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Postby ygmir » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:01 pm

I think you just broke my brain.
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Postby Dr. Pyro » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:01 pm

Like that's particularly difficult.
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Postby ygmir » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:02 pm

hey, at least I have a place to keep it.
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Postby Super Evil Brian » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:42 pm

^Rhino! wrote:Consider this, Bob.....I'm not associated with an academic institution anymore. I have to send out such things, and the analysis costs $$ I don't have at the moment.

Maybe later.


Rhino, this is fascinating ... thanks for posting. I'll look for you in the Playa.
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Postby Super Evil Brian » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:58 pm

^Rhino! wrote:"Don't laugh, I have the distinction of having drilled into one of the Center Camp electrical grid lines 9 or 10 years ago. Having rainbow spaghetti come up in the auger when you're setting posts for a stupid shade structure in a vast desert is not a pleasant feeling."

Bob, bob, bob.......I feel your pain........
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Or is it still safety third?
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There are utilities under the playa?
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Postby C.f.M. » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:00 pm

Yeah, it's where DPW plugs in all their tools to do all the city building and set up.
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Postby TomServo » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:18 am

thought id post this for shits and giggles...thank you whoever posted this on Youtube!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnUO9GIbE6E&feature=autoplay&list=PLFE32F3373C8FAFBD&index=8&playnext=3[/youtube]
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Postby TomServo » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:49 am

like this one too!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzT2qyMZJ98[/youtube]
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Postby Bob » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:27 am

Super Evil Brian wrote:There are utilities under the playa?


Trenched around the Center Camp circle to power the org 'infrastructure' camps eg Playa Info, Rangers, Artery, etc.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/

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Postby C.f.M. » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:52 am

TomServo wrote:like this one too!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzT2qyMZJ98[/youtube]


And that, gentle reader, is why I love my dust mask (rather than a bandana or other fabric).
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:58 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrvmNQi2pU[/youtube]



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Postby ygmir » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:05 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=985gQXDNO5g&feature=related[/youtube]
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Postby Ugly Dougly » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:25 pm

Love the look on his face. He's so proud of his pointlessness, as we all should be.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:14 pm

*waiting for the obvious std joke to surface*
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Postby Liz Estrada » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:15 pm

evidently playa dust is a cure for that too.
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Postby falk » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:56 pm

Snow wrote:I had to drill next to a major military fiber optic line that happened to run through my cleanup site in Fallon. I was sweating bullets the whole time. Luckly there was no incident.


That's how the modern wilderness survival kit works: it consists of a length of fiber and a trenching shovel. If you find yourself lost in the woods, use the shovel to bury the fiber. Then stand back and wait for the backhoe to show up.
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Postby falk » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:57 pm

Anyway, many thanks to Rhino for posting that excellent bunch of information. Just don't make a habit of it, ok? This is the internet after all.

The bottom line I think we're all waiting for: what's the best way to clean playa dust off of stuff?
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Postby ygmir » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:58 pm

falk wrote:
Snow wrote:I had to drill next to a major military fiber optic line that happened to run through my cleanup site in Fallon. I was sweating bullets the whole time. Luckly there was no incident.


That's how the modern wilderness survival kit works: it consists of a length of fiber and a trenching shovel. If you find yourself lost in the woods, use the shovel to bury the fiber. Then stand back and wait for the backhoe to show up.



hahaha, so true.....

I've always said, if you can't find a water pipe, in a ten acre field, sit me on a backhoe and I'll hit it in 5 minutes.
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Postby CapSmashy » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:33 pm

TomServo wrote:like this one too!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzT2qyMZJ98[/youtube]


Happy Happy Joy Joy!

That's the dust storm that I got caught out on the open playa with Quick!

It was AWESOME! :D
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Postby ^Rhino! » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:00 pm

"The bottom line I think we're all waiting for: what's the best way to clean playa dust off of stuff?"

OK......based on EVERYTHING I've accumulated, chemical analyses, particle-size data, mineralogy, etc.......

Since there's a load of calcite involved, you get that off and dissolved with a little bit of apple cider vinegar (weak acetic acid). Next, to get the clays to stick together and come off, you need a little bit of flocculant, and then a little anionic surfactant.

For the flocculant, I'd use a weak solution of sodium hexametaphosphate (Calgon), and add in something so it doesn't stick...the anionic surfactant. To keep clay off drilling tools, we actually have used Cascade liquid dishwashing detergent. Not only do you get the clay not forming a big-assed 'boot' on your drill bit, but you get a lemon-fresh job site.

I'll be experimenting with varying concentrations over the next few months and on-playa as well. We'll see what happens.
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Postby TomServo » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:34 pm

^Rhino! wrote:"The bottom line I think we're all waiting for: what's the best way to clean playa dust off of stuff?"

OK......based on EVERYTHING I've accumulated, chemical analyses, particle-size data, mineralogy, etc.......

Since there's a load of calcite involved, you get that off and dissolved with a little bit of apple cider vinegar (weak acetic acid). Next, to get the clays to stick together and come off, you need a little bit of flocculant, and then a little anionic surfactant.

For the flocculant, I'd use a weak solution of sodium hexametaphosphate (Calgon), and add in something so it doesn't stick...the anionic surfactant. To keep clay off drilling tools, we actually have used Cascade liquid dishwashing detergent. Not only do you get the clay not forming a big-assed 'boot' on your drill bit, but you get a lemon-fresh job site.

I'll be experimenting with varying concentrations over the next few months and on-playa as well. We'll see what happens.



Interesting you should mention "vinegar"....after a foot injury, one of the meds washed my foot with vinegar/ water....and told me to do it daily, to prevent playa foot.
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Postby tamarakay » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:37 am

Bump. Just because. LOL

All newbies should read all six pages of this. This should be required reading right after survival guide reading. It is everything I love about the Eplaya in one thread.

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Postby lemur » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:03 am

this post just reminds me of how shitty tribe is/was/hasbecome
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Postby tamarakay » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:34 am

Wow. I'm sorry that's all you get out of it. I thought I was jaded and depressed.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:51 am

I miss the old tribe, too. I'm slowly prying my fingers off the slightly animate, but in all real terms hopeless, corpse...
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Postby Super Evil Brian » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:02 pm

I still have embedded playa dust in the car, on camera lenses (not the glass, but plastic parts like lens hoods, fucking plastic) and a waxed canvas bike messenger bag. Its on the tent, drilling hammer, rebar, bag for the shade and the shade itself, the battery-powered radio I used to for BMIR and some other stuff.

In a way I like the dust. It's a reminder of the epic time I had on the playa and the trip there and back through Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona and west Texas.

Normally I keep my gear clean and organized, but somehow the playa dust is nice to see for a few reasons. One reason is I think gear looks better a little worn like I've been somewhere; and secondly, the dust just reminds me of being in Black Rock City. Also, I can't go this year because of the ticket problem so it will be bittersweet in a few months when the city is booming.

That first post-playa shower in the motel in Hawthorne, NV was pretty nice, but I didn't feel grimy or dirty before. I took my time unpacking, gathering laundry, organizing, checking email and other minor things. I guess I just got used to being dusty, surrounded by dusty people in a dusty environment.

In BRC, I never went barefoot and kept my feet covered with clean socks in shoes (I slept barefoot though). Other than a seriously fucked up lip (I'll remember lip balm next time) I had no ill effect from the dust on my skin. I actually liked the environment and felt comfortable in it. I came from San Antonio, where I lived at the time, and it was hotter there than the playa and in an epic three-year drought. So the days in BRC felt comfortable by comparison.

I washed my clothes like normal in the motel's laundromat with whatever detergent was in the vending machine and everything looked fine. I gave some Germans (who were also en route from BRC) a pile of quarters for the machine. When one of them tried to hand me some dollar bills, I was a little confused and politely didn't take them. Not being in BRC hadn't set in yet, although something felt wrong on the way out, but I thought it was some other things going on (my travel plans changed to go to a funeral en route).

And, when I lay my head to sleep in the quiet darkness of the lonely motel room, I cried uncontrollably. I had symptoms of mild PTSD, which is oddly normal after leaving Black Rock City, and it took a couple of months before I was right again. The profound psychological effect and the horror of returning to the hideous suburban life was MUCH worse than chapped lips. Reliving it now, is actually sort of difficult and my eyes are tearing up writing and editing this.

I have a pair of new Doc Martens boots on and I think they need a coat of playa dust. I want to go to the playa right now, although I imagine it's still flooded from winter.
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Postby MyDearFriend » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:21 am

(((Super Evil Brian)))

Fuck, I looked all over for you in BRC and I had tons of extra lip balm. :cry:

Sorry I can't do anything about the horror of your hideous suburban life except hope you are out of there by now???
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Postby Super Evil Brian » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:17 pm

MyDearFriend wrote:(((Super Evil Brian)))

Fuck, I looked all over for you in BRC and I had tons of extra lip balm. :cry:

Sorry I can't do anything about the horror of your hideous suburban life except hope you are out of there by now???


In the car I had some, but I forgot all about it. It's not something I normally use (I can't stand the feeling of it, or sunscreen).
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Postby MyDearFriend » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:37 pm

Super Evil Brian wrote:
MyDearFriend wrote:(((Super Evil Brian)))

Fuck, I looked all over for you in BRC and I had tons of extra lip balm. :cry:

Sorry I can't do anything about the horror of your hideous suburban life except hope you are out of there by now???


In the car I had some, but I forgot all about it. It's not something I normally use (I can't stand the feeling of it, or sunscreen).


Well, I still wish we'd tracked you down. 8)

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Postby Super Evil Brian » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:33 am

I ran into old friends, made new ones, ran into people who lived near me when I was in Connecticut. I never ran into the girl whom I've run into in two different states and probably missed other people I knew.

I never rode on an art car but I saw so much crazy shit it made up for it.

An Austrian girl and I were explaining Burning Man -- or trying to -- to a girl from New Jersey who never heard of it. Since were were in Austin when that happened, I expect to find them there in the dust. Austin has those strange moments of path-crossing and connection that Black Rock City has.

Here I ran into a dude I knew in Connecticut and hadn't seen in a few years. He recognized me but I couldn't remember his name. In both places there is no point looking for people. Either your paths will cross on their own or they will not.
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