2011 MOOP Map Live

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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby hookahdude » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:58 am

junglesmacks wrote:
hookahdude wrote:Gee, what a surprise.... a sound camp is solid red. The areas across the playa outside the sound camps (being 10ish o'clock methinks) were red and, the new rating, black.


Just sayin.


Au contraire. I see green all along the 2 side. Not just the sound camps in yellow with many in green. Lets keep it in perspective here.


I think it is in perspective. My post specified any red offenders, not just the sound camps. I merely took a free and available snark shot at an easy target.

So there.

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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby AntiM » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:01 am

Where our mister dripped, I found a nest of black hair about a quarter inch under the playa. Plenty of old MOOP under our footprint. We MOOPed gray carpet tufts when we pulled up our vinyl floors, which was weird, because we didn't bring carpet this year, much less grey carpet (in the past, ours was blue or playa colored). All three of us criss-crossed our area repeatedly, and Larry says he broke up the tire marks.

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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby jkisha » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:03 am

That is always my biggest fear. After you leave, you don't know nor have any control of what somebody might dump on your site. It definitely would be nice to know exactly what caused you to get less then green. I'm anxiously awaiting our mark and, like you, we know we left the space totally MOOP free. (including fixing any scars from tires, water, etc.)

pinemom wrote:Well considering all the camp bars in the last 6 years Ive cleaned up after and always got Green, this year was no different in the way we left it, this yr we even moved all vehicles and mooped again. there was nothing!!!


So to wake up to a big yellow was a fucking slap in the face!!!!

and worse....they dont even tell you WHAT made the mark down!!!! I need answers! DAMNIT ALL TO HELL JIM!
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby Dustdevil » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:17 am

Well Pinemom, I guess I am in good company. My camp has been green since it was started six years ago. I was on Playa until Wednesday and I personally walked the entire camp. In fact we did it two directions. The entire camp is yellow with a tiny red dot. I was really proud of the job our people did. On my final walk I only found a few small items.

Now This! I am hanging my head in shame.

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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby trilobyte » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:21 am

@junglesmacks, it's also worth noting that on the 2:00 side, only Disorient had things set up on the other side of the street.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby Drawingablank » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:30 am

Now I'm starting to be a bit concerned - our camp was only a 30 x 30 foot square and we broke camp and packed up in daylight and were very thorough in mooping.

But this is the first I recall hearing about tire scars (I may have missed something about this). Is this referring to ordinary tire prints? Or something more dire?

We quite literally pulled head in 5 feet off the road and that was the extent of our vehicle use for the week. If I recall correctly it didn't even break up the cracked surface.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby d6 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:42 am

wayback when we used to camp out in the black rock, close to ttitd, it went from occasional moop - carpets fibers and the odd can, bottle,gun shell or fire remnant, and we never attributed much to ttitd when we did our own sweeps, as it could have been left by drunks with guns, landspeeder/sailers, locals, chuds...
we just didnt like seeing garbage.

it really just comes down to the person - the same tribe that throws sh!t out of their car window, to leaving sh!t at any beach, will do the same in brc, as its all about their convenience.
i would have no problem donating to the camp that straps these offenders down on an evap tarp underneath a trailer/rv potty, and let the septic tank drain onto their faces.
it could be "performance art", billed as an "homage to throbbing gristle"

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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:20 am

hookahdude wrote:Gee, what a surprise.... a sound camp is solid red. The areas across the playa outside the sound camps were red and, the new rating, black.

Not a new rating, actually. Just a seldom used one. For extra-offensive messes. I think leaking a quart of oil would also get you black.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:26 am

d6 wrote:it really just comes down to the person - the same tribe that throws sh!t out of their car window, to leaving sh!t at any beach, will do the same in brc, as its all about their convenience.

There's a book by the Arizona Garbage Project (back at archeology, again) called Rubbish! that was a real eye-opener. Basically, I got the feeling that we, as a species, are a garbage producing animal. We often moved from one campsite to another when there was too much crap a stone's throw from our current resting place. Not that I think that that makes it okay, but perhaps we deserve to have some compassion for ourselves, for having to fight an uphill battle with our outdated nature.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby jkisha » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:36 am

If you park your car or truck all week on the playa and don't move it, you will find that there are black tire marks where the car/truck was parked. Those need to be raked away.
Drawingablank wrote:Now I'm starting to be a bit concerned - our camp was only a 30 x 30 foot square and we broke camp and packed up in daylight and were very thorough in mooping.

