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Postby Bob » Thu May 13, 2010 10:25 am

You'd think the Earth Guardians would know whathafuck clay is out there.

Anyhow, what's blowing around above the lakebed isn't necessarily the same as what's in the lakebed.
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Postby gyre » Thu May 13, 2010 10:35 am

I always take as much water as I can and pour it in the bottom of the lake.


Isn't there a history society for the area that sets up at burning man?
Maybe they have more geologic info?
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Postby ^Rhino! » Thu May 13, 2010 10:43 am

The Earth Guardians?

No, they're pushing the 'reduce, reuse, recycle, LNT' mantra.

You mean the BRC Division of Geology.

We've only been in existence for a year.

WTF, it's a do-ocracy, right?

I had 50 t-shirts printed up and gave 'em away.

THIS year, I'm printing more shirts. Same motto. The logo has been redesigned professionally by someone who does logo design for a living.

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And since I paid for the t-shirts, I'm Chief Geologist.

Last year's main permit activity was informing the Pancake Playhouse at 9:00 plaza that due to new BLM guidelines they could only pound their tent stakes in 3" total.

I couldn't stop laughing about that one.
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Postby Teo del Fuego » Thu May 13, 2010 10:44 am

Bob wrote:I use vinegar on my hands after working with concrete, but never on the playa. All I've used on the playa is water for washing, quickly followed by Neutrogena hand cream, which is good for about two weeks in my experience, before I get cracks on my hands, face, asshole, etc.


I bet you put a LOT of Neutrogena on your asshole
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Postby Snow » Thu May 13, 2010 11:10 am

Damn I missed out on the stake regulation fun and the t-shirt!?!?!
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Postby Bob » Thu May 13, 2010 11:18 am

It's true, the stake guideline is in place so don't adversely impact one of the more prevalent minerals -- leverite.
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Postby Snow » Thu May 13, 2010 11:55 am

yes we must protect our precious leverite deposits.
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Postby ^Rhino! » Thu May 13, 2010 11:59 am

Last year's citations were delivered as warnings only.

This year, I understand that DPW will be involved in Code Enforcement.

But that's just the rumor I hear.
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Re: The word on playa dust and links for the newbie -

Postby Sail Man » Thu May 13, 2010 2:08 pm

dragonpilot wrote:
Ugly Dougly wrote:
^Rhino! wrote:...Diphosphorus pentoxide goes in apatite, a common igneous accessory mineral and detrital in this case. Titanium dioxide is probably rutile or anatase, also common igneous accessories....


Whoo-doggie, Rhino! Them is purty words! You use your mouth purtier than a three-dollar French whore! I'm all wet over here. :lol:


Dougly...I'm not coming to meet 'n greet if you keep talking like that!


Well I sure the hell am! I'm not going to be getting all hot and bothered without a little relief after all the foreplay.

Rhino, good to see you here rocking our fucking eplaya world :wink:
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Postby Fire_Moose » Thu May 13, 2010 2:21 pm

I thought the 3' rule was so no one hits any buried gas lines...
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Postby Bob » Thu May 13, 2010 8:24 pm

Don't laugh, I have the distinction of having drilled into one of the Center Camp electrical grid lines 9 or 10 years ago. Having rainbow spaghetti come up in the auger when you're setting posts for a stupid shade structure in a vast desert is not a pleasant feeling.
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Postby Bob » Thu May 13, 2010 8:27 pm

...ie, call before you dig...
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Postby Snow » Thu May 13, 2010 8:42 pm

at least its not the dreaded tink hiss of a gas line. I've only been on a drill rig that hit a water line before, that was scary enough. USA marks were off...
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Postby ibdave » Thu May 13, 2010 9:35 pm

Bob wrote:...ie, call before you dig...



Dial 811 before you dig... 8) 8) :shock:
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Postby ygmir » Thu May 13, 2010 9:39 pm

I ran a large trencher long ago for a company........cut a 500 pair phone cable once.......and, a 2" high pressure gas line......both, location errors on the utilities part......hitting the gas line, was, "exciting"......the hiss was loud, and, the smell strong.....I jumped and ran.......

on the cable, like you said, the multi colored spaghetti, was un nerving.......
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Postby Snow » Thu May 13, 2010 9:43 pm

I had to drill next to a major military fiber optic line that happened to run through my cleanup site in Fallon. I was sweating bullets the whole time. Luckly there was no incident.
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Postby motskyroonmatick » Thu May 13, 2010 10:25 pm

Snow wrote:I had to drill next to a major military fiber optic line that happened to run through my cleanup site in Fallon. I was sweating bullets the whole time. Luckly there was no incident.


Did you pothole the fiber line or did you just go off of locates? We have houses blown up by fiber borers hitting natural gas lines at the rate of 2 to 3 a year round here.

Worked in excavating for 7 years. Seen a few hit but saved more improperly located utilities than I can remember. Thanks to a really good operator and my paying attention to the toe of the ditch.
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Postby Snow » Thu May 13, 2010 10:35 pm

For that project we did an airknife overbore of our borehole to 5'. But that is a pretty new development. Not too long ago we would just go off the location markings. After hitting a few utilities we began to take pictures of our boring location in relation to nearby markings. Then we began the overboring. Most of our projects were state funded and they would not pay for the overboring, but we did it anyway, especially with the military lines nearby.
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Postby motskyroonmatick » Thu May 13, 2010 11:30 pm

It the air knife a vacuum excavator/vactor truck? Those work great.
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Postby ^Rhino! » Fri May 14, 2010 4:39 am

"Don't laugh, I have the distinction of having drilled into one of the Center Camp electrical grid lines 9 or 10 years ago. Having rainbow spaghetti come up in the auger when you're setting posts for a stupid shade structure in a vast desert is not a pleasant feeling."

Bob, bob, bob.......I feel your pain........
(Pardon me for my patent Democratic turned Do-ocratic response)

I've excavated in the default world for nearly 18 yrs., and I've never understood utility strikes, never having had one (and I've done literally thousands of borings over the years.) Is BRC a member of one-call in the state of Nevada?

Or is it still safety third?
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Postby gyre » Fri May 14, 2010 4:57 am

The map for the water mains at burning man has been long lost in antiquity.
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Postby ygmir » Fri May 14, 2010 6:40 am

we were trenching through a town nearby once.
The boss decided, since we were working overnight (to avoid traffic on the main st.), that, we'd just cut the clay sewer lines, and, repair as we went by...........it worked fine, mostly, since, most businesses and the few homes were gone or asleep........

we sent the new guy down to repair the line from the theater.......just as the "midnight matinee" ended...........chuckling..........
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Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri May 14, 2010 10:08 am

"Overboring" - I learned a new word.
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Postby Snow » Fri May 14, 2010 10:42 am

just you wait Rhino! Most of the "utilities" we have hit are on-site and not part of locates, and usually poorly mapped in the first place, especially sprinkler systems.
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Postby Mojojita » Fri May 14, 2010 11:36 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:"Overboring" - I learned a new word.


Yes! And even more thought provoking --- "Borehole". (I think I met her once....)
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Postby Bob » Fri May 14, 2010 11:40 am

Your geology camp should bring a metal detector, might find some meteorites.
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Postby Bob » Fri May 14, 2010 12:02 pm

Teo del Fuego wrote:I bet you put a LOT of Neutrogena on your asshole


I am Boreholio. I need smectite for my bunghole.
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Postby Snow » Fri May 14, 2010 12:27 pm

Instead of a dust collection system DPW has decided instead to pave the playa instead. Next year there will be a giant dome erected to keep the wind out.
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Postby ^Rhino! » Fri May 14, 2010 8:06 pm

[quote="Bob"]Your geology camp should bring a metal detector, might find some meteorites.[/quote]

Bob, try again. You've been listening to Ian Kluft again, have you? The whole story there is NOT pretty. The guy gets credit for trying, but he has found NOTHING that would indicate any kind of strike, let alone the kind of strike he's talking about. He's following the rule that geologists of true stripe try to avoid, i.e 'I wouldn't have seen it if I hadn't BELIEVED it. '

I did a post on this on the Burningman tribe some time back about the proposed meteorite impact in the Black Rock Desert. The guy has even been publicized in [i]Discover[/i] magazine, in the December 2008 issue right here:

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/dec/19 ... tart:int=1

The blurb they did on him made me laugh my ass off.

What's scary is that people are actually listening to it. This kind of pseudoscience is the worst sort of malarkey I have to deal with.

See what's been done so far in an attempt to prove it:

http://www.blackrocknevada.info/impact-crater/

Sorry, Bob, but it REALLY HACKS ME OFF!
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Postby motskyroonmatick » Fri May 14, 2010 10:58 pm

Perhaps I am mistaken here but I believe Bob is referring to normal small meteorites not parts of a larger strike.
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