WHY THE HELL WAS CNN ALLOWED ON THE PLAYA THIS YEAR?

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WHY THE HELL WAS CNN ALLOWED ON THE PLAYA THIS YEAR?

Postby gerlachedNloaded » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:38 am

Is the Bmorg selling out?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living ... g.man.ktvn

i don't want tourists or the flippin media. goddamnit! This is OUR event!
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Postby C.f.M. » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:49 am

I'd say the question is more when, exactly, did they sell out...yay Alchemy, and all the other burns keepin' it real.
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Postby junglesmacks » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:00 am

Oh. My. God.


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Postby AntiM » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:02 am

There's always been media at Burning Man, and quite a lot of it too. A little late for the outrage party bus. That art car sailed decades ago. My first year, 2001, one of my sources was the article in the Triple A Via magazine.
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Postby gerlachedNloaded » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:05 am

fuck that. i say next time we see cameras and asstards with mics and flowered shirts, we do everything we can to make ANY video they shoot unairable. that goes for the "tourists" at center camp too. day pass my ballsack.. :evil:
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Postby C.f.M. » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:35 am

gerlachedNloaded wrote:fuck that. i say next time we see cameras and asstards with mics and flowered shirts, we do everything we can to make ANY video they shoot unairable. that goes for the "tourists" at center camp too. day pass my ballsack.. :evil:


Ha ha ha, I did that! We (Playawaste Raiders) got rounded up for an on-camera interview.

Him: "So, what is Burning Man?"

Me: "Seriously? What a stupid question. Ask us something interesting."

Him: "Tell me about the 10 principles."

Me: "Really? That's all you could come up with? Go interview the survival guide and leave us alone."

And so on.
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Postby actiongrl » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:43 am

CNN's first visit to the playa was, I believe, in 1996, and they've been back a few times.
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Postby motskyroonmatick » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:53 am

Media is unavoidable and additionally an essential part of "spreading the philosophy." If CNN coverage causes one person who feels out of place in life to feel a little more comfortable in the world then I think it is worth it.

Is this really one of those if I see you on your cell phone at burning man I'm going to kick your ass things?

What if CNN coverage finally motivates one kick ass person to create and bring an amazing work of art to burning man? Or perhaps a person to become a burner and they add to the community?
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Postby C.f.M. » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:01 am

Heck, the Village Voice did a 7-page spread on the ICP Juggalo Fest, so CNN at Burning Man ain't no thang.

I'm just waiting for Fred Phelps to come protest!
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Postby Melvynman » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:03 am

They brought a ticket. They register their camera. Did I miss something?
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Postby gerlachedNloaded » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:14 am

ooh i've got some GREAT ideas if Freddy decides to make the journey...
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Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:44 am

Imagine the kinds of stories the media would run if they weren't allowed into the event.
Every event-hater in Washoe County (and a good many elsewhere) would be speculating in the grandest manner and distorting things into all sorts of twisted shapes.
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Postby LostinReno » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:13 am

Actually it wasn't CNN per se. It was a local news guy/story from Channel 2 in Reno. I saw this run locally on Monday night. It actually took precedence over the rib cookoff which I thought was cool! If you notice they give KTVN credit. Must've been a slow news day for CNN.
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Postby Kinetik V » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:29 am

I remember this article in Wired magazine a long ways back that changed many people's worlds by introducing them to Burning Man for the very first time....

In short...I'm glad the media attends the event and documents some of what takes place there. Like it or not it's now a part of American history....when our great grandkids are in school doing reports at least they will have articles and video clips they can call on to understand what the event was like way back when.

Oh and CNN quite frequently uses local content....it's part of their affiliation agreements...in short it wasn't a slow news day, just a routine one.
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Postby The Bass » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:42 am

The key issue here, I think, is consent.

Last I checked, Media Mecca required all cameras to agree to get consent from their subjects before filming.

So if you want to be filmed or do an interview, go ahead - but if not, make it very well known.

Disorient does not allow news crews to film inside our camp.

This sometimes requires quite a bit of haggling when a crew shows up with lights-a-blazin'.

But if you stand your ground and keep explaining, "we do not consent," after a while they get tired and go away.
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Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:50 am

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Postby Lowz » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:57 pm

Ignore them, they probably still think that this leaf is the canadian flag ..
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Postby swampdog » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:07 pm

I actually liked the CNN piece from the OP. