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Re: not that theres anything Wrong with it...

Postby Sanddog42 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:58 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:But come to Our club, and all of a sudden we have to cater to every whim and taste equally?

I'm not questioning your aesthetic. I'm questioning your need to assert how heterosexual you are when no one else brought it up. Just because a gay guy thanked you for your security work you had to point out that you're straight.

Okay fine. We get it. You don't like men. You don't want men in your club. Fair enough. Tell me the name of your camp, and I'll be sure to avoid it.

And I'm not asking you to cater to anything. But radical inclusion is one of the basic principles of Burning Man. Burning Man is "our" club - your's, mine and all the other burners. When you bought a ticket to our club I assume you accepted that. I stand corrected.

btw, I'm not sure I can echo nate's thanks, because given your attitude, I'm not sure you would provide security for me (or nate) if I needed it. In fact, I'm not sure I'd feel safe around you in any circumstance.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:11 pm

i care not whether nates, or anyones penis is gay or straight, that is your business, not mine.

I have an AESTHETIC rule on my side because i adhere to the old hollywood maxim of giving them a pretty girl, and the rest does itself.

Get a Good-looking woman to serve drinks, and your bar is assured of success.

sexist? no. Misogynistic?..no, i was a lesbian in a past life. Anti-Queer or Uber Het? no and no, you obviously dont know me.

The Whore of Babylon and the Babalon Working are indeed gender specific in my mind and i am merely paying attention to detail.

I am sorry if my non-San Francisco flippancy about Gay Issues seems abrasive and crude, but its because im from the east coast and i give EVERYONE shit (in an east coast, loving, ethnic way) and dont care one way or another who or what you stick your dick in.

it's you who seem to have a problem with MY gender bias, not the other way around.


and the fact of the matter is, i like surrounding myself with beautiful young, half-clad, partially to fully frenzied women dancing to a throbbing beat while i do my job,.

so sue me.
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Postby Sanddog42 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:40 pm

So... no ugly women on your side of the stage either?
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:15 pm

EVERY woman is BEAUTIFUL in her own way.






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Postby Sanddog42 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:45 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:EVERY woman is BEAUTIFUL in her own way.

Even a woman trapped in a man's body?
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:54 pm

sorry buckeroo, but a poor trapped soul in a mans body is still only attractive and beautiful to those that think it is, it has nothing to do with anything else.

i do not find a mans body attractive to me sexually, regardless of a so called female interior.

nor will i ever.

The funny thing about those people who believe that theres a little bit of gay in everyone is dead wrong and insulting to anyone who doesnt adhere to that particular gay mind set.

they often accuse anyone who refutes their intrusions as Homophobic, when in actuality, the problem is YOU, not your goddamn rainbow, so get over yourself, mary.
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Postby hollywallydoodle » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:44 pm

simon says.

and he's usually right.
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Postby Sanddog42 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:51 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:i do not find a mans body attractive to me sexually...


Oh! See, I misunderstood you before. You meant every woman's body is sexually attractive in it's own way. Right?

Well, no one is suggesting you find men sexually attractive. (Which is why it was odd that you would bring it up in the first place.)

Simon of the Playa wrote:The funny thing about those people who believe that theres a little bit of gay in everyone is dead wrong and insulting to anyone who doesnt adhere to that particular gay mind set.


Another great curve ball, but I know what you mean.

But that mindset isn't exclusively "gay." That would be like saying I have a little bit of straight in me. Some people believe that, but I don't.

I don't find it insulting that anyone would believe that though. After all, I'm not heterophobic.

What does "refute their intrusion" mean? Are talking about a gay presence on your side of the stage? No... that just doesn't fit... You never said you don't want gay men on your side of the your stage in your club where you have authority, you said you don't want any men up there for aesthetic reasons. Hey, it's your art project and I support you right to use women as you see fit.