But this is the first I recall hearing about tire scars (I may have missed something about this). Is this referring to ordinary tire prints? Or something more dire?

We quite literally pulled head in 5 feet off the road and that was the extent of our vehicle use for the week. If I recall correctly it didn't even break up the cracked surface.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby Drawingablank » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:25 am

jkisha wrote:If you park your car or truck all week on the playa and don't move it, you will find that there are black tire marks where the car/truck was parked. Those need to be raked away.
Drawingablank wrote:Now I'm starting to be a bit concerned - our camp was only a 30 x 30 foot square and we broke camp and packed up in daylight and were very thorough in mooping.

But this is the first I recall hearing about tire scars (I may have missed something about this). Is this referring to ordinary tire prints? Or something more dire?

We quite literally pulled head in 5 feet off the road and that was the extent of our vehicle use for the week. If I recall correctly it didn't even break up the cracked surface.


Oh crap! I wish I had known to look for that. We pulled out at 4 A.M. and I was so busy trying to avoid hitting my neighbors shade structure that was less than a foot from the side of the RV that I didn't notice any in the dark. I will know to move the vehicle when we are packing up and take care of them for next year though.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby gaminwench » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:53 pm

YAY! Our entire Esplanade block GREEN!!! Our neighborhood rocked it!!!
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby Cheyenne » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:42 pm

Yeye...

We were 3and espl. and it got green too.... cool - I know a bunch of people stayed behind all of monday and mooped the shit out of that area and into the playa too..

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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby gaminwench » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:56 pm

High-fiving Cheyenne... rockin', MOOPless block!!
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby d6 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:06 pm

Cryptofishist:

what is this "compassion" thing of which you speak?
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:18 am

junglesmacks wrote:It's gonna take a fuckload more than just an eight.



not an eight ball, they can do that in one rail...a BIG eight...


i of course, am talking about billiards...really...i swear.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby H.G.Crosby » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:21 am

there are sixteen ounces in a pound....

therefore a big eight weighs 8 x 28 grams = 224 grams

that SHOULD be enough.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby Fiver » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:34 am

H.G.Crosby wrote:there are sixteen ounces in a pound....

therefore a big eight weighs 8 x 28 grams = 224 grams

that SHOULD be enough.



Do we need 8 balls?


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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby junglesmacks » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:37 am

H.G.Crosby wrote:therefore a big eight weighs 8 x 28 grams = 224 grams




New term for me. I've always known 224 grams to just be a straight 1/2 lb.. lol.

My multiplication tables.. slightly fuzzy. Yet I know my 112 / 224 / 336 / 448 increments all day long. I dunno.. :lol:
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby H.G.Crosby » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:54 pm

Fiver wrote:
H.G.Crosby wrote:there are sixteen ounces in a pound....

therefore a big eight weighs 8 x 28 grams = 224 grams

that SHOULD be enough.



Do we need 8 balls?


Careful, undercover LEO's may still be on the Playa....



Ya THINK?



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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby trilobyte » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:05 pm

And here we go with day 5...

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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby FuckingEh » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:12 pm

Big props to the Moop crews. *cheers*
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby delle » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:47 pm

Yikes.

Our corner was green (in fact the whole darned block was --- GO, BLOCK!!!). Strait across from us was an entirely yellow block tho, with scattered red.

Wondering what the odd swipe of yellow was between 9:45 & Hajj was tho.....
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby jkisha » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:16 pm

I wonder why they chose the route they took? They started at the back (and quit one street shy of our camp :( ) and then jumped to the inner circle and started working their way back. Is there some logical reason for doing that?
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby trilobyte » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:50 pm

If I remember correctly, they said they do some of the outer streets first as a 'warm up' because they're usually less MOOPy than the rest of the city. Then once they've got the process down, they dive in at the deep end and work their way back.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby Fiver » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:44 pm

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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby bubbavic » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:57 pm

It saddens me to see so much red. GO DPW! On the flip, my block was all green! (was almost sure we'd be yellow but I know other people stuck around to MOOP). =)
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:28 pm

d6 wrote:Cryptofishist:

what is this "compassion" thing of which you speak?

Oh, so sorry. You just failed the Turing Test.
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Re: 2011 MOOP Map Live

Postby Irreverent Moniker » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:14 am

Sweet, our little patch of playa is green!
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