liquor storage in 5 gallon water containers for bar?

What do you eat and drink on the playa? Share ideas, recipes and advice here.

liquor storage in 5 gallon water containers for bar?

Postby ConnieH » Fri May 06, 2011 10:29 am

I have this idea that will reduce the amount of plastic liquor bottles we have to haul out after the burn - transferring all the vodka we buy into a 5 gallon water container in Winnemucca. I'm thinking of using a water cooler bottle since my "aquatainers" seem to have a "taste" to them and I don't want plastic tasting vodka. A 5 gallon container will hold 10 1.75 liter bottles, the same amount we brought last year for our personal use and our contribution to our bar.

If I can get the major contributors in camp to do this, we'll cut down on a lot of bottles! It was a daily chore last year, smashing plastic bottles, finding a place for the glass that some people donated (ugh), and at the end we had several huge garbage bags full of plastic to recycle. I'd guess we went through at least 100+ bottles.

I was originally thinking of keeping our personal 5g bottle in our yurt and bringing to the bar a smaller bottle that I'd refill periodically during the week from our personal stash, but someone suggested also having a 5g in the bar for people to "dump" into (the same brand of vodka, which we'd coordinate), then they take their "dumping" bottle back to their personal space instead of it ending up in the bar trash. We could then dispense vodka out of the 5g for bar drinks.

Has anyone tried this? Do you see any holes in the plan? Would we get in any trouble with the State liquor board at the burn dispensing out of the 5g (if they even noticed or checked, vodka looks a lot like water ;-) )? We'd transport our stash from Winnemucca buried way in the back of the car so it wouldn't be considered an "open container" since no one can reach it.
ConnieH
 
Posts: 295
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:41 pm
Location: Idaho

Re: liquor storage in 5 gallon water containers for bar?

Postby Lord Of Ruin » Fri May 06, 2011 10:33 am

ConnieH wrote:I have this idea that will reduce the amount of plastic liquor bottles we have to haul out after the burn - transferring all the vodka we buy into a 5 gallon water container in Winnemucca. I'm thinking of using a water cooler bottle since my "aquatainers" seem to have a "taste" to them and I don't want plastic tasting vodka. A 5 gallon container will hold 10 1.75 liter bottles, the same amount we brought last year for our personal use and our contribution to our bar.

If I can get the major contributors in camp to do this, we'll cut down on a lot of bottles! It was a daily chore last year, smashing plastic bottles, finding a place for the glass that some people donated (ugh), and at the end we had several huge garbage bags full of plastic to recycle. I'd guess we went through at least 100+ bottles.

I was originally thinking of keeping our personal 5g bottle in our yurt and bringing to the bar a smaller bottle that I'd refill periodically during the week from our personal stash, but someone suggested also having a 5g in the bar for people to "dump" into (the same brand of vodka, which we'd coordinate), then they take their "dumping" bottle back to their personal space instead of it ending up in the bar trash. We could then dispense vodka out of the 5g for bar drinks.

Has anyone tried this? Do you see any holes in the plan? Would we get in any trouble with the State liquor board at the burn dispensing out of the 5g (if they even noticed or checked, vodka looks a lot like water ;-) )? We'd transport our stash from Winnemucca buried way in the back of the car so it wouldn't be considered an "open container" since no one can reach it.


This just in from the "make more work for yourself for little actual gain" department.

Seriously though....this really won't help much, and as you mentioned if the cops come around, they might think you were trying to hide what you were serving to whom, etc.

Why not just think through a good system to haul it out? I.e. how to crush the plastic ones, and smash the glass ones (inside a heavy canvas workbag with a small mallet works great) then throw it all into heavy contractor plastic bags.

LoR
The fox provides for himself, but God provides for the lion - W. Blake (attribution corrected)
Lord Of Ruin
 
Posts: 389
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:22 pm
Burning Since: 2017

Postby mdmf007 » Fri May 06, 2011 10:41 am

Sounds like a good way to conserve space and reduce. As far as letitng people top it off, id worry about the vodka getting adulterated with something you don't want in there.

Id let a trusted member of your camp receive gifts and top it off yourself.

