Burningman gun policy, unlawful & dangerous!

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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:25 am

I'll add another "aye" on Jarlsberg, although it does tend to create some odd mental images about the Viking Swiss.

I finally learned about those softer cheeses. Cause, I agree, they are yucky. (Actually, I think most dairy is skirting the edge of yucky much of the time, I'm a mutant.) But you take that yucky cheese and you put it on that yucky rabbit food and suddenly you have something fit for lunch.

Really, really odd.

So there's my testament to the Magic of Cheese.
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Postby Ugly Dougly » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:05 am

Viking Swiss? Okay, but how do they get those cool ships up the Matterhorn?
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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:07 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:Viking Swiss? Okay, but how do they get those cool ships up the Matterhorn?

I think they harness them to mountain goats.
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Postby C.f.M. » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:25 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:Viking Swiss? Okay, but how do they get those cool ships up the Matterhorn?


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Postby some seeing eye » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:56 am

Raclette - the Swiss shepherds food: fire roasted potatoes with melted cheese, salt and pepper. I think we need all bullets to be cheese, maybe a nice smelly blu.
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Postby Lassen Forge » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:22 pm

It's not just the raclette cheese, but HOW it's melted, that gives it that flavor of, um, yeah... wow.

Fire roast the bacon, er, potato. Put cheese next to fire so it gets both melty and carmelized crispyish. Scrape said melty carmelized fire roasted cheese off non-melted ceese with fire roasted bacon, er, potato... Paradiso!!!
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Postby Mosin » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:35 pm

1) Thanks Smashy!

2) Olde Gouda
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Postby LeChatNoir » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:51 pm

ygmir wrote:wuh?

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ygmir caught me being very shocked at finding that I had been missing out on a conversation about cheese!

I, like all of you fine folk, very much like cheese.
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Postby Bin Noddin » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:56 pm

There's a Swiss-style cheese called Madrigal that I really like. And shooting an ancient 30/40.
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Postby much2naughty2 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:59 pm

Jarlsberg, I knew you were great Risky!!!

I brought my block of Jarlsberg to BM this year and munched all week. I can only equate eating Jarlsberg to eating Heidi herself.
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Re: Burningman gun policy, unlawful & dangerous!

Postby ZaphodBurner » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:22 pm

gunsmith wrote:
OR will the shroomed out hippie who happens to have the remembered reading the screwball lit imagine that he now has the duty to get himself shot trying to enforce this ill thought out/illegal policy?


If you shoot a hippie for telling you he's not going to let you through the gate unless you hand over your gun, you're probably looking at murder if you're any good with the thing.

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THE GUN WILL NEVER BE CONFISCATED!!!

That's all folks! NV is an open carry state- guns are a fact of life for most desert folks ( including black rock rangers and senior dpw and perimeter )


I carry my own, but, it's perfectly easy for them to say you can't come into the Burning Man event, because they have the legal right to prevent you from entry or kick you out. Also remember that the Black Rock Desert is federal land. It's not like you're going to pull your weapon on them because they say you can't win, and if you did, well... you wouldn't enjoy your burn.

So, basically, it's just like going to see a concert where they frisk you and don't let you in. If you don't like it, don't go. They can legally prevent you from entering with a weapon.
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Postby teardropper » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:25 pm

teardropper wrote:The purpose of a sledge hammer is for Cool Hand Luke to break rocks. The purpose of a car is for Cool Hand Luke to escape. The purpose of a carbon arc torch is to cut off Cool Hand Luke's manacles. The purpose of a gun is to kill Cool Hand Luke.


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Postby buckycat » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:42 pm

zaphod and tearjerker, we have moved on. No more talk of guns unless they are:

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Postby teardropper » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:49 pm

Good. Our work is done.

Now if we can just get a mod to rename this topic...

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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:05 pm

I know it as "Rosti."
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Postby ygmir » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:08 pm

LeChatNoir wrote:
ygmir wrote:wuh?

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ygmir caught me being very shocked at finding that I had been missing out on a conversation about cheese!

I, like all of you fine folk, very much like cheese.


how silly of me:
of course, "the Cat" would know his cheese......owing to how much he's probably eaten (granted, assimilated, processed, and metabolized).
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Postby gunsmith » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:07 pm

I like swiss chesse, it's full of holes. quite a few holes in this thread.
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Postby gyre » Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:29 am

teardropper wrote:
If a gun is not for shooting, killing, if you will, and sledgehammer can kill, too, then why don't you carry a sledgehammer? Or run into them with your killing car? Because they're not as good at killing. You carry a gun because, when you feel the need, it is far more efficient at killing.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Wow.
Reply notice fails and the thread drift drifts.

I'm guessing you mean handgun by gun?
Actually a handgun isn't that efficient at killing.
You want a rifle for that.

What a handgun does well is conceal and work from a distance, which is more of an advantage for defense than killing.
Because of that distance, those less willing to use violence have a chance of dealing with the more violent people in our society.

It requires less skill than a bow or knife to be effective and strength has little effect on one's ability to use it.

Very small women and elderly people in wheelchairs have good reason to want adequate defense, and have a right to it.
Lack of strength or agility can limit one's use of improvisational weapons.

And, by the way, improvised weapons are taught for defense even in our military.
Use of such weapons in impoverished or repressed countries shows that guns are not necessary for violence.
I think gasoline is a favorite these days.

You may be surprised by how often charges are filed for deliberate homicide with vehicles in this country too.
The only guns that can compete with a vehicle for destruction are artillery.


How easy is it to weaponize something?

These examples are accidental, but the seeming banality is telling.
One burglar is jammed in a door,
The other breaks in through the floor, and is trapped by the springiness of the board.
Since I have trapped hands and feet this way, it's a bit chilling.
I have had to use a bar to free myself.

A CAREER burglar famed for his skill at breaking into buildings died after getting jammed in a doorway.

Michael McNamara 37, was surrounded by the property he had stolen after ransacking a flat.

The speed with which he could get in and out of houses had earned him the nickname The Rabbit.

But on his final break-in he could not move at all, trapped for at least two hours in the gap of a partially-opened door.

Unknown to him a picture frame had jammed against the bottom part of the door and the wall on the other side.

As he forced his head and shoulders through a gap at the top half of the door, his body fell forward. He was trapped agonisingly in a vicelike grip between the half-open door and door frame.

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This burglar got in, but could not overcome the tension on the floorboard.
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Postby Ugly Dougly » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:36 am

Real burners would kill with something more creative than a pistol.
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Postby Lassen Forge » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:07 pm

Like a block of cheese? A Baby Loaf, perhaps? Mmmm.... tillamook.

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Then again, we wonder just how many babys are in a baby loaf??? :shock:

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Postby ygmir » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:21 pm

Tillamook is always welcome in my house.......

I think, the most interesting cheese I ever ate, was in Finland.
I can't remember the Finnish name, but, it translates to "Squeaky cheese".......and, is made from the colostrum of reindeer.
and, it does squeak when you bits and chew it.
nice, mild flavor.
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Postby Lassen Forge » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:52 pm

Oooh - I've HAD that - Very mild... the texture is fascinating. Cool stuff.
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Postby teardropper » Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:26 pm

Gyre wrote:
teardropper wrote:
If a gun is not for shooting, killing, if you will, and sledgehammer can kill, too, then why don't you carry a sledgehammer? Or run into them with your killing car? Because they're not as good at killing. You carry a gun because, when you feel the need, it is far more efficient at killing.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Wow.
Reply notice fails and the thread drift drifts.

I'm guessing you mean handgun by gun?
Actually a handgun isn't that efficient at killing.
You want a rifle for that.


teardropper wrote:The purpose of a sledge hammer is for Cool Hand Luke to break rocks. The purpose of a car is for Cool Hand Luke to escape. The purpose of a carbon arc torch is to cut off Cool Hand Luke's manacles. The purpose of a gun is to kill Cool Hand Luke.


Some things work better, some worse.

Without a judgment as to whether this is good or bad, I am saying that all those things can kill. All can kill. But the only one whose actual PURPOSE is to kill is a gun.

This is, of course, thread drift. The thread is about bringing guns to BM, partly. That purpose is probably why they are not allowed.


But they let me have my bullwhip.


This is thread drift, too:

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This cheese is from around where I grew up, in Iowa. Made by the same family that made the washers. Each wheel is handmade and aged in caves. I like it with a good old growth Zinfandel, maybe a Ridge, and water wafers.

But, of course, it makes a top shelf salad dressing, too.




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Postby gyre » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:47 pm

I have no idea why guns, traditional at burning man, are now prohibited.

My first guess would be that it is easier to insure a flamethrower than a gun.
Other than that, I could make guesses.


And a handgun's purpose is not primarily to kill, though it can obviously be used that way.
The primary purpose is to have a weapon handy, in case of need.
For a legal carrier, that would be for self defense.

It doesn't matter anyway.


I would note that most people have totally missed gunsmith's point, being a vague policy that may result in increased risk.

I'm really more baffled that anyone would want to bring drugs or alcohol to burning man.
It all seems adequately entertaining to me.
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Postby Bob » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:54 pm

gyre wrote:I have no idea why guns, traditional at burning man, are now prohibited.


As I said, they didn't want the *appearance* of it being a gun-friendly event.

And there's the moop question.
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Postby Sic Pup » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 pm

Leave the gun, take the cannoli.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:38 pm

teardropper wrote:
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This cheese is from around where I grew up, in Iowa. Made by the same family that made the washers. Each wheel is handmade and aged in caves. I like it with a good old growth Zinfandel, maybe a Ridge, and water wafers.

But, of course, it makes a top shelf salad dressing, too.

Fritz Maytag was also the savior of the Anchor Steam Brewery. I don't like it all that much, actually, but it is local, it is a unique and historical brewing process and it predates newer (and wonderful) trend of micro-brewing.
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Postby Kinetik V » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:15 pm

Tillamook! Oh hell yeah, and you posted my favorite. Extra Sharp Special Reserve. It doesn't get much better!

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Postby gyre » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:17 pm

Pathetic thread drift.

What about chhurpi?
Or Circassians?
Or unpasteurized Blue Vinney?

Å kripavac is one squeaky cheese.


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