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A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby uncle sticky » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:50 pm

Asking to borrow stuff, while technically interacting with other members of the community, is NOT participating
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby misfit » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:10 pm

if you ask for my help to set up your shade, and then you wander off while i'm pounding rebar.
i will dissassemble your camp and move it to deep deep playa.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby jella » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:14 pm

misfit wrote:if you ask for my help to set up your shade, and then you wander off while i'm pounding rebar.
i will dissassemble your camp and move it to deep deep playa.

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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby Jackass » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:18 pm

misfit wrote:if you ask for my help to set up your shade, and then you wander off while i'm pounding rebar.
i will dissassemble your camp and move it to deep deep playa.



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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby wh..sh » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:51 pm

uncle sticky wrote:Asking to borrow stuff, while technically interacting with other members of the community, is NOT participating

You mean, I can't tell you how awesome your costume looks and sit down for dinner? That's bull!
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby junglesmacks » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:58 pm

SHUT UP, HIPPIE.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby illy dilly » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:04 pm

Just because our evap pond is empty and looks to be working well, does not mean that you need to add your gray water to it!
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby stew » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:05 pm

wh..sh wrote:
uncle sticky wrote:Asking to borrow stuff, while technically interacting with other members of the community, is NOT participating

You mean, I can't tell you how awesome your costume looks and sit down for dinner? That's bull!

BTW, I just used your camp's shower. Since you have a small evap pond, I can take a five gallon shower, right?
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:46 pm

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wh..sh wrote:
uncle sticky wrote:Asking to borrow stuff, while technically interacting with other members of the community, is NOT participating

You mean, I can't tell you how awesome your costume looks and sit down for dinner? That's bull!

BTW, I just used your camp's shower. Since you have a small evap pond, I can take a five gallon shower, right?

I'm a wildly active and forgetful person. That huge bag of moop I left at your camp was totally an accident. I didn't mean to saddle you with my stuff.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby Lonesomebri » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:56 pm

It's strange out on the playa, but usually lines for stuff form with the end you would join being at the farthest from the item being given away. Like, the line doesn't start at the table where they're handing out snowcones, and all those people are just hanging out in a single file formation in front of it. Even if it's Cherry syrup you want on the snowcone, pushing in front of others while saying Namaste is frowned on. Weird that even with a gift economy and people giving stuff away, you have to still take others into account.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby BBadger » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:13 pm

wh..sh wrote:
uncle sticky wrote:Asking to borrow stuff, while technically interacting with other members of the community, is NOT participating

You mean, I can't tell you how awesome your costume looks and sit down for dinner? That's bull!


Hey that's better than the dirty hippie who just sat down for dinner without a single word except "I lost my voice" (with a mouth full of burger) after being asked what the hell he was doing and that he should leave. He did leave us with a lovely hand gesture when we chased his hippie ass out.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:20 pm

"If I had a hammer" I'd let you hammer my rebar.

Except I don't have rebar, or a hammer.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:40 pm

Your best puppy dog look doesn't make you appealing, just pathetic.


Unless, of course, you're Snowball...
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby Lonesomebri » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:25 pm

Slack-jaw with a glow stick is not a costume.

And, yeah, I actually brought that bike you're on all the way out here to the burn for me to use....
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippie newbie arty fucks

Postby Bob » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:58 pm

uncle sticky wrote:Asking to borrow stuff, while technically interacting with other members of the community, is NOT participating


Then why is aggressively panhandling on the internets for your personal project considered the height of participation?
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby trilobyte » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:27 am

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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby AntiM » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:21 am

Just because I'm giving away art does not mean you can go into my trailer and take my PVC pipes for your shade structure you forgot to make arrangements to bring.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby Lonesomebri » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:21 am

The whole Leave No Trace thing, it includes all the crap you left in those filthy ice coolers you're looking at in the rear-view as you drive towards the exit.

"Hey, I'm sure someone would really dig this half full jar of pickles, I'll gift it to the clean-up people by leaving it with this bag full of other unwanted shit .....err.....gifts. What a magnificent ass et to the community I am."

