develop transportation plans.

What are your thoughts?
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:46 am

I think the logistics would be much more difficult than you think. First getting across the country to near the island, then getting from the gigantic car park, unpacking your stuff from the car then packing it back up again on a boat and going across water and unpacking your stuff again when you get off. Transportation will actually be more difficult and more of a bottleneck than it is now. We've already out grown that island. How many people do the NYC and Seattle ferries move in a week? How much infrastructure does that take? What is the cost?

And that's before some drunk or high person starts climbing cliffs or falling into the water...
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:56 am

it'd all be solvable, Fishy, with a fleet of Simon's "hover bikes"........
maybe we could train ex-Navy dolphins as "water sherpas" to get our stuff across, and, get a contingent of Mormons to pray for pelicans, to bring extra water in those big beak sacks?

Of course, it'd be all vegan cuisine, except for "New Guinea native night".

and we could have a "Lord of the Flies" night, too!!!
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby motskyroonmatick » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:58 am

Sounds like a great regional!!!!!
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:04 pm

motskyroonmatick wrote:Sounds like a great regional!!!!!


San Juan Island!! we can re-enanct the "Pig war" with our Canukian and British friends!!!
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby motskyroonmatick » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:48 pm

ygmir wrote:
motskyroonmatick wrote:Sounds like a great regional!!!!!


San Juan Island!! we can re-enanct the "Pig war" with our Canukian and British friends!!!


I'll bring Golficus Carticus. I'll need a gunner and a navigator/throttle operator.

Javelina beware! We're coming for you!
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:03 pm

motskyroonmatick wrote:
ygmir wrote:
motskyroonmatick wrote:Sounds like a great regional!!!!!


San Juan Island!! we can re-enanct the "Pig war" with our Canukian and British friends!!!


I'll bring Golficus Carticus. I'll need a gunner and a navigator/throttle operator.

Javelina beware! We're coming for you!


I'm good with a gun!!
but throttle operator? ha!! Wide Fucking Open, baby.........we're charging, not slowing down.
just wire it WFO and steer!!!

Look out, you British rabble, we're taking San Juan Island back!!

wait, uh, I think its ours already....well, good cheer anyway.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby motskyroonmatick » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:26 pm

Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:54 pm

motskyroonmatick wrote:Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.


and the other hand, then, does what?
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Elliot » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:01 pm

Well, now I'm disappointed. Korgath posted at 11:40, and it's now 14:00 and STILL nobody has replied with...

"De plane! De plane!"

You guys are slipping.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:09 pm

oh good, the midget is here!!!

but, considering that individual, islands and such, will someone need a third nipple?
Simon? Scaramanga?
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Elliot » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:25 pm

Such a nice rainy day.... I'm enjoying looking at funny sh*t on the interweb....

Seasteading

Ephemerisle

"Overloaded boat" on Google Images

Joe Hazelwood

Cruise ship near island off the coast of Italy

Kevin Costner and Water World

... ...
:D
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:53 pm

Elliot wrote:Such a nice rainy day.... I'm enjoying looking at funny sh*t on the interweb....

Seasteading

Ephemerisle

"Overloaded boat" on Google Images

Joe Hazelwood

Cruise ship near island off the coast of Italy

Kevin Costner and Water World

... ...
:D


tell me you're not sitting there naked, Elliot.....please tell me that.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Elliot » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:00 pm

While I try to think of a snappy reply to that, I have this picture that somehow came to mind after reading the original post. No real relevance -- I just have not had an opportunity to use it for a while.

Image

by my all time favorite artist, Stan Mott.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby gyre » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:27 pm

There are some big islands on the mississippi available.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby motskyroonmatick » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:35 pm

ygmir wrote:
motskyroonmatick wrote:Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.


and the other hand, then, does what?


Clarification: The driver steers with one hand and the other hand holds an ever dwindling beverage that can be replenished from the on board cooler. Due to the fast pace the driver must at least steer. :D
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:05 pm

motskyroonmatick wrote:
ygmir wrote:
motskyroonmatick wrote:Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.


and the other hand, then, does what?


Clarification: The driver steers with one hand and the other hand holds an ever dwindling beverage that can be replenished from the on board cooler. Due to the fast pace the driver must at least steer. :D


ok, thanks..........I was having questions, and not pretty pictures*, in my head.

depending on anyones POV of course
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:33 pm

Elliot wrote:While I try to think of a snappy reply to that...

How about, "Huh. I'm Norwegian. Everybody on eplaya knows that Norwegian are against nudity.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Elliot » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:47 pm

*searching Google Images for picture of a boat heavily overloaded with Norwegian nudists near a desert island*

(Did I include all necessary elements?)
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:45 pm

Elliot wrote:*searching Google Images for picture of a boat heavily overloaded with Norwegian nudists near a desert island*

(Did I include all necessary elements?)

try:
"sexy vikings invade Gilligans Island"
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby korgath » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:16 pm

Ok, so transportation out there would be a total pain in the ass.

We will just also need air planes that dump out sky divers, ferrys to take the cars, and a battleship on tank treads to take everyone across the ocean.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Elliot » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:38 pm

Korgath, I'm afraid we neglected to welcome you to ePlaya. Welcome! All ideas have potential. And thinking "outside the box" is specially valuable -- and valued around here.

It's just that some ideas are simply not practical. And the crossing of water seems to me -- and apparently to several of us -- to be the very "poster boy" of impracticality for our purpose.

Feel free to prove us wrong.

And again, welcome to ePlaya!
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Savannah » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:38 pm

ygmir wrote:
motskyroonmatick wrote:
motskyroonmatick wrote:Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.


ygmir wrote:and the other hand, then, does what?


Clarification: The driver steers with one hand and the other hand holds an ever dwindling beverage that can be replenished from the on board cooler. Due to the fast pace the driver must at least steer. :D


ygmir wrote:ok, thanks..........I was having questions, and not pretty pictures*, in my head.

depending on anyones POV of course


I assure you that it's a very natural and beautiful part of the desert biosphere . . . the flowing tide of Tecate. The roar of the Throttle. The smell of Danger. The barking of C187.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby motskyroonmatick » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:10 pm

:D
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby robbidobbs » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:15 pm

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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Elliot » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:36 pm

Savannah wrote:...the flowing tide of Tecate.

The flow of... WHAT???


































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Next you'll forget about Bacon, eh? We need to break all these burgins in right, Savannah!

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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby DaveyJones » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:51 pm

ah. the food pyramid: solid foundation of bacon, then cheese in the middle, with PRB at the top. that there's whats for dinner
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby BBadger » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:15 am

The fact that you had to list how many years you have attended--as the first sentence of your post no less--instantly discredits your entire post.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Ugly Dougly » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:38 am

Let me know when you're ready to sell tickets for this fine event.
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Re: Black Rock Island, anyone?

Postby Timezone LaFontaine » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:18 pm

All I want to know about this island is, will we be able to hunt man on it?
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