BBadger wrote:I find it pretty ironic that some of you conclude that "birgin" is an abused term, while at the same time you have no problem tossing around the word "spectator" as if it had some objective meaning. Let me ask you something:
If these "spectators" are such a menace, who do we cut?
Is someone still a "spectator" because they only brought shit for their own camp? Sure that dude hauled in all the camp's tent infrastructure on their trailer. They really pulled their weight for the camp! But who else benefited besides the camp members?
If "participation" means you need to affect others outside your camp, what if they brought a bottle of vodka for their public bar, are they now "contributors" and not "spectators"?
What about someone who shows up in their Honda and a tent, no camp, and yet does some cool belly dancing in some remote part of the playa for only a few people? Is that enough? Or does it, you know, have to affect more than a certain arbitrary number of people?
Are they theme camp participants? Is that it? Because we never had our camp elevated to "theme camp" status, but we had some neat shit that was open for others to participate in. Even a MV--one anybody could get on. We did try to do our best, but still not a theme camp. So we're out? Or no?
Is a participant someone who makes a MV only they can ride in? They did go through all that work, and it looks nice, but who else gets to ride it?
What about the people who have big speakers. Are you a "participant" because you chose to blare your crappy dubstep into the neighborhood? Certainly many people got to "participate" in your music.
What about the people who spent a lot of time on their own costumes, but not much else? A pretty sparklepony with a cool costume. Is that a spectator, or a participant?
Is it about what skills you brought to the playa? What if you're some raver burgin, but you're good at braiding peoples' hair. So you braid peoples' hair and they're pretty happy about that. You didn't bring anything but yourself and your handiwork. Does that meet the bar?
Or is it about giving away shit? Like some dude riding around giving darktards lights, is that guy really cutting it? He's giving away relatively cheap manufactured shit, and probably just doing it to meet girls, but hell, he gave away shit! Is he meeting the "participant" bar?
So what is the "standard" here?
You must be into steampunk and yelling witty things like "Fuck yer day!" If you meet those criteria, you're in!