Simon of the Playa wrote:it's the chinese AIIZ, it's ALWAYS the chinese.
they know you know they know you know.
i only use Commodore 2000 original hardware so i never get touched.
Dork wrote:As far as upgrading or changing to a new type of forum goes, here's how I see it.
The process of upgrading would be a pain in the ass. I have somewhat limited access to the servers. Enough to run queries on the phpbb database and modify files within the current eplaya directory but that's it. I'd want to be able to create a new db/directory to play around in and do a test run. Maybe even give users a chance to look at and make comments. Trying to get additional access to BM servers is usually a big hassle and takes a long time with many iterations.
Those who love the new software will pat me on the back then tell me what else I should be doing with it. Those who hate the new software will piss and moan, and tell me what I should do to fix it. Many of the suggestions from these groups will be rather difficult to implement and/or contradict with each other. I'll inevitably piss some people off by not implementing their suggestion, or not doing it properly, or doing it too slowly. Some will bitch and ask for the old stuff back. Most won't care either way.
In the end, we'd have a site that looks a little more modern and has a few new features that won't necessarily make the forum any more useful or generate any more traffic.
So I weigh the almost certain large pain in my ass of upgrading versus the occasional whine about things being out of date and it's an easy decision.
As I've said before, if anyone would like to step up and take over the reigns and can make it through the vetting process (which means you haven't royally pissed off anyone in the org yet and are patient enough to wait months for things to go through) I'd be happy to help you through the process.
Apollonaris Zeus wrote:don't spend any of your unpaid time to improve the forum. If you're on the payroll that's fine, if not screw it!
I gotta wang here..
A new chapter seems to be opening in the saga of the Wang VS!
DVD Burner wrote:I dont but there are a few haters on this board.
DVD Burner wrote:First off...a bunch of irrelevant stuff... what is missing?
convince the org they need to replace a bunch of network cards, load a bunch of software patch modules, and reflash firmware on network equiptment to solve a phpbb spamming problem that has already been easily fixed by one person loading some phpbb modules.
i will provide you with the phone number of cameragrl (the current paid tech lead of the org), cat (the current sysadmin lead), their co-located hosting and connection service provider, and will hunt down and give you the net admin contact. they will drop previous negative attitudes had of you, and be able to directly talk despite the first two mentioned they want to avoid anything to do with you.
really, its not anyones problem on eplaya because others simply dont listen to you. so move on and stop rambling here, or try and get actively involved with them.
jkisha wrote:Did you guys ever date? You both sound like lovers scorned. Now stop it, both of you!
Toolmaker wrote:While I have no personal grudges to hold against anyone it is kind of annoying seeing this go on for soo many years. This is the sort of infighting that makes us all look bad. This goes wayy beyond the occasional blowup that dies down amongst users within a few days..
ygmir wrote:Does AZ post funny stuff?.........
spectabillis wrote:Toolmaker wrote:While I have no personal grudges to hold against anyone it is kind of annoying seeing this go on for soo many years. This is the sort of infighting that makes us all look bad. This goes wayy beyond the occasional blowup that dies down amongst users within a few days..
unfortunately thats very true - petty and infantile true. the eplaya administrative decision was made long ago by org senior staff to simply avoid the permanent banning or explicit exclusion of individuals, due to the general beliefs based on the ten principals.
this naturally gave rise to an acceptance atmosphere of some seriously antisocial behavior, which plagues not only this board, but is symptomatic to certain areas of burningman as a community. we have all heard and seen the drama in various forms throughout different groups, but places like tribe and eplaya are the worst examples because they provide both a public audience, and a forum that can actually encourage this behavior because it quickly attracts others prone to the same tendencies.
its been one of the biggest lessons in what not to do that i document in online social networking.
Toolmaker wrote:Certainly a test of the radical inclusion principle. Why it needs to be tested in such ways I doubt I will ever know. But I always wind up making mental connection to censorship arguements and coming up with the same conclusion. If ya don't like it dont read it. We have the ignore feature for users that choose not to be bothered.. I recall in the past some folks were actually curious as to how many people were ignoring them. Rather than try to be more civil which makes a hell of a lot more sense.
. I'm just glad the actual playa is alot different.
DVD Burner wrote:
The shit really should stop.
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