What you leave behind isn't considered a gift outside of some internal justification.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby FeetOfClay » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:32 am

Asking to borrow stuff, while technically interacting with other members of the community, is NOT participating


Actually, I have been packing EXTRAS of items (sunblock, snacks, even costume pieces) to GIFT to others in need or who have forgotten theirs.
Oh, and I am a "newbie". But wait, that's a contradiction in terms according to your OP.

Honestly, I pray that all us newbies this year really BRING IT to finally shut up all the self-righteous old-timers who assume all newbs are ill-informed spectator morons.

In all systems, there is always tension between the old and the new. But I never dreamed that tension would be so pronounced and predictable in a culture as creative and open as Burning Man. Wow. :roll:
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby Lonesomebri » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:42 am

FeetOfClay wrote:
Asking to borrow stuff, while technically interacting with other members of the community, is NOT participating


Actually, I have been packing EXTRAS of items But I never dreamed that tension would be so pronounced and predictable in a culture as creative and open as Burning Man. Wow. :roll:


Hey, no one is talking about you......it's those other guys......
'cause no doubt you are bringing it. That's why you can laugh along with this.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby FeetOfClay » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:48 am

yeah, yeah, i guess so...

it's just that i hate that newbs seem to have such a bad reputation preceeding us before we even get there. :x
I just have this sense that of all the newbs on playa this year, it's gonna be the 5% of us who mooch food, clog potties, and photograph people's tits without asking that will be remembered and noticed as "newbs".

i am just expecting all kinds of judgement and labeling everytime i tell someone "hi, this is my first burn" :(
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby RedHeaven » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:49 am

If I don't know you and you ask me for weed, I will call you a narc. Thats just the law of the fucking land.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby misfit » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:56 am

its your actions, not your time on playa that labels you a "newb"......
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby mudpuppy000 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:16 am

FeetOfClay wrote:i am just expecting all kinds of judgement and labeling everytime i tell someone "hi, this is my first burn" :(


Eplaya is not really anything like the playa itself. You're more likely to get a hug than a snarky comment out there in the desert. :)
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby AntiM » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:38 am

Some people manage to be idiots year after year. Some people get it before they ever arrive.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby RedHeaven » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:56 am

If someone calls you a Stealth Virgin, then you're doing it right. :mrgreen:
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby fresh » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:15 am

NAMASTE!!! Why is there all this hate, burningman is suppose to be about love!!! If I am hungry and you have food why would you not feed me?? If I'm thirsty why would you not give me some water, I am sure you have a bottle or two to hand out!! I did bring some great gifts including yummy candy, Is that not what this is all about, you know trading stuff!! If you come to my camp, I do have some lovely feather headdresses!!! Take out my trash and you got one!!! Come on you have room in that big truck of yours!!

BTW, I am still looking for a ride from SF, I will have next to nothing, except a backpack. FIlled with candy!!! I can give a few $$$ for gas, like $20, and all the candy you can eat! NAMASTE!!!
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby Jackass » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:23 am

FeetOfClay wrote:
i am just expecting all kinds of judgement and labeling everytime i tell someone "hi, this is my first burn" :(



You won't have to tell anybody anything, it'll be evident by the bewilderment in your eyes. (Wheather you like it or not)
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby Nipple » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:24 am

mudpuppy000 wrote:
FeetOfClay wrote:i am just expecting all kinds of judgement and labeling everytime i tell someone "hi, this is my first burn" :(


Eplaya is not really anything like the playa itself. You're more likely to get a hug than a snarky comment out there in the desert. :)


If you get a snarky comment, that's ok too. They were probably trying to be friendly.
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Re: A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

Postby wh..sh » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:24 am

FeetOfClay wrote:it's just that i hate that newbs seem to have such a bad reputation preceeding us before we even get there. :x
I just have this sense that of all the newbs on playa this year, it's gonna be the 5% of us who mooch food, clog potties, and photograph people's tits without asking that will be remembered and noticed as "newbs".

i am just expecting all kinds of judgement and labeling everytime i tell someone "hi, this is my first burn" :(

Oh please! you are over-reacting with the whole newbie thing. I was a newbie last year and no one gave a crap about it.
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