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Postby Badger » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:12 am

Mmmmm... Such good company, obviously the vanguard of creativity and insight. Your in such good company.


Oh, and you're not?

I'm not sure which camp would be more hellish but stacking the list of more conservative 'artists' and playing their 'hits' in your camp doesn't look any more promising.


Paul Anka, “(You’re) Having My Baby”


Johnny Burnette, “God, Country and My Baby”


Charlie Daniels Band, “In America”


Neil Diamond, “America”


Doobie Brothers, “Jesus Is Just Alright”


Yvonne Elliman and Helen Reddy, “I Don’t Know How To Love Him”


Connie Francis, “God Bless America”


Bobby Fuller Four, “I Fought the Law”


Lee Greenwood, “God Bless the U.S.A.”


Edwin Hawkins Singers, “Oh Happy Day”


Johnny Horton, “Battle of New Orleans”


Whitney Houston, “The Star Spangled Banner”


Ferlin Husky, “Wings of a Dove”


Mormon Tabernacle Choir and Andy Williams, “Battle Hymn of the Republic”


Aaron Tippin, “Where the Stars and Stripes and the Eagle Fly”

BTW, let us know when you pull your myopic, stereotyping head out of your ass - maybe we can pound down a few Coors or something....
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Postby stuart » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:39 am

John KKKery is a Socialist. No denying it. Therefore A NAZI, and well that makes you NAZI YOUTH. Congrats.


you fucking idiot

Kucinich is a socialist. Kerry is miles to the right of him. John Kerry is a centrist Democrat and therefor very mainstream in his policy stance WRT the rest of the country as surveyed countless times on individual issues like health care, abortion, labor protections, etc.. A Nazi? Fuckhead. Yes, they called themselves the national socialist party but look at your history pal. Rightist movements always use the rhetoric of the everyman in order to disguise their elitist leanings. Hitler was in bed with and gave massive advantage to big business, both german and american. Hitler was about as much of a socialist as Bush is. Did you know that american bomber pilots were given strict orders to NOT bomb specific factories in germany even though those targets were feeding directly into the german war effort? Wanna know why? Because they were owned and operated by big american firms like GM. Hitler was as capitalist as they get. As was Mussolini.

now, either read some history or go back to posting on freerepublic where your notions go unchallenged.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:45 am

Badger wrote:I'm not sure which camp would be more hellish but stacking the list of more conservative 'artists' and playing their 'hits' in your camp doesn't look any more promising.


Paul Anka, “(You’re) Having My Baby”


Johnny Burnette, “God, Country and My Baby”


(many forbidden elipses here-tCf)


Mormon Tabernacle Choir and Andy Williams, “Battle Hymn of the Republic”


Aaron Tippin, “Where the Stars and Stripes and the Eagle Fly”

BTW, let us know when you pull your myopic, stereotyping head out of your ass - maybe we can pound down a few Coors or something....
Dang it Badger! You forgot that Eagle Soaring song by Ashcroft and Sargent Barry Sadler's "Ballad of the Green Berets." Both of those are incredibly scary once the laughter wears off.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:47 am

stuart wrote: Yes, they called themselves the national socialist party but look at your history pal. Rightist movements always use the rhetoric of the everyman in order to disguise their elitist leanings.
Thank you Stuart, I was just getting here.
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Postby Rian Jackson » Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:50 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
Badger wrote:I'm not sure which camp would be more hellish but stacking the list of more conservative 'artists' and playing their 'hits' in your camp doesn't look any more promising.


Paul Anka, “(You’re) Having My Baby”


Johnny Burnette, “God, Country and My Baby”


(many forbidden elipses here-tCf)


Mormon Tabernacle Choir and Andy Williams, “Battle Hymn of the Republic”


Aaron Tippin, “Where the Stars and Stripes and the Eagle Fly”

BTW, let us know when you pull your myopic, stereotyping head out of your ass - maybe we can pound down a few Coors or something....
Dang it Badger! You forgot that Eagle Soaring song by Ashcroft and Sargent Barry Sadler's "Ballad of the Green Berets." Both of those are incredibly scary once the laughter wears off.

i have nightmares about asscrack singing. i saw one little clip and am forever traumatised....<shudder>
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Postby Simply Joel » Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:04 pm

i avert my eyes, and cover my ears at the appropriate moment....
Democrats... snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, daily!


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Postby willx001 » Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:10 pm

My oh my, the true colors they are a flying!

Ran it up the flag pole and how they all saluted!

You've proved my point righteously. I don't want to have these discussions. I want to enjoy a vacation where I get to be creative, make some cool stuff and have some fun. But unless you fit in the politically correct burning man demographic, your pretty much excluded from participating.

Join the Revolution.

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Re: empty head of socialism

Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:22 pm

willx001 wrote:My oh my, the true colors they are a flying!

Ran it up the flag pole and how they all saluted!

You've proved my point righteously. I don't want to have these discussions. I want to enjoy a vacation where I get to be creative, make some cool stuff and have some fun. But unless you fit in the politically correct burning man demographic, your pretty much excluded from participating.

Join the Revolution.

Round and round in the empty head of socialism.
Proving that he's not yet ready to play with the big kids and that instead of coming to terms with his laziness and stupidity and working to overcome them he's going to snivel to his "buddies" and rightiously wallow in his ignorance.

We are all impressed. This will convert many.
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cliche

Postby willx001 » Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:42 pm

I imagine a group of Liza male impersonators descending to give the Liza Minnelli award to the most cliche Anti-Gorge W Bush Screed / "Art" piece. Although at this point any Anit-Gorge W Bush cretique by the left is pretty much a tired cliche.
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Postby stuart » Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:50 pm

You've proved my point righteously. I don't want to have these discussions. I want to enjoy a vacation where I get to be creative, make some cool stuff and have some fun. But unless you fit in the politically correct burning man demographic, your pretty much excluded from participating.


thanks for responding to my comments. What was your point again?
try having a discussion instead of throwing out baseless hyperbole. I see that several folks have responded quite directly to your comments. Why don't you try the same?

As for me,


I want to enjoy a vacation where I get to be creative, make some cool stuff and have some fun.


this pretty much fits the bill. I don't recall having ever had a political discussion on the playa, let alone excluding someone from their experience as a result of their political leanings. It's a big city. Grow up and play like a big boy in it
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Postby willx001 » Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:28 pm

Every man, wherever he goes, is encompassed by a cloud of comforting convictions, which move with him like flies on a summer day.
-Bertrand Russell

All I'm asking is to leave you ideology at the door. Enough of the people with there black cloud of convictions. it taints the entire event with bitterness, bigotry and hatred.

People got problems that they can't work out
So there sense cracks
I read the paper and I watch the news it don't give me the blues
It just gives me the blacks
Starvation on the radio
They don't play the facts
They play the crackerjacks

Subliminal Fascism gettin' under your skin so you better wake up US

Well the bad gets worse
Too fucked up
And the hate grows more each day
So when the infected try to effect you
Don't listen to them when they say
Follow the rules and forget the bomb
Communistical patriotic
The plan is subtle but it's in the open
Kingpins Nazi scheme getting under your skin

So you better wake up US

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Subliminal Fascism, fascism, fascism, fascist !!

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Postby Sensei » Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:39 pm

Troll.
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Postby Rian Jackson » Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:47 pm

For sure. Possibly also a sock? Look at the number of posts.

Slay him, Sensei!
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Postby DVD Burner » Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:14 pm

stuart wrote:
John KKKery is a Socialist. No denying it. Therefore A NAZI, and well that makes you NAZI YOUTH. Congrats.


you fucking idiot!


It was all in willx001's first 2 sentences:

willx001 wrote:Texas is to Texans as Kalifornia is to Kalifornians. Girly Man.

This may come as a shock to you. You can be an artist without being a liberal. Imagine that.


Pretty much cahos from there. Still fun to watch from here. :lol:
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Postby BAS » Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:18 pm

According to "The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich", the Nazi Party pre-dated Hitler. Hitler, who was working for the military at the time, was infiltrating various organizations to see if they posed a threat to the government. The National Socialists just happened to be happy to have anyone apparently taking them serioursly, and invited Hitler to attend a second meeting, and Hitler realized that, since he had his own political ambitions, he could save himself considerable effort by taking over an existing group. He really didn't care what the group's name was, or even its original professed values were (originally, the National Socialists really were a variety of socialist). After Hitler took over the party, he simply changed things to fit his goals and ideals.

Anyway, a friend of mine e-mail me the following link to a site which proposes a new "political compass". It is kind of interesting:



http://www.politicalcompass.org/
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Postby BAS » Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:25 pm

Oh, and Badger, you forgot Brittney Spears! Who can forget her wonderfully "insiteful" statements in Farenheit 9/11?! :lol:
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Postby BAS » Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:11 am

...and just for the record, on the Political Compass, my scores were:

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

...which I suppose explains my voting choice in the Presidential Primaries....
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Postby Rian Jackson » Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:30 am

We're hanging out with the Dalai Lama, you and I. Good company, at least....
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Postby Badger » Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:37 am

You've proved my point righteously. I don't want to have these discussions. I want to enjoy a vacation where I get to be creative, make some cool stuff and have some fun. But unless you fit in the politically correct burning man demographic, your pretty much excluded from participating.


I'm assuming you'll be staying at Camp ad nauseum?
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Postby TheJudge » Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:33 pm

Speaking of ad nauseum, here is a dead horse to beat on some more:

If you dont like it, create your own event. You're free to find a chunk of empty space and be as radically self-empowered as the government will allow. Of course, all that will change when your cool event spreads by word of mouth all over the world. The more attention it gets, the more the feds want to prevent people from having too much fun.

Big brother is afraid of large numbers of creative, social, peaceful non-capitalists.
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Postby BAS » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:56 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:We're hanging out with the Dalai Lama, you and I. Good company, at least....


:idea: You know, when I worked at the hospital, I did get along really well with the Tibetans... (They are one of the things I miss about not working there any more.)
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