Ideas for 2004...

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Postby PJ » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:05 pm

An interesting experiement would be a year with no theme whatsoever.
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Postby precipitate » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:09 pm

But, but, but how would we know what to <i>do</i> without a theme? There would be no coherent progression to the art and ohmigod I'd have to think for myself! Pardon me a moment, I feel faint.
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Postby nodule » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:21 pm

Ardust and Ivy are correct. The sign posts that were in the middle of the road, on Creed (and maybe elsewhere, I don't know) became major hazards once the signs were stolen. I was camped within 50 feet of one, and once the sign was gone (stolen by someone in a white golf cart, at that), I witnessed a painful collision and several near misses. (These people had lights, but a long slender pole, with no reflectivity, was virtually invisible.)

After seeing this, I tried to pull the post out - with no success, so I put a blinking light on it - and it was stolen within 5 minutes. later, I saw the post had been moved around some (hit again? someone elses attempt to remove the hazzard?), so I tried to pull it out again. This time it was loose enough and came out.

What some of ya'll are missing, is that if you pound these f*ckers into the ground, you bear some responsibility for them. Be responsible for *your* actions. If we were talking about my tent stake rebar, I think you'd see the point more clearly. OK, so you didn't consider the change in hazard status that occurs when the nice white sign gets taken off. That's understandable, but now you know, so you might consider doing something about it, instead of treating people who have pointed out a serious safety concern with contempt.

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Postby Dyna-lite » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:29 pm

LOL precipitate.....my thoughts exactly. What did they ever do back in the 90s hmmm.

On the other hand, groups like the Extra Action Marching Band who spent a lot of time raiseing cash to build the Contessa should be able to use there "art car/ship" more than one year. Heck, I'm sure we'll be seeing that ship sail the playa for years and I have no problem with that.

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Postby PJ » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:32 pm

nodule wrote:What some of ya'll are missing, is that if you pound these f*ckers into the ground, you bear some responsibility for them...you might consider doing something about it, instead of treating people who have pointed out a serious safety concern with contempt.


Of course, the white street signs aren't supposed to be stolen in the first place. What makes anybody think they're giveaways, just because the text upon them changes from year-to-year? Anybody that's waiting for an ambulance to arrive at their theme camp and bleeds out because the emergency crew gets lost due to a lack of signs might have an opinion about that if they weren't dead.
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Postby TestesInSac » Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:43 pm

precipitate wrote:But, but, but how would we know what to <i>do</i> without a theme? There would be no coherent progression to the art and ohmigod I'd have to think for myself! Pardon me a moment, I feel faint.


Damn, I like you.
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Postby chloe_dancer » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:25 pm

i still like my idea of co-ed naked beer slip-n-slide
i feel there is an angel in me whom i am constantly shocking
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Postby nymphgonebad » Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:09 pm

are we drinking the beer - or sliding in it? seems like a waste of beer and sticky to boot.

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Postby stuart » Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:02 pm

I found this years theme to be curmudgeony. Still, it is nice to have something to react to and I am happy to have a rough framework to play with when I please and ignore when I please. If you have a consistent schtick year in and year out I can see why you might not give a shit about a unified theme. Respect that for some of us it is something extra to play with in our projects.
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Postby Bob » Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:24 am

Reflective tape doesn't work. Klean gave up on it years ago. Gets covered with dust, unsticks or flakes off, and is damned expensive for the hundreds of stakes in the city.

I've only managed to run into one in [...fingercounting...] eight fucking years, and that was while driving in from the Twelve-Mile gate in a white-out two weeks before the event opened last year.

But go ahead with your campaign. The event is so gay, I'm sure they'll decide DPW'll have to powder-coat the T-stakes in Rave Lime Splash [TM] and put flashing solar tits all over'em.
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Postby nodule » Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:52 am

..Or they could just not pound stakes into the middle of roads. I witnessed no problems with street signs (which were on the corners), only with the pole that was smack in the middle of Absurd, at Creed (at the entrance to Absurd Plaza). I assume it, and others like it, were put there to discourage drivers from continuing any farther. That seems to be what could use some re-thinking.

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Themes

Postby nodule » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:02 am

I've always felt that the broader a theme is the better. The more room for bizarre tangents and unthought of connections, the better it has done it's job. Of course, the best theme would be none at all, but failing that, it is always within our power to broaden it, satirize it, or ignore it.
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Postby III » Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:44 pm

>so gay

bad year bob?
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Postby Halo Joe » Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:46 pm

III wrote:>so gay

bad year bob?


"Bad-Year Bob" ... sounds like a "playa name" ...
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Postby Lydia Love » Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:59 pm

"playa name"


One of our Neighbors introduced himself as "Dennis Tremendous" and when we gave our names as "Bill and Lydia" He said, "otherwise known as...?"

It took us a while to realize we had blown this guy's expectations that everyone would take on a playa name of some sort.

Sometimes I wonder why I bothered with any kind of handle *here*. It always feels weird when I try to rename myself - and nicknames have very rarely stuck.

<shrug>
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Postby Halo Joe » Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:20 pm

Yeah, mine has just kinda evolved. Most people just call me "Halo" or "Joe," regardless of whether I'm on the playa or at work. (Neither is really a "playa name" anyway.)
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Postby nymphgonebad » Sat Sep 06, 2003 7:48 pm

has this turned into the "explain your playa handle" thread or do we need to start a new topic?


princess strych-9 was given to me by one of the many meth phreaks i met when i first moved to sf. he started out by calling me pinky ( optimitically, i'm sure ) and when i ended up keeping the pink to myself, he redubbed
me the poison princess.
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Postby Bob » Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:04 am

> bad year bob?

Wouldn't know.

Most of us on the temple/pedestal/platform/pyramid/whatever crew worked through Wednesday, and in my case Thursday, and this was some time after [xxx], but I did manage to build bomb-proof windbreak and shade in camp before doing a hell-ride back to the city to talk the gf into coming because only days before she said she was too busy, except when I got there all I found was a damned note, and I'd apparently missed her by about six hours because she panicked and grabbed the cat and took a ride from a friend, except that when I went through Gate in a howling sandstorm they said I couldn't leave the ticket at will-call, so imagine the hilarity that ensued, not to mention that when I got back to the playa the cat slipped her leash and got "lost", prompting the gf to put PSAs on the radio and notes everywhere, except the cat was cooling herself under a car two camps away, after making us the poster-child object lessons of you-know-what.

Oh... and DPW is sort of the same as it ever was, albeit that there was a corporate takeover by HelCo.

But fuck me sideways with a two-by-four... can't remember the definition of "mercy" I told Cowboy Carl... it'll come back to me...
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Postby Bob » Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:15 am

Ideas for 2004?

Segment 66 (of 99) of the Smiley Cafe / BurnCo Office Tower Art-Car-Only Bridge:

<img src="http://www.sonic.net/~bullnose/03/03may21.jpg">

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Postby Peace_Tolero » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:30 pm

Lydia Love wrote:
"playa name"

when we gave our names as "Bill and Lydia" He said, "otherwise known as...?"

<snip>nicknames have very rarely stuck.


Nicknames
have to be given.

He could have given you a gift...




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The idea

Postby Zona » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:02 pm

Different types of love as a theme.
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Postby nymphgonebad » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:49 pm

zona - you rule!!!
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Postby Isotopia » Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:01 pm

One Word: Larryland
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Re: The idea

Postby TestesInSac » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:07 pm

Zona wrote:Different types of love as a theme.


Petting Zoo camp could serve multiple roles...
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LOL

Postby Zona » Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:26 pm

And that would be on the corner of "brotherly love" and.........wait, I might be thinking of the other camp.....
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Re: LOL

Postby TestesInSac » Mon Sep 08, 2003 9:57 am

Zona wrote:And that would be on the corner of "brotherly love" and.........wait, I might be thinking of the other camp.....


I can just see it: The Feely-delphia Petting Zoo and Speed Dating Camp.
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Postby Jane Eric » Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:11 am

Wasn't Mr. Larry quoted somewhere someplace that next year's theme would be "Beyond Burnt Out"? That's what we've been calling 2004.
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Postby Borris » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:32 pm

What about the Past as a theme?

"A long time ago babe
Before you were born dude"

Maybee even formulate it into BC only?

BRC BC

Ancient Rome, Greece, Phonekia, Japan, China, Native America and so forth.
Shit, where was i for the last week... ehm...
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Re: Ideas for 2004...

Postby officer_monkey » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:47 pm

Ardust Plaza wrote:2) "What's in this camp? Oh, another techno sound system. What a surprise."
After wandering the esplanade at 4am and seeing almost as many DJ's practicing their mixing as there were dancers, my first thought on this subject was "Why not make next year's theme something to do with the sun and ban all non-alternative powered sound systems?"



actually, that what was mostly breakbeat and psy-trance. i've heard only one techno set thurs. am at sol system (some brit lady dj - pretty good).
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Postby precipitate » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:55 pm

> was mostly breakbeat and psy-trance. i've heard only one techno set

To the uninitiated, you just said, "was mostly wawawawa and wawawawa. i've only heard one wawawawa set."
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