"refute their intrusion"... hmm... sound like you've had a bad personal experience. I won't pry, but you have my sympathy. Just remember: It wasn't your fault.

btw, I couldn't find Whore of Babylon or Babalon Working in the list of camps, so I'm not sure what area to avoid. What's the address?
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm

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again, i dont have time to slice and dice your swiss cheese logic right now, but trust me, i will.


why dont you go listen to Hall & Oates or something while you're waiting.
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Postby Sanddog42 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:17 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:why dont you go listen to Hall & Oates or something while you're waiting.


Not a fan.

I'm sensing some anger. That's normal and it's okay.

Feel your feelings.

It wasn't your fault.
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Postby notonmysofa » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:38 pm

I'll keep it peaceful just keep it off my sofa.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:31 pm

Sanddog42 wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:why dont you go listen to Hall & Oates or something while you're waiting.


Not a fan.

I'm sensing some anger. That's normal and it's okay.

Feel your feelings.

It wasn't your fault.


no this isnt the anger forum, it's the violence on the playa forum, so lets just cut the shit dr. ruth and i'll meet you in thunderdome and whoop your ass, whether its gay or not.

if you think i want to play asshole verbal ping pong with you you are sadly mistaken

go beat off to some other drum circle, and take your pseudo-intellectualism somewhere where it will be respected because of a dumb audience, as opposed to somewhere that knows better.

and if you want to go settle this Mano a Mano then you know where to find me...

ask anyone where the root society domes and big video screen is and they'll look at you and say, "what, are you fucking blind?"

there is where you'll find me.

it's my real name too, i dont need to hide behind a moniker or a mask.


balls in your mou....i mean court, so we will leave it at that and i bid my adieu to yeu, good luck out there mr. frontier psychiatrist, you really dont wanna parry with me on that shit either, i will make certain that the results of any such attempt to "fuck with MY mind" will be met with a response that will SERE your brain like a bad branding iron.

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Postby Sanddog42 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:35 pm

Nah. Violence on the playa? I'm against it.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:39 pm

i expected as much.


put up or shut up.

walk the walk, newb, before you talk the talk.


i earn my respect, what the fuck do you do, purchase it online?


see you in the dust, where all men and women are equals if they choose to be.
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Postby Sanddog42 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:56 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:see you in the dust, where all men and women are equals if they choose to be.


Except on your stage. Which is at the Root Society, right?

btw, Doesn't "walk the walk before you talk the talk" mean "don't be a hypocrite?" I'm not threatening violence toward anyone, so why should I participate in it?

But you know what, I do owe you an apology for the mind games. I think you're probably more homophobic than you realize, but I sure haven't been helping. In fact, I've just been goading you, which was wrong of me. And for that I am sorry.

May you be happy. May you be healthy. May you be safe from harm. And my you be free of all suffering.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:00 am

may you not piss me off in person.


take the rest of your blessings and shove them up your ass.
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Postby bluesbob » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:18 am

Gay guys are fun. They get all the chicks. I'm hanging out with them on the playa.
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Postby Fire_Moose » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:42 am

Oh man this popcorn is AWESOME!
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Postby Sail Man » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:01 am

Fire_Moose wrote:Oh man this popcorn is AWESOME!


Yes it is :lol:

Of course the lazy boy and a cooler of Corona's doesn't hurt either :lol:
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Postby Packoderm » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:02 am

Violence on the Playa

(sung to the tune of Fire on the Mountain by Marshall Tucker Band)

And there's violence on the playa
Theft is everywhere
But other than busting burners for dope
The cops they just don't care

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Postby Bounce530 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:17 am

Didn't I mention earlier this week that I miss this Simon?
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:20 pm

i'm pms'ing and retaining water and i look fat and everything sucks and i wanna die...

Can i have some chocolate please?


