Well! congrats! you're getting better at staying on topic. Now ( for the 5th or 6th time ) It would be illegal to "leave you're guns at the door" & unless a real crime is committed, it would also be illegal to leave it with the police.
jkisha wrote:On it's face, I can agree with that statement. I guess the part I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around is finding myself in such a situation that I would need a gun for protection.
I usually don't go to places where I would be in fear for my life; and I am pretty aware when out. Not that I avoid going places I have to go, it's just places I have to go are pretty unlikely to put me at risk.
There are certain activities like going to an ATM at night, that I will avoid if possible, and I take other sensible precautions. I doubt that I would do anything differently if I carried a gun. I just don't see the need for it.
gunsmith wrote:teardropper, the safest place for a loaded gun is a good holster.
The most common time for a gun accident is un holstering. Anyone who has been at the gate during a busy time and anyone who has real training would tell you the same thing.
It isn't just dangerous, it is EXTREMELY dangerous.
The gate has many distractions, there are people all over, a deadly accident happens in the fraction of a second, there are no discharge barrels at the gate and anyone who thinks they can safely accept a gun at the gate obviously isn't qualified to do so.
Policy is being written by someone that has zero understanding of the law and zero understanding of common safety practices in place at ranges/police stations/armed transport centers.
So Gunsmith, you say confiscation is illegal, and probably correctly. You volunteering to rectify the situation? Newsflash: eplaya is the wrong venue. If you want the BMORG's attention, you have to contact headquarters directly. If you want a lively discussion leading almost nowhere, you're in the right place.
Burning Man can deny entry to those carrying firearms, just as some churches and schools choose to do. How this is done is always a matter of legal technicalities and obviously, some debate.
caveatlector wrote:This is such a bizarre conversation to me.
First off, why the hell would someone bring a gun to Burning Man? I'm pretty sure the event that Burning Man was that allowed for displays of firepower went away nearly 2 decades ago.
Secondly, your hosts have asked that you leave your guns at home. Same as bringing your pets. Or air-burst explosives. Don't be a dick and bring those things.
so don't feel like you're letting your guard down by leaving your killing tools at home.
Why would you do such a dick move as to bring a gun to the Burn?
Is this some sort of Yankee cultural thing that I'm just never going to get because I live in a saner, safer country?
CapSmashy wrote: A firearm is no more a killing tool than a sledgehammer or a car is.
teardropper wrote:You know, I have appreciated your posts here. And understand why you, and other clear thinking individuals feel the need to be armed. But to use this tired analogy is not so good for your argument.
If a gun is not for shooting, killing, if you will, and sledgehammer can kill, too, then why don't you carry a sledgehammer? Or run into them with your killing car? Because they're not as good at killing. You carry a gun because, when you feel the need, it is far more efficient at killing.
CapSmashy wrote:What makes a firearm, a car, a sledgehammer, a carbon arc torch, etc dangerous is the person that picks it up and the manner in which they use it.
CapSmashy wrote:Mmmmmmmmmm... cheese.....
I have a secret addiction to a fine havarti with dill added.
CapSmashy wrote:The purpose of a sledge hammer is for Cool Hand Luke to break rocks. The purpose of a car is for Cool Hand Luke to escape. The purpose of a carbon arc torch is to cut off Cool Hand Luke's manacles. The purpose of a gun is to kill Cool Hand Luke.
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