Drivel meter is off the scale

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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby jkisha » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:04 am

Preposterous! You're one of them there veterans that never have anything positive or useful to say here other than to harass and intimidate the new people
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby jkisha » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:13 am

Belittling inexperience, as if no-one's ever made stupid mistakes planning for their first year, is bullying.
:roll: Bullying. Another PC cause de jour. This is a BBS...sticks and stones, remember? This has now gone from the ridiculous to the sublime.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby marck » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:19 am

Kiro wrote:Belittling inexperience, as if no-one's ever made stupid mistakes planning for their first year, is bullying. This is all playa practice and if people don't like it then they shouldn't attend? More excuses from bullies trying to justify their shitty attitudes and behavior. You might say, like Jkisha, that new members should grow a backbone or fuck off, but isn't that the problem summed up right there? Radical rejection by an elitist few, who feel entitled to set the agenda. MODERATORS should be setting the agenda, and not giving a shit if someone is upset because their stupid trolling post was removed.


Kiro,

Are you implying that my observation is tantamount to bullying?
Are you implying that I have a shitty attitude?

I'm sorry but your broad sweeping generalization has just included me in your scapegoating.

Who are you to decide what role I play here?
Are you qualified to judge who is being a bully? If you are, then prove it to me before I consider anything else you have to say.

And I'm going to use a favourite phrase of the persona I use on the Playa:

    You are Wrong.
Moderators are not the privileged elite who get to set the agenda, it is the members of the community who do. The moderator's role is that of referee, not police. Those who cannot bring themselves to contribute are rewarded with the results of those that do.

One point you either overlooked, or ignored, is that you were told to fix it yourself. The weight of your opinion will be judged by your actions and not your criticisms.

And for your information, I am not a "white" male, being a "half-breed" I get the benefits of being excluded by both groups.
By the way I never made any stupid mistakes in my first year. My suit was fitted desert fashion because It seemed the proper way.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby Kiro » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:40 am

I might be wrong, but if I get upset and angry on a message board dedicated to the people and things I love most in the world, there's something wrong, with me perhaps, and what I was told is right, I shouldn't hang around if that's how I feel. I promise to do an amazing job on an faq.

marck wrote:And for your information, I am not a "white" male, being a "half-breed" I get the benefits of being excluded by both groups.
By the way I never made any stupid mistakes in my first year. My suit was fitted desert fashion because It seemed the proper way.


I never said anything about white males, that was someone else.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby marck » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:00 am

Sorry, I knew it was Igneouss and intended to direct it towards him, but that part of the text was forgotten when I posted.
The second line was for you.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby jkisha » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:21 am

And one more thing, as I like beating dead horses, but please don't confuse belittling stupidity for belittling inexperience. We don't belittle inexperience; there is a big difference.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby Bob » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:18 am

Furrfu.

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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby AntiM » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:39 am

marck is correct, moderators don't set "an agenda". We can call for polite responses rather than snark, but honestly, this is no private board for one or two people to run as they please. Don't think for a moment that the mods here are anything but eplayans who volunteer. We are not BMORG.

Have you herded cats using another person's vague written instructions? There's a reason I resigned (I know, it still says mod, I can't scrub it off).

Bullies?

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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby Bob » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:14 am

One man's drivel is another man's breakfast.

Open Discussion has 14% of the topics on the ePlaya, and five topics there hold 20% of the total bbs posts. None of them have much to do with Burning Man, nor are they required to have anything to do with Burning Man. Feel free to include that in your bitter little FAQ.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby jkisha » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:27 am

Actually, the more vague the instructions, the easier it is to heard the cats. Vagueness gives each moderator the latitude to do their job the way that they interpret the rules. What will BMORG do if they don't like your interpretation, fire you? Especially ironic considering you just resigned.
AntiM wrote:marck is correct, moderators don't set "an agenda". We can call for polite responses rather than snark, but honestly, this is no private board for one or two people to run as they please. Don't think for a moment that the mods here are anything but eplayans who volunteer. We are not BMORG.

Have you herded cats using another person's vague written instructions? There's a reason I resigned (I know, it still says mod, I can't scrub it off).

Bullies?

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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby Simon of the Playa » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:31 am

alright, who has been putting testosterone in Kisha's Kashi?
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby Dolomite » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:43 pm

I really feel sorry for anyone who's interested in burning man who happens upon threads like this. These things really missrepresent what the playa has been for myself and many other people.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby gaminwench » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:47 am

Black Rock City is many, many things...
to each unique, individual person who pARTicipates...

a veritable rainbow of possibility...
to sing, to cry, to dance, to flame....

much like eplaya..
...but, then again, not....
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby BBadger » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:11 am

I personally think we have an obligation to slew snark at those who are out of touch with the real world. The people who expect their hands to be held the entire way, the people who won't use that melon above their neck to at least try and help themselves, the people who feel self-entitled, the people offering up plainly worthless stuff like they think they're pulling the wool over our eyes (e.g. "fresh vegetable chefs"), the people who get offended because of the snark. What we see here is a microcosm for society as a whole, and if people are getting harsh treatment for their behavior, perhaps they'll carry those lessons to other parts of their life.

Really, why should anyone be afraid that their question will draw snark? Wouldn't that imply that the person hasn't done their homework to begin with? That the person hasn't taken time to assess the situation? I know that when I'm in a new social arena, I try to evaluate the situation before potentially sticking my foot in my mouth. Is this some kind of lost art?

Maybe the problem is that people come to ePlaya thinking this place is a nesting ground for hippies who are all hugs. I sure did when I first visited. I was pleasantly surprised to find out it was not. People here are helpful, but you need to help yourself first. It's the least you can do and shows that you're putting some effort into the problem before you tap into someone else's.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby capjbadger » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:24 am

"No pity for self-inflicted" and "Stupidity should hurt. Apathy should kill" I think sums it up.

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social darwinism

Postby Simon of the Playa » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:34 am

the laws of social darwinism apply here as well as everywhere else my dear Kiro.


now, can i measure your skull size, just for kicks?
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby junglesmacks » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:08 am

You know, the topic of this thread coupled with the opening statements by the OP make quite an ironic mix.

..or maybe it's foreshadowing? Stating the obvious with a given example?


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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby Ugly Dougly » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:12 am

O.E. dreflian "to dribble or run at the nose, slobber," from P.Gmc. *drablojanan, from PIE *dher- "to make muddy." Meaning "to speak nonsense" is mid-14c. Related: Driveling, drivelling. The noun is from 14c.; meaning "idiotic speech or writing" is from 1852.
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby DustHand » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:12 am

jkisha wrote:Well that certainly is incentive for me to try harder.
And feel free to bite ALL of my 7000+ posts. :shock: :wink:
Igneouss wrote:jkisha,
That 50,000 number does not include you. You're up there but not among the elite.

Hey...5 more and you will be over 8000!!
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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby capjbadger » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:55 pm

DustHand wrote:
jkisha wrote:Well that certainly is incentive for me to try harder.
And feel free to bite ALL of my 7000+ posts. :shock: :wink:
Igneouss wrote:jkisha,
That 50,000 number does not include you. You're up there but not among the elite.

Hey...5 more and you will be over 8000!!



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Re: Drivel meter is off the scale

Postby DustHand » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:00 pm

There's no way that could be right....
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