I hate you...I love you....lets fuck.
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Postby ygmir » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:41 pm

Simon's new avatar makes me want to give him my wallet.......

damn you, street fightin man.........
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Postby junglesmacks » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:13 pm

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Postby VeganChoirGirl » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:37 pm

Fire_Moose wrote:Oh man this popcorn is AWESOME!


WOW! Seriously.
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Re: not that theres anything Wrong with it...

Postby Dr Jet Sinister » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:27 pm

Sanddog42 wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:But come to Our club, and all of a sudden we have to cater to every whim and taste equally?

I'm not questioning your aesthetic. I'm questioning your need to assert how heterosexual you are when no one else brought it up. Just because a gay guy thanked you for your security work you had to point out that you're straight.

Okay fine. We get it. You don't like men. You don't want men in your club. Fair enough. Tell me the name of your camp, and I'll be sure to avoid it.

And I'm not asking you to cater to anything. But radical inclusion is one of the basic principles of Burning Man. Burning Man is "our" club - your's, mine and all the other burners. When you bought a ticket to our club I assume you accepted that. I stand corrected.

btw, I'm not sure I can echo nate's thanks, because given your attitude, I'm not sure you would provide security for me (or nate) if I needed it. In fact, I'm not sure I'd feel safe around you in any circumstance.


Did it ever occur to you that women are less likely to be aggressive assholes and perhaps that's why he would prefer them near him? Sounds like a pretty smart move from a security standpoint. I don't recall hearing many stories about a drunk girl getting sexually aggressive and needing to be ejected. Not that it's not possible....

Yet assuming you know someone's deepest feelings based on a message board posting seems to put you in an exclusive position to pass judgement. How does that work exactly?

I think people are far too complex to attempt put them in little boxes so quickly.
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Re: not that theres anything Wrong with it...

Postby Sanddog42 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:35 pm

Dr Jet Sinister wrote:Did it ever occur to you that women are less likely to be aggressive assholes and perhaps that's why he would prefer them near him? Sounds like a pretty smart move from a security standpoint.


No, that didn't ever occur to me. Thanks for a fresh perspective.


Dr Jet Sinister wrote:Yet assuming you know someone's deepest feelings based on a message board posting seems to put you in an exclusive position to pass judgement. How does that work exactly?


It doesn't. I don't.

Dr Jet Sinister wrote:I think people are far too complex to attempt put them in little boxes so quickly.


I couldn't agree more.
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Postby Elorrum » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:40 pm

oh, I love tag team! Sanddog is in pretty good condition, not reaching towards the ropes. please pass the popcorn!
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Re: not that theres anything Wrong with it...

Postby Dr Jet Sinister » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:51 pm

Sanddog42 wrote:
Dr Jet Sinister wrote:Did it ever occur to you that women are less likely to be aggressive assholes and perhaps that's why he would prefer them near him? Sounds like a pretty smart move from a security standpoint.


No, that didn't ever occur to me. Thanks for a fresh perspective.

Cool!

Sanddog42 wrote:
Dr Jet Sinister wrote:Yet assuming you know someone's deepest feelings based on a message board posting seems to put you in an exclusive position to pass judgement. How does that work exactly?


It doesn't. I don't.

You're right. It doesn't, but that's what seems to have happened here with your first post. Which is what prompted me to reply.

Sanddog42 wrote:
Dr Jet Sinister wrote:I think people are far too complex to attempt put them in little boxes so quickly.


I couldn't agree more.

Glad we could agree!
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Re: not that theres anything Wrong with it...

Postby Sanddog42 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:05 pm

Dr Jet Sinister wrote:but that's what seems to have happened here with your first post. Which is what prompted me to reply.


You mean when I said "was that really necessary?"

I can see how you got that impression. Have you read through the rest of the thread?

I said a lot of stuff that was unnecessary, much of which was unkind, and some of which was probably even untrue.

But I repent. I hope we can bury the hatchet and not bring any resentments to the burn. For our own sakes and for the sake of our camp-mates and the the rest of the community.

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