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Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby euthlogo » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:12 am

Hey all!

I am a hopeful future Burner who wants to bring something great to the Playa, so I have been thinking out possibilities for art pieces to bring to the 2012 burn.

Does anyone know a good way to panel a geodesic dome with glass? Would it be welding? Caulk?

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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby lemur » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:11 am

why would you do such a thing?

youd be creating a greenhouse or somethin like it.. itll be way hot!


how do you intend to cool it?
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby Turnip » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:32 am

That just sounds dangerous.


You can take every necessary measure to be sure the glass is secured, but that doesn't mean your neighbors' tent won't come flying outta nowhere and shatter the glass.
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby junglesmacks » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:42 am

How about using something else besides glass that's lighter, safer, cheaper and yet still colored and translucent? What about colored mylar or something?
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby Eric » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:43 am

3 Reasons why not to cover a dome with glass:

    1) It will become an Easy-bake oven in the midday sun

    2) Huge MOOP potential- winds can hit 70 mph (that's a category 1 hurricane)- all it take is one thing flying into it to shatter it

    3) The "shatter factor"- do you really want to sit under a glass dome put up by amateurs hoping it doesn't fall & send you (or someone else) on an expensive medical helicopter to Reno?

I could go on- put it this way: the BMorg recommends against glass bottles out there, how do you think a whole dome would go over?
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby junglesmacks » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:46 am

+ the sheer cost alone. You're talking a loooooooooooooooot of money.

Eric wrote:3 Reasons why not to cover a dome with glass:

    1) It will become an Easy-bake oven in the midday sun

    2) Huge MOOP potential- winds can hit 70 mph (that's a category 1 hurricane)- all it take is one thing flying into it to shatter it

    3) The "shatter factor"- do you really want to sit under a glass dome put up by amateurs hoping it doesn't fall & send you (or someone else) on an expensive medical helicopter to Reno?

I could go on- put it this way: the BMorg recommends against glass bottles out there, how do you think a whole dome would go over?
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby some seeing eye » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:23 pm

Just handling the panels and erecting would be a weight nightmare. Worse, you should really be using relatively thick tempered glass.
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby Ugly Dougly » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:37 pm

That sounds so 2012. :)
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby Oldguy » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:32 pm

Scotty used tranparent aluminum to make that whale tank, remember?
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:58 pm

Explore the plexiglass option. Still too hot. What was Dickey's box made out of?

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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby euthlogo » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:03 am

Thanks for the replies all!

I know that there are a lot of things in the way of doing this, which is why I am thinking about it a year early and asking for advice.

My goal is to panel a dome with the exterior being reflective and the inside being heavily tinted, creating a one way mirror effect. I hope this will make for a somewhat disco ball looking dome from the outside, with a semi shaded area inside.

I foolishly hadn't thought about the heat that glass would generate, so I think that it is not the way to go as many of you have pointed out. The mylar option seems worth exploring though.

Has anyone had any experience with one way mirror treatment and a mylar type material?

Thanks again for the advice.

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Edit: just reread the responses, transparent aluminum seems fascinating as well. Are there any distributors that aren't the military?
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:52 am

Mylar or something like it would be a good choice.
A one-way mirror usually has plenty of tint. If you have vent at the top as well as the bottom, it will create its own airflow.
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby Eric » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:04 am

Transparent aluminum, it's not just for Star Trek anymore...

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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby euthlogo » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:59 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:Mylar or something like it would be a good choice.
A one-way mirror usually has plenty of tint. If you have vent at the top as well as the bottom, it will create its own airflow.


Great! Thanks so much for the advice.

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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:58 pm

You're welcome Tim. I'll be sitting this one out as well. :)
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby gyre » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:25 am

I've used reflective mylar before.
Think of it as a beam splitter.

There is a glass dome near me.
Welded steel.
Been there for many years.
Not too portable.

There are films that block or reflect infrared.
3M has a new one that is very tough and can block most heat without much tint.
They use it for hurricane proofing, anti-burglary, etc.
It can be used on windshields.

I'd suggest a reflective cover, rather than a see through one.

Silvicool, solid aluminet, reflectix, even mylar window film over an opaque surface.
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby Ugly Dougly » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:45 am

It might be interesting to have a dome full of people who think they're alone, but all the playa can see them from the outside. :)
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Re: Secure Glass to Geodesic Dome

Postby gyre » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:18 am

There have been some remote camera broadcasts, two way.
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