Roots Society and Opulent Temple Pissed About Placement?

Postby dj_john69 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:45 pm

Oh yeah, i believe i read that Nexus and Disorient got the corners this year. They better bring it big time or go home.
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Postby Token » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:51 pm

dj_john69 wrote:
alt12 wrote:
Token wrote:
Plus, El Circo & Do Labs are decades ahead and infinitely better than RS or OT.
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Problem is with those two that then you have to deal with the whole douchebag socal burner set.... (no offense to the many non-douchy socal burners, but I'm sure you know what I mean...)


Well said.


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Postby The Chinese » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:13 pm

alt12 wrote:
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Ugly Dougly wrote:
Eric wrote:Hopefully a camp playing something, oh, I don't know, original will have a shot. Not holding my breath.


Live music, perhaps?


My Goal is to someday Bring Transmorphagon to a Corner over the next few years - Live Music. I would LOVE to see that, even if it wasn't us... One corner for the Thump, one for the live... Electronic Live is OK- Imagine if you landed something like Chemical/Root alongside a RATM kind of thing...I think the place would go CRAZY!!!!!

Chino


Problem with live music on the playa is its very expensive to pull off. A full band, with instruments, equipment, PA, etc. isn't easy to get out there (flights, renting van, etc.). And you may get one guy in the group whose really psyched but getting the whole band to agree to it is another thing. In addition, musicians are usually struggling financially. Except for the very popular groups, money is always tight and they're usually going to want to get paid (unless their already on tour and passing through the area, etc.).... The whole operation is just a lot more difficult than flying one DJ with a laptop out here.... Which is why you don't see that many live acts out there.


I Completely agree, and that's our gift to BM/Bands- We bring the stage, The Backline, the PA. I agree it's really hard, and expensive. To go to the next level, I would have to fundraise in a serious manner to get enough sound & Lights. I mean guys bring 50,000watt rigs out there...I doubt many are owned outright. But I can def see doing it, maybe as my crowing achievement, after which I would walk away. But man, would it be fun. I would just get off on doing it on that scale.

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Postby Simon of the Playa » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:58 pm

wow, talk about tempest in a teapot.

Number One, i was merely speculating as to why one of the Most Integral Founding Members would want to end Root Society AS WE NOW KNOW IT...

this person has recently been blessed with the fortunate news of Fatherhood.

It seems quite logical and straightforward to assume that this might play a role in his decision.

that is all....



my god, it's worse than high school.



as far as entitlement goes, EVERY BODY AT ROOT SOCIETY WORKS THEIR ASS OFF, we do that because thats our gift to the citizens of our fair city.

we like doing it, it's fun, and we do it well.

whatever syd's problem with the BMORG is Syd's Problem, not ours.

We have a HUGE Lineup, New Stages and a Massive Fucking Video Wall so the charges of getting stale i hope dont apply to us.

we've always been avis, and hence, we've always tried harder.

well, this year, we are going to RIP THIS MUTHA A NEW ONE


and guess what, No Apologies, No Regrets.

Crystal Method is not a fucking Rumor. Friday Night we Drop The Nagasaki of Sound.

I guess the Truth Hertz...
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Postby VeganChoirGirl » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:19 pm

A blessing on your House, mozeltov, mozeltov...

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Postby curiousgnate » Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:22 pm

the small funk clubs name i never knew. it was there in 08, it was an inside created to be like a saloon and was at about 730 or 8 and esplanade, you could go on the roof, and the dance floor could fit like a hundred people. the bartenders were crazy nice and super hot. i went there at least once every night and usually ended up dancin there for at least 3 hours. they played everything from 80s and 90s to funk and alternative. they fucking rocked!
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Postby Box Burner » Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:04 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:wow, talk about tempest in a teapot.

Number One, i was merely speculating as to why one of the Most Integral Founding Members would want to end Root Society AS WE NOW KNOW IT...

this person has recently been blessed with the fortunate news of Fatherhood.

It seems quite logical and straightforward to assume that this might play a role in his decision.

that is all....



my god, it's worse than high school.



as far as entitlement goes, EVERY BODY AT ROOT SOCIETY WORKS THEIR ASS OFF, we do that because thats our gift to the citizens of our fair city.

we like doing it, it's fun, and we do it well.

whatever syd's problem with the BMORG is Syd's Problem, not ours.

We have a HUGE Lineup, New Stages and a Massive Fucking Video Wall so the charges of getting stale i hope dont apply to us.

we've always been avis, and hence, we've always tried harder.

well, this year, we are going to RIP THIS MUTHA A NEW ONE


and guess what, No Apologies, No Regrets.

Crystal Method is not a fucking Rumor. Friday Night we Drop The Nagasaki of Sound.

I guess the Truth Hertz...



Simon you rock. I googled mozeltov when you posted it and was later a bit disappointed when someone said that RS was leaving for the money to be had elswhere. But somehow that did not fit the word Mazaltov. At least in the way that I felt it would be most likely used. So now I get to the end of the thread and I am truly delighted. Mozeltov indeed. Huzzah and congrats! I will be the first to admit that big sound camps are not my cup of tea. But I do appreciate what you guys do. Rock on, or funk on or oonsa oonsa oonsa on. You'll be great wherever you are.
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Postby EspressoDude » Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:10 am

alt12 wrote:Live music, perhaps?
.. The whole operation is just a lot more difficult than flying one DJ with a laptop out here....


a DJ & laptop is ART?
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Postby CapSmashy » Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:33 am

EspressoDude wrote:a DJ & laptop is ART?


Depends on the DJ and how they bend the music.
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Postby MistressSybs » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:27 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:
Crystal Method is not a fucking Rumor. Friday Night we Drop The Nagasaki of Sound.


Live PA or dj set? =)
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Postby theCryptofishist » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:52 am

This rumor serves only to disguise the truly disturbing reality that First Camp is pissed about its placement.
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Postby Galaxo Magic » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:41 pm

[quote="alt12"][quote="The Chinese"][quote="Ugly Dougly"][quote="Eric"]Hopefully a camp playing something, oh, I don't know, [i]original[/i] will have a shot. Not holding my breath.[/quote]

Live music, perhaps?[/quote]

My Goal is to someday Bring Transmorphagon to a Corner over the next few years - Live Music. I would LOVE to see that, even if it wasn't us... One corner for the Thump, one for the live... Electronic Live is OK- Imagine if you landed something like Chemical/Root alongside a RATM kind of thing...I think the place would go CRAZY!!!!!

Chino[/quote]

Problem with live music on the playa is its very expensive to pull off. A full band, with instruments, equipment, PA, etc. isn't easy to get out there (flights, renting van, etc.). And you may get one guy in the group whose really psyched but getting the whole band to agree to it is another thing. In addition, musicians are usually struggling financially. Except for the very popular groups, money is always tight and they're usually going to want to get paid (unless their already on tour and passing through the area, etc.).... The whole operation is just a lot more difficult than flying one DJ with a laptop out here.... Which is why you don't see that many live acts out there.[/quote]
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Postby dj_john69 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:32 pm

Getting closer !!! :D
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Postby geekster » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:08 am

We have had bluegrass on the playa every year for the past 5 years. It is not expensive to pull off. You do it by providing a venue for the talent. They bring their own stuff. Each musician bears the expense of getting their instrument to the playa and caring for it.
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Postby marcgorcey » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:52 pm

geekster wrote:We have had bluegrass on the playa every year for the past 5 years. It is not expensive to pull off. You do it by providing a venue for the talent. They bring their own stuff. Each musician bears the expense of getting their instrument to the playa and caring for it.


hey geekster - sorry - which camp ?
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Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:20 pm

I forgot the name, I think it's 4:30 and Athens. There's a thread in the 2010 Art and Performance forum.
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Postby marcgorcey » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:51 pm

Yep... Iron Rose... I forgot...
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Postby geekster » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:06 am

But it is only a one-time event, it isn't 24x7 all week. See, that's the thing, I suppose. It is easy to provide recorded music all week. We aren't "bluegrass camp" but we set aside a couple of hours for it during the week. But that also gives OTHER camps in other parts of the city a chance to have a bluegrass event if they want to at a different time on a different day. The artists are out there, all you have to do is decide to provide a space for them to get together.

By encouraging people to bring instruments to the playa we are giving others the opportunity to enjoy them in other places at other times because someone who loves to play won't limit their playing to only our event. Who knows, you might suddenly find fiddles and banjos appearing out of nowhere right outside your camp.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:22 am

I am not a musician, but it seems to me that the burn offers amazing opportunities to randomly meet other musicians and play with them in an informal matter. At best, this could result in a sort of "master class" effect. I don't like jazz (or it's more accurate to say that I don't get it) but as I understand things there were opportunities to play together as musicians without playing for a paying audience, and that thsi was good for the music and musicians.
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Postby Teo del Fuego » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:43 am

Golden Cafe at 7:30 and Esplanade, has, in year's past, provided instruments and a stage for musicians to use in improvisational jams. Saw some incredibly good stuff there last year.
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Postby BurNER4life » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:04 pm

*Kneeling and bowing to SIMON*

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I'll be out early and am going to thoroughly enjoy watching RS come and go....
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Postby Generic Anonymity » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:52 pm

Doesn't seem like such a big deal to be moved two blocks. I'm with Root Society - they've helped my club in college make it out to the playa twice, and we'll be out there with them again this year.

Maybe the, "im curious, will any of you make the trek 2 streets over to come party with us??" was just intended as a bit of silliness.
They didn't say, "the org shucked us back 2 blocks and you better hang out with us or we won't feel appreciated," but using the quote as some sort of evidence that they're upset sure makes it seem like it was read that way.
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Postby Sail Man » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:33 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:
Eric wrote:Hopefully a camp playing something, oh, I don't know, original will have a shot. Not holding my breath.


Live music, perhaps?


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Postby Sail Man » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:48 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:wow, talk about tempest in a teapot.

Number One, i was merely speculating as to why one of the Most Integral Founding Members would want to end Root Society AS WE NOW KNOW IT...

this person has recently been blessed with the fortunate news of Fatherhood.

It seems quite logical and straightforward to assume that this might play a role in his decision.

that is all....



my god, it's worse than high school.



as far as entitlement goes, EVERY BODY AT ROOT SOCIETY WORKS THEIR ASS OFF, we do that because thats our gift to the citizens of our fair city.

we like doing it, it's fun, and we do it well.

whatever syd's problem with the BMORG is Syd's Problem, not ours.

We have a HUGE Lineup, New Stages and a Massive Fucking Video Wall so the charges of getting stale i hope dont apply to us.

we've always been avis, and hence, we've always tried harder.

well, this year, we are going to RIP THIS MUTHA A NEW ONE


and guess what, No Apologies, No Regrets.

Crystal Method is not a fucking Rumor. Friday Night we Drop The Nagasaki of Sound.

I guess the Truth Hertz...


Good right hook Simon :lol: The OP is going down.....

http://thecrystalmethod.com/index.php/tour/


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Postby Jordan 10-E » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:25 pm

This is a good example of how rumors get started.
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Postby Token » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:40 pm

Aw shucks, it's only a DJ set by TCM, not a full band tour.

I demand a refund!
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:04 am

rumor has it that any unhappy Burners will be re-imbursed or refunded in LarryBills (tm) which are good for one free coffee at center camp or a blow job at first camp.*



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Postby Simon of the Playa » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:07 am

Token wrote:Aw shucks, it's only a DJ set by TCM, not a full band tour.

I demand a refund!



contrary to popular belief amongst some, DJ's are actually people too, they have feelings, you cut them, and they bleed like you and I.





they just dont have belly buttons.
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Postby ygmir » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:09 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:
Token wrote:Aw shucks, it's only a DJ set by TCM, not a full band tour.

I demand a refund!



contrary to popular belief amongst some, DJ's are actually people too, they have feelings, you cut them, and they bleed like you and I.





they just dont have belly buttons.


I thought their belly buttons were just above their asses, where their tails were attached...........dang, suckered in by another myth.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:59 am

eat me, drink me.



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