Limits of Growth?

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Limits of Growth?

Postby Leo » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:28 am

For 2010, the population of Black City went beyond 51,000. Other than the B.L.M. permit requirements, are there any limits of growth? Given the recent trajectory of growth, the population of Black Rock City could exceed 100,000 in seven or eight years.

The current city planning concept is brilliant. As the population grows, more perimeter streets (L, M, N, etc) could be added and perhaps starting at "K", you would find 0:15 and 0:45 radial streets to keep the blocks at a manageable scale.

One of the downsides of this population growth would be the arrival and the exodus. Perhaps the Man burns on Friday night and the Temple burns on Saturday night to allow for a larger "exodus window" for the population to return to the default world.
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Postby Dr. Pyro » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:37 pm

It seems to me if they allow us to bring back firearms, the problem would take care of itself.
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Postby graidawg » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:08 pm

Dr. Pyro wrote:It seems to me if they allow us to bring back firearms, the problem would take care of itself.


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Re: Limits of Growth?

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:16 pm

Leo wrote:For 2010, the population of Black City went beyond 51,000. Other than the B.L.M. permit requirements, are there any limits of growth? Given the recent trajectory of growth, the population of Black Rock City could exceed 100,000 in seven or eight years.

The current city planning concept is brilliant. As the population grows, more perimeter streets (L, M, N, etc) could be added and perhaps starting at "K", you would find 0:15 and 0:45 radial streets to keep the blocks at a manageable scale.

One of the downsides of this population growth would be the arrival and the exodus. Perhaps the Man burns on Friday night and the Temple burns on Saturday night to allow for a larger "exodus window" for the population to return to the default world.



i fully expect by then to have flying hover-bikes.

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Postby Mojojita » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:32 pm

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Postby delle » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:32 pm

How about teleportation booths

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Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:49 pm

There is all sorts of speculation on the boards about this. What I remember is someone suggesting that there wasn't going to be much more population allowed because of 447's carrying capacity.
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Postby dr.placebo » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:57 pm

Gotta agree with Crypto. It's the road. Going from 50K to 60K might be OK, but it could also push the ingress/egress times over the edge.

If the arrival/departure times could be spread out more then the carrying capacity of the playa itself will not be exceeded for a while, especially if the BLM bumps up the area (we use only a few percent of the available area of the Black Rock desert).

Given the quick sale of the first 27K tickets I wonder if this is the year we get real gridlock. Or maybe there will be some measures taken to spread out the traffic. I guess we'll see.
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Postby jkisha » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:35 pm

We go early and leave late. Just doing our part in easing the exodus traffic.

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Postby unjonharley » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:18 am

I think that long road ( attempt to contriol the dust) is a very poor idea..
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Postby Bob » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:23 am

Park in Reno and walk in. Do it for the ecology, man.
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Postby Lord Of Ruin » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:40 am

unjonharley wrote:I think that long road ( attempt to contriol the dust) is a very poor idea..


I'm curious on two fronts:

Why do you think that?


What does this have to do with the limits of growth...i.e. the thread topic?

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Postby unjonharley » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:25 pm

Lord Of Ruin wrote:
unjonharley wrote:I think that long road ( attempt to contriol the dust) is a very poor idea..


I'm curious on two fronts:

Why do you think that?


What does this have to do with the limits of growth...i.e. the thread topic?

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It has to do with how much more fuel is wasted as the pop grows
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:39 am

um, Electric hoverbikes?
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Postby ygmir » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:41 am

I've got your hover bike:
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:44 am

ZerGUT!
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