You could also get a hold of kegs as well. They are stainless do not impart a flavor into their contents and are sturdier than coolers.
User avatar
mdmf007
Moderator
 
Posts: 4772
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:32 pm
Location: my computer
Burning Since: 1999
Camp Name: ESD

Re: liquor storage in 5 gallon water containers for bar?

Postby ConnieH » Fri May 06, 2011 10:51 am

Lord Of Ruin wrote:Why not just think through a good system to haul it out? I.e. how to crush the plastic ones, and smash the glass ones (inside a heavy canvas workbag with a small mallet works great) then throw it all into heavy contractor plastic bags.

LoR


We've been hauling it out for years, we are experts on crushing, smashing - we do have a good system, but if we can reduce the overall amount of bottles that even hit the playa, it's less work in the end. Sort of like removing all your packaged food from the outer packages ;-)

Trustworthy sources would be key, never thought about adulterated booze since we don't fly that way...
ConnieH
 
Posts: 295
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:41 pm
Location: Idaho

Postby Dr. Pyro » Fri May 06, 2011 11:01 am

This isn't exactly the same, but similar. For years Barbie Death Camp & Wine Bistro brought cases of wine out to the playa. One time a case feel in the RV smashing it and our vino to bits. What we have done now is for the wine we serve during the week, we bring it out in stainless steel containers, using CO2 to dispense it. No more bottles. Saves on space, weight, eliminates broken glass, and makes the entire process so much easier. No bottles to open, to corks to throw out, no glass to worry about. If you can do something similar I would strongly suggest it. And we never had a problem with the LEOs serving it "on tap".
User avatar
Dr. Pyro
 
Posts: 3675
Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:11 am
Location: Newcastle, CA
Burning Since: 1999
Camp Name: Barbie Death Camp & Wine Bistro

Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri May 06, 2011 11:29 am

Not sure I would drink from an unmarked vessel.
Please to visit PAGE TWO.
User avatar
Ugly Dougly
 
Posts: 16335
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:31 am
Location: San Jose, CA
Burning Since: 1996

Postby unjonharley » Fri May 06, 2011 11:33 am

Dr. Pyro wrote:This isn't exactly the same, but similar. For years Barbie Death Camp & Wine Bistro brought cases of wine out to the playa. One time a case feel in the RV smashing it and our vino to bits. What we have done now is for the wine we serve during the week, we bring it out in stainless steel containers, using CO2 to dispense it. No more bottles. Saves on space, weight, eliminates broken glass, and makes the entire process so much easier. No bottles to open, to corks to throw out, no glass to worry about. If you can do something similar I would strongly suggest it. And we never had a problem with the LEOs serving it "on tap".


Tell me again Pyro.. When was the last time "you" saw wine that didn't come out of s box :roll: :roll: :?:
User avatar
unjonharley
 
Posts: 8824
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:05 am
Location: Salem Or.

Postby knowmad » Fri May 06, 2011 12:36 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:Not sure I would drink from an unmarked vessel.


What brand of water you drinking? That Wet stuff or That H2O crap? :lol:
............................................Image...........................................
Oh yeah, this year I was totally twerping out at the fence. ~Lonesombri
User avatar
knowmad
 
Posts: 3304
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:33 pm
Location: Puget Sound
Burning Since: 2009
Camp Name: 09-11 Specialist Clan
12 BWS BDV/DPB

Postby ConnieH » Fri May 06, 2011 12:39 pm

Dr. Pyro wrote:This isn't exactly the same, but similar. For years Barbie Death Camp & Wine Bistro brought cases of wine out to the playa. One time a case feel in the RV smashing it and our vino to bits. What we have done now is for the wine we serve during the week, we bring it out in stainless steel containers, using CO2 to dispense it. No more bottles. Saves on space, weight, eliminates broken glass, and makes the entire process so much easier. No bottles to open, to corks to throw out, no glass to worry about. If you can do something similar I would strongly suggest it. And we never had a problem with the LEOs serving it "on tap".


Thanks! Good to know it's been done with success - what type of stainless steel containers do you use?

Now that I think more about it, using one or two of the 1.75 liter vodka bottles that we purchased the vodka in to dispense out of at the bar, since it would be the same vodka, would probably be the best idea. Trust me, you'd get a clean drink from our bar, just as you would from Pyro. Well, the vodka is clean anyway...who knows what's in that mixer?!? ;-) LOL...really, I'm less concerned about potential tampering, our campmates are all trustworthy, and if someone from outside is going to tamper with our liquor, there's nothing we could do to stop it if we don't see them do it. We usually shut the bar down when we run out of liquor around 4am, until then there is always a camp member bartending.
ConnieH
 
Posts: 295
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:41 pm
Location: Idaho

Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri May 06, 2011 12:45 pm

knowmad wrote:
Ugly Dougly wrote:Not sure I would drink from an unmarked vessel.


What brand of water you drinking? That Wet stuff or That H2O crap? :lol:



Don't worry! It's "vodka"! :roll:
Please to visit PAGE TWO.
User avatar
Ugly Dougly
 
Posts: 16335
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:31 am
Location: San Jose, CA
Burning Since: 1996

Postby knowmad » Fri May 20, 2011 10:53 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:
knowmad wrote:
Ugly Dougly wrote:Not sure I would drink from an unmarked vessel.


What brand of water you drinking? That Wet stuff or That H2O crap? :lol:



Don't worry! It's "vodka"! :roll:

My people call it fire water. but yeah!
............................................Image...........................................
Oh yeah, this year I was totally twerping out at the fence. ~Lonesombri
User avatar
knowmad
 
Posts: 3304
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:33 pm
Location: Puget Sound
Burning Since: 2009
Camp Name: 09-11 Specialist Clan
12 BWS BDV/DPB

Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri May 20, 2011 11:27 am

You might as well leave your sippy cup at home then.
Please to visit PAGE TWO.
User avatar
Ugly Dougly
 
Posts: 16335
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:31 am
Location: San Jose, CA
Burning Since: 1996

Postby Token » Fri May 20, 2011 2:28 pm

Old Pepsi or Coke 5 gallon steel kegs. I recon this is what Doc uses.

Very popular with home brewers.

They run ~ $10-20 a pop plus you need ~ $2.00 worth of new rubber o-rings and whatnot.

The CO2 is what costs big $$$. Maybe like $100 or somesuch if you don't get a regulator.
User avatar
Token
 
Posts: 2302
Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:55 pm
Location: Gold Country, CA
Burning Since: 2001

Postby Bluemandrew » Fri May 20, 2011 8:43 pm

ConnieH wrote:
Dr. Pyro wrote:This isn't exactly the same, but similar. For years Barbie Death Camp & Wine Bistro brought cases of wine out to the playa. One time a case feel in the RV smashing it and our vino to bits. What we have done now is for the wine we serve during the week, we bring it out in stainless steel containers, using CO2 to dispense it. No more bottles. Saves on space, weight, eliminates broken glass, and makes the entire process so much easier. No bottles to open, to corks to throw out, no glass to worry about. If you can do something similar I would strongly suggest it. And we never had a problem with the LEOs serving it "on tap".


Thanks! Good to know it's been done with success - what type of stainless steel containers do you use?

Now that I think more about it, using one or two of the 1.75 liter vodka bottles that we purchased the vodka in to dispense out of at the bar, since it would be the same vodka, would probably be the best idea. Trust me, you'd get a clean drink from our bar, just as you would from Pyro. Well, the vodka is clean anyway...who knows what's in that mixer?!? ;-) LOL...really, I'm less concerned about potential tampering, our campmates are all trustworthy, and if someone from outside is going to tamper with our liquor, there's nothing we could do to stop it if we don't see them do it. We usually shut the bar down when we run out of liquor around 4am, until then there is always a camp member bartending.



Indeed Token has it correct. 5 gallon soda kegs (Called a Cornelius/Corny keg IIRC) Dispensed with a party tap system like you would use for homebrew.

I bought one of these setups a while ago for beer, I think I spent under 200 bucks for everything (including some fairly pricey adapters you won't need for the soda kegs) Bring enough CO2...
Bluemandrew
 
Posts: 230
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:55 pm


Return to Food & Drink

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest