Handling friends interested in BM?

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Postby Token » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:18 am

My ten year experience on bringing out real world friends to the burn is mostly fail. They usually fall into two fail categories; Sparkle Pony or "OK, done this, it's off my bucket list".

A couple folks made it through with a "let's do this again" but most don't.

Over time, most of the "friends" are no longer friends.

I live in Los Angeles and a big chunk of burners here is the "post raver millitant PLUR nuveau hippie self help I'm a DJ namaste motherfucker" types. There is always Gigsville crowd but just don't jive with the pure fuckoism either. This all leads to a segregation of my Playa friends and real world friends.

My bottom line on Playa induction:

Don't do it. Not worth the effort and likely to epic fail. Burning Man is NOT for most people.

If you are trying to convince your BFF to go, your really looking for a personal security blanket. Fuck the wubby and grow some hair on them peaches.
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Postby curiousgnate » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:04 am

"Leave him alone with his faggot Alliance friends" really fire moose. There are so many better adjectives.
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Postby Fire_Moose » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:20 am

curiousgnate wrote:"Leave him alone with his faggot Alliance friends" really fire moose. There are so many better adjectives.



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Postby archeolojust » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:08 pm

Alliance or Horde, I don't care. I think WOW is lame.

Yeah, he isn't going. Ever. My boyfriend and a good friend from Google-land in Cali who is incredibly self reliant and awesomely helpful are my campmates. Reading over everything as much as I have I agree with most of you. Its not for everyone.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:41 am

Fire_Moose wrote:Leave him alone with his faggot Alliance friends....I'm assuming he plays alliance because of how lame he sounds.
Fifth, oh Fire Moose, did you really just say that?
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Postby thk127 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:09 am

I'm thinking of it like this:
[b]“if you were stranded on a deserted island who would you bring with you?â€
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Postby FaeTora » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:07 pm

I am not sure which is dorkier: the people who live vicariously through WOW or the fact that I had to ask a friend what it was.
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Postby ygmir » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:20 pm

WOW?


please, elucidate.........
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Postby AntiM » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:24 pm

ygmir wrote:WOW?


please, elucidate.........


World of Warcraft game.

Has Night elves and um, things.
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Postby ygmir » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:26 pm

AntiM wrote:
ygmir wrote:WOW?


please, elucidate.........


World of Warcraft game.

Has Night elves and um, things. I've never played, but I do like it in a video now and then:

[youtube]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8456995878011926927#[/youtube]


sometimes, I feel so out of touch...............

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Postby FaeTora » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:28 pm

WOW is World of Warcraft. Its some computer game that some people play to a point that I believe maybe unhealthy. People exchange real money (USD) for fake stuff in the game.

I don't watch TV or play videogames. Well, does Mario Bros. count?
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Postby AntiM » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:32 pm

I couldn't get the link to work right, it might if you copy and paste out of the quote.
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Postby Dr. Pyro » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:33 pm

Don't get down on yourself Ygmir, on "that other board" there was a WOW thread and I also had no idea what it was. I thought at first it was from the old Opie and Anthony Show "Whip'em Out Wednesday" when ladies would flash themselves on the freeway. Sadly that wasn't it either. Though it oughtta be.
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Postby FaeTora » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:37 pm

See, I'd be up for that. Watching it I mean. World of Warcraft, I just don;t understand it. To each their own.
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Postby trystanthegypsy » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:48 am

ANYWAYS back on topic...

I kinda worry about bringing my boyfriend, because he is a procrastinator. He's not very inclined to take the lead on things like improving my shade structure from last year, creating costumes, getting a bike, or things like that. He LOVES the heat but refuses to wear a hat and has to be coaxed into putting on sunscreen, and likes to drink all day at festivals up here. So, I worry that he will overdo it on the Playa, thinking he can handle it, and go down like a sack of potatoes.

So.. I dunno. I know he will love it but he doesn't take initiative to prepare. When does the new survival guide come out again?? Lol.

Also, I think we need to experiment with actually getting a good night's sleep before pack-up.. the last 3 festivals were just torture getting packed up on little to no sleep. We fought like cats. But at least by the end of the summer we have our gear figured out and can basically do it on autopilot :)

Ah, it'll be fine. I just need to stop pulling and let him figure his own stuff out. It'll all be good! As long as he still gives me a couple days on my own on-playa :D
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Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:23 am

Careful, careful, careful. We can be quite blind about the ones we love. "Knowing" that your boyfriend will love it doesn't count as real knowledge. 2002 to 2006 I went, one way or another, to please my husband and had a miserable time. (No regrets, now that I know the end to that story.) It was only when I started attending for my own self that I grew to be a crazy desert rat.
The playa can be very hard on relationships, and expectations and blind spots are a part of that. Thought you'd want to know ahead of time.
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Postby Optic » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:39 pm

Though this year will be my first burn, so far I feel like it's been easy to tell who I would enjoy bringing along with me.

They're the ones who, when they hear me rambling about Burning Man, say something like "That sounds fucking awesome," and starts figuring out what they'd need to do if they wanted to go.

On the other hand, I also have friends where I think "Well, they're a really good friend, and I'd love for them to go," but there's something in the back of my mind that says "They wouldn't like it," or "They'd flake out."

Also, the people who still seem psyched about going after they've read all the stuff in the survival guide :roll:
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Postby gerlachedNloaded » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:34 am

go by yourself. keep the population down and the half-assed mooching hippies out. :D
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Postby CLARKcon » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:49 am

Very entertaining thread, indeed :D We (COFFEE CAMP) have aquired 1 new campmate a year the last two years (eventually working up to a 10 person rad camp!) It's a camp deceision (for personality mix & flow) and is someone who naturally, willingly wants to go (no "kinda-sorta/maybe want to go" types--if ya have to beg someone to go, than you're trying to hard :) There is always a huge amount of respect/communication at camp--care about eachother's well being, and are big fans and supporters to others ideas. Have to be someone you can sincerely look upon like you do for yourself...e n j o y---
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Postby knowmad » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:28 am

Optic wrote: ...

Also, the people who still seem psyched about going after they've read all the stuff in the survival guide :roll:
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Postby ju1ce » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:12 am

I'd like to bring my GF to the regionals, if only because she wouldn't complain about so much time apart.

She's not outdoorsy, but is generally pretty self reliant. I have a hard time seeing how someone could NOT have a good time, especially at the regionals, which are a kinder, gentler sort of burn.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:16 am

I"ve never been to a regional, but there are plenty of real reasons not to like the burn.
I myself can be quite sensitive about noise; there are restaurants I don't eat at because listening to the clatter really bugs me. I'm not good in crowds, either. Heat or other weather. Introversion. Not liking drunks and e-tards.

It simply isn't a universal experience, although large festivals do seem to be a basic option in human societies. I just wish we were a little better at understanding taht it's not for everyone.
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Postby Eric » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:01 am

theCryptofishist wrote:I'm not good in crowds, either.


I can testify to that! You zipped right by me at Westfield yesterday as I shouted "Fishy!!"

The tourists looked very confused at me, I must admit.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:51 pm

Eric wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:I'm not good in crowds, either.


I can testify to that! You zipped right by me at Westfield yesterday as I shouted "Fishy!!"

The tourists looked very confused at me, I must admit.

Where's Westfield?
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Postby Eric » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:03 pm

SF- Nordstroms etc. Market & 5th, 5ish in the afternoon...
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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:08 pm

Okay, yeah. I checked out the new Dick Blick, ate something horrible in the food court, took the wacky private elevator to BART and proceeded to block it all out of memory.
Sorry, I would have loved to chat...


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Postby Eric » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:32 pm

good god, we had almost the same itinerary- I checked out Blick (even though they're the bastards who laid me off & demoted my boss) then hit the mall for new ear-buds.

You went wizzing past & by the time I turned around shouting "Fishy" you were gone from sight. *sigh*

Almost like a celebrity sighting..... :D
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:45 pm

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Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:34 pm

Sorry I missed you.
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Postby jkisha » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:56 pm

ygmir wrote:
AntiM wrote:
ygmir wrote:WOW?


please, elucidate.........


World of Warcraft game.

Has Night elves and um, things. I've never played, but I do like it in a video now and then:

[youtube]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8456995878011926927#[/youtube]


sometimes, I feel so out of touch...............

*crawls back under rock*


LOL Don't feel too bad, I didn't know what it was either.

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