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Postby Openmndhlr » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:42 pm

Hey Burners!!
We are an amazing, strong, progressive group of evolved individuals and there are souls fighting for world solidarity all over this country right now. How can we band together and help? What can we do to support this shift and support these incredible people? The change they're asking for is the energy that Burning Man embodies each year for thousands of us! Let us help them create this in the lives of everybody, everyday!
So... what can we do?
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Postby jkisha » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:48 pm

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Postby ygmir » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:11 pm

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Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:27 pm

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Postby BBadger » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:30 pm

Such an irony that the OP would call upon people participating in an arts festival that is practically an altar of consumerism to join up in this hippie-esque protest against day-traders. About the only thing I'd protest for is against potential suppression of freedom of speech, but I'm not sure if this level of disruption really qualifies.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:38 pm

C'MON, GET WITH THE THEME !!!
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Postby Raymaker » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:48 am

I heard that the BM organizers are going to propose that Wall Street for the new BM site next year, the police will be providing the trash fence.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:49 am

YES!!!


FINALLY THE REGIONALS WILL HAVE RELEVANCE!!!
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DIBBS!

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:50 am

i got dibbs on burning cleveland.
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Postby can't sit still » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:16 am

This is related to this topic,,, if true;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp-eapYp ... r_embedded
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Postby Zulegoona » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:19 am

It kind of is like a theme, except more general to be as inclusive as possible. Each gathering in whatever city can define what issues they have with the way things are and the direction they are going.

In most places it seems people are getting fed up with the way corporate greed and control of our supposed democratic government has become more blatant about shifting the wealth of the common working man into their own accounts. So campaign finance reform is an issue. As is the corporate backed anti-unionism, Cuts in education spending because a dumber America is easier to manipulate and people with a mountain of debt from school have to be good toadies or loss everything.

It’s about the banks getting the deregulation they lobbied for so their runaway greed could cripple the economy, then in an attempt to avoid a worldwide economic collapse receiving bail out money, and no interest loans that they use to provide those responsible with big bonuses.

It’s about stopping the commodification of people and the desire to put the welfare of people and the planet over profits. Our relentless move towards a two class society the 1% rich and the 99% rest of use toiling in servitude is a big one for a lot of folks.

It’s about people realizing that uncontrolled capitalism might be raising the tide for a few but the rest of us are in sinking boats. And so much more, Yes there are some hippie-esque tree huggers and animal rights people involved as well as labor unions, veterans for peace, first responders, teachers, healthcare workers, and people who just care about their fellow Americans and are tired of seeing them taken advantage of.

In a way it’s like Burning Man, The people make the event, Occupy everywhere is about reasserting the knowledge that America can be a great place because it’s the people that make the country, and we the 99% want to be able to enjoy the party not just be server at it.
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Yup!

Postby Simon of the Playa » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:21 am

ZULEGOONA FOR PRESIDENT!
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Re: DIBBS!

Postby Sail Man » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:53 am

Roberto Dobbisano wrote:i got dibbs on burning cleveland.


I'd call dibbs on Detroit, but they do very good on their own

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Postby Packoderm » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:56 am

Zulegoona wrote:...and we the 99% want to be able to enjoy the party not just be server at it.


That's a pretty radical idea.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:58 am

i cant wait to see the ticket artwork for THIS year...
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Postby Sic Pup » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:24 am

I've been playing with the idea of going down and checking it out and maybe joining in but it sounds like a mish mash of issues and I'm not sure it's demonstrating anything but how to make a nuisance of oneself without a clearly defined agenda (although I'm quite adept at that... or so I've been told).

I'm also reluctant to have potentially 4 NYC cops put in the awkward position of having to bust their uncle/god father.

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700 arrested disrupting traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge.

I can understand the authorities position on this, after all who the hell wants to buy a bridge with 700 stinky hippies on it?
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:32 am

COPPIN' A FEEL?
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Postby MOOP_Nazi » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:43 am

Interesting...



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Postby ygmir » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:50 am

I think at times what hurts "the cause" is a certain number of folks, within said crowd, who just want to "stir it up", become confrontational and create the "scene"......which then escalates.
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Postby MOOP_Nazi » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:53 am

Yikes...

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Postby MOOP_Nazi » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:57 am

ygmir wrote:I think at times what hurts "the cause" is a certain number of folks, within said crowd, who just want to "stir it up", become confrontational and create the "scene"......which then escalates.


Did you watch the video Yg?

I was looking for that exact thing. I am usually the first in line to look at the crowd before LEO response because there is a tendency to blame authority without accepting responsibility.. I didnt see it here. To have a LEO walk up, unholster pepper spray, let loose and then simply walk away id very disturbing and is indicative of "police action" moreso than "police response"

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Postby Sic Pup » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:58 am

Nice video..... do they know they are equipped to shoot down aircraft?
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Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:00 am

BBadger wrote:Such an irony that the OP would call upon people participating in an arts festival that is practically an altar of consumerism to join up in this hippie-esque protest against day-traders.

I admit that it was very awkwardly done, and that the op had huge expectations about our politics and interest. And had no idea that most of use get Da Mulish when expected to go in a particular direction, but Zule and Simon can count me as another supporter.
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Postby jkisha » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:03 am

This movement will grow--the timing is right.

But, they also need to get a whole lot more organized and settle on one or two demands that can be easily captured by the press in a sound bite. The manifesto they finally released includes everything but the kitchen sink. They are trying too hard to appease every perceived oppressed group whether real or imagined. They need to keep it focused more to the grievances of the middle class by emphasizing the effects of corporate and wall street greed and how this is effecting their standard of living and the well being of their families.
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Postby MOOP_Nazi » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:07 am

jkisha wrote:This movement will grow--the timing is right.

But, they also need to get a whole lot more organized and settle on one or two demands that can be easily captured by the press in a sound bite. The manifesto they finally released includes everything but the kitchen sink. They are trying too hard to appease every perceived oppressed group whether real or imagined. They need to keep it focused more to the grievances of the middle class by emphasizing the effects of corporate and wall street greed and how this is effecting their standard of living and the well being of their families.


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Postby ygmir » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:11 am

MOOP_Nazi wrote:
ygmir wrote:I think at times what hurts "the cause" is a certain number of folks, within said crowd, who just want to "stir it up", become confrontational and create the "scene"......which then escalates.


Did you watch the video Yg?

I was looking for that exact thing. I am usually the first in line to look at the crowd before LEO response because there is a tendency to blame authority without accepting responsibility.. I didnt see it here. To have a LEO walk up, unholster pepper spray, let loose and then simply walk away id very disturbing and is indicative of "police action" moreso than "police response"

Just saying...


yes, I did. with great interest, in fact.
I totally agree, the appearance of "police action", is very real.
I guess, experience has shown (to me), that in any large scale protest like that, that my statement holds true.
I'm not saying much of what was filmed is not blatant brutality.
I'd also submit, much is not filmed,and, may make a difference.
I just don't see things like that as "clear cut".
I've been on both sides of those circumstances. I've seen asshats on both sides, too.

Mostly, it points out the incivility we are progressing towards, as a society.
No real care for our "fellows" unless they are part of our "group".

A cop is hit with a rock, or bottle, or something, for standing protecting some store front or whatever, during a protest. they have done nothing, to anyone.

A protester, is maced, and beaten, for voicing their opinion, cussing and pointing their middle finger. They have done nothing, to anyone.

both are in uniform, and identified by the others, as such.
Both, are judged, by said uniform, and actions taken, based thereon.

*uniform can be cops suits, helmets and shields, or tye dye, dreads, and patchouli, for this example*

I don't see a lot of difference.
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Postby MOOP_Nazi » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:16 am

I think one of the most telling images is of the young woman holding a sign saying "I am a NURSE! Not a Hippy!"

That speaks volumes...
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