Towards a More Accessible Burn

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Postby ygmir » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:24 pm

this was my attempt.
moveable ramps and a low platform/tongue.

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I somewhat documented the entire build, but, this shows mostly what it was.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:36 pm

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Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:41 pm

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Postby gyre » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:45 pm

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Some article referred to her as a quadess.

Suppose you've already heard of her clothes anyway though.

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Postby unjonharley » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:32 am

Grandfather got a biger motor home for he and dog..

Now I have to figure out hualing the power chair..

Thinking of a front ramp and platform..
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Postby gyre » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:48 am

Don't know where to put this.
Thought it might help someone.

http://projectvisability.org/

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We support and encourage all fitness facilities to offer group classes taught by capable, physically challenged instructors.

Project VisAbility promotes and advocates inclusive fitness at the highest, most visible level by working to provide jobs in the areas of health and fitness for those with physical challenges. We seek to link gyms who are committed to this idea with motivating, qualified instructors.

By enabling everyone to exercise together, we inspire joy and celebrate achievement.
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Postby unjonharley » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:40 pm

unjonharley wrote:Grandfather got a biger motor home for he and dog..

Now I have to figure out hualing the power chair..

Thinking of a front ramp and platform..



We just mounted a all alumini carrier that will go eather on the van or motor home.. It is large enough to handle a power chair.. HF has them foe $220.. Ask for a 20% discount.. Thinking of one to put right inside my VW van door.. The ramp is just the right tilt..

On the motor home the carier will mount on the front (reciever) on the rear for the van.. There is enough room to drive the power chair up into the VW.

We will be flying with chair next Jan.. I'll take the walker.. Make the airlines earn there $$$..

For the TSA I will be wearing a kilt, spedo and adult diaper.. Check me out , you pervert :twisted:
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Postby gyre » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:06 am

From a thread on disabled parking elsewhere ~

Used to do a self defence class in Stanmore orthopaedic hospital. One day in a class of about 30. The receptionist came in to ask rather angrily 'who's has parked in the disabled bays' to which 3 of the guys in the front put their hands up.......all of them in wheelchairs!

Believe me it was funnier being there than reading this!!
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Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:59 pm

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Postby unjonharley » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:41 pm

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Odd you should bump this today..

I was on the way to the store on the trnsporter..

Approching the store I moved into the left hand turn lane..

Even gave a hand signal for turning into Wal Mart..

Son-of-a-bitch sped up and passed me in the same (turn) lane.

Just so he could get into the parking lot one second before me..

I yelled as loud as I could. " You dumb son of a bitch"..

Had his window down with his old lady with him..

He riped into the lot and parked.. I rolled into the lot and got off the scoot with my hard wood cane in hand. Base bal bat style

Chicken shit son of a bitch stayed in his car.. I waited, He left..

Right then I was willing to take ride to jail if needed
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Postby Jax Dee » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:26 am

It's so wonderful to see a thread about making the playa more disability friendly. I have minor mobility issues (part-time walker user) and I have so much awe and respect for those that manage Burning Man each year in a wheelchair. I wish I had more to contribute at the moment besides positive thoughts. I will be keeping an eye on this thread and brain-storming for ideas to help as well.
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Postby lucky420 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:05 am

unjon you are such a badass +100
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby PapaBear2120 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:18 am

Hey Cryptofisist,

I just realized what the thread was that you were talking about. The one issue with the design that we have is you can't get much bigger then a 25' dome. Too many weak spots in the PVC if you try and build bigger than that. Anyway, I'll repost what I posted in my "needing to get our kitchen coordinator a ticket" thread :P
But yes, the doorways are huge. Basically about 15' wide by 8' tall.

There's a website with information about the structure design and the guy who first created it I'll post below. Easier than trying to explain it myself :)

http://www.toad.com/gnu/clifs-shade-structure.html

My first year was in '05 with Swingers Lounge and the structure design had been in use for a few years by them before I joined. They got their design from Cliff (an Oregon Country Fair connection). Cliff told me they used to use bamboo for the design at one point. Anyway, me and some buddies took over Swingers Lounge in '07 and renamed the camp CarboFuckiNation, I renamed it again in '09 as RevoFuckinLution.

We did some updates and fixes to the design. The biggest one that won't be listed on the web page is that we switched the cross sections into a single metal piece. It's one cross of metal, about 1' square, that the PVC slides into. The pressure from bending the PVC keeps it in place. The other update we did was to take out the bolts that would keep the PVC connected and insert one and half inch PVC into the two inch PVC. The smaller diameter sticks out a foot and is screwed together on one end. This way we just slide the long poles over the smaller pieces and, once again, the pressure keeps it connected. Much easier than laying it all out, lining up the holes, putting in bolts, and twisting nuts on.

If you got any questions after checking out the web page, I'll be glad to answer them :)
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby unjonharley » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:17 pm

The city has (all) the sidewalk/bike lanes blocked near my house.. The one almost useable side walk is half covered with heavy black berry vines.. The thorns are big enough to flat a tire..

The cities ansewer to me is: Leave a message with this or that person, who return my call two days later.. Just to tell me I should leave a message with someone else.. I have a lawyer that would like to take it up for me.. So I have written each thing down..
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Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:56 pm

I wonder what emailing a picture would do.
I wonder what emailing pictures to the local tv station would do...
But lawyers work too.
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby unjonharley » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:33 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:I wonder what emailing a picture would do.
I wonder what emailing pictures to the local tv station would do...
But lawyers work too.



In SF they may yell, Kill the person in the wheel chair.. In Salem they will run you down if your on a bike or scooter...Salem is the most hateful driving city in the country.. The public workers are the worse of the lot.. Like..I'm here, pay me and what? you you expect me to do something.. I think they eat there young..

We do't have a TV station in this capital city.. The newspaper are a bunch of trained monkeys.. I wouldn't wrap my garbage in it. I'll try to get there share funding cut off.. The US gov, The state gov and the county gov all chip in to the city for roads and right of ways.. After I take a swat at em.. I'll have to move to Gerlach..
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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:40 am

The whole "small government" thing is taking all sorts of tolls.

And Berkeley is difinately a bubble in the disability world.
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby Jax Dee » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:14 am

Cross posted in One Item for BM a Day and Medication/Health Needs/Contact Lenses... Advice?

Bought a Care Medical History Bracelet to replace my old school med alert bracelet. It is a rubberized water proof USB bracelet with the med alert symbol on it that when plugged into a PC or MAC instantly displays everything they need to know about you in an emergency. Much more comprehensive than a simple bracelet and can be updated at any time by popping it back in my computer. I LOVE it. Since I have so many things wrong with me, one little metal bracelet wasn't covering it anymore. I found it at Walgreens. Comes in different sizes and colors. Totally awesome for anyone with medical issues. Also nice way to keep your medical records as they have spots to plug in test results and dates and doc vists, etc. I am really impressed with it and will feel safer on playa wearing it.
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby gyre » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:29 am

Unjon
The city should have an ada person.
Find them.

If not, ask for the job.
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby lucky420 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:13 am

or hit up an advocate at a Center for Independent Living.
Oh my god, it's HUGE!
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:17 pm

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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby Turtleburp » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:42 am

Hey fishy,

Was thinking about this very thing after Jeff's recent posts on breathing apparatus and was thinking of you too, (partly due to the great news about Apok's return and Sue though).

In my mind camps that not meet requirement ground beneath mighty tracks, weak attempt at accent know, I am but a humble bullet catcher(:

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Probably more expensive than the actual tank though!!
http://www.actiontrackchair.com/Default.aspx

This is a worthy thread to bump - many of the camps I saw last year could have been more accessible with a little thought, especially given the more open structures and fewer domes (bearing in mind my only other reference yr is 2001 when I say fewer domes).

Perhaps when camps register they should at least have to demonstrate at least accessibility considerations?
Not just physical access but tactile, and audible facets (the visual seems to be already pretty fantastic).

Given the distance I travel I don't know what I can do but keep bumping, is on my radar now at least!
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby Turtleburp » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:47 am

Or get a flashing blue light and tear around deep playa freaking out hippies!
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby unjonharley » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:31 pm

Got hit the other day on the standup scooter. In a cross walk w/a light. I had stopped to push to walk button.. This ass hat comes screaming up ,get it stopped well into the cross walkway.. The light changes for me to go.. I looked right into the guys eyes.. Was passed the center of his car,and he starts to roll. By the time he touched my leg.. I was discribing his parentage very loudly.. He stop without hurting me.. But I turned it in as an accident.. Maybe a higher insurance rate will help him in his low learning curve..
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Re: Towards a More Accessible Burn

Postby Fiver » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:36 pm

One of the awesome people in our camp this year doesn't have the use of his legs. He has a kick ass mini-art car that he rolls around in, and a beefy wheelchair that handles the playa pretty well when he wants to get on the dance floor or explore around the tighter spots on the Playa...
Anyway, we were at the temple burn early and who else but Mr. Best approached him and started chatting. David [Best] was very excited to share the experiences of designing the temple this year with handicapped in mind. It's the first year ever that the temple has been fully handicapped accessible. (I'm not sure if this is 100% true, but this year was certainly the first that the designers actively put thought into making sure it was.)
I hadn't thought much about it, but to my camp mate it obviously meant the world. They chatted for a few minutes, thanks were given, hugs all around.
David did mention that they were already working, (in very early form) on the temple and man for 2013. Now that the baseline of a accessible Temple has been laid down, one of the key things he really wants to do is make the Man more handicapped accessible.
While David was unsure if the 2013 man will wind up being 100% accessible, he did say that it is one of the big goals for the designers moving forward in the years ahead. The Temple next year will be as accessible as it was this year.
Before I started camping with my handicapped (capable?) friend, these things honestly never crossed my mind out there, but it's awesome that the people behind the scenes are thinking actively about it. Radical inclusion for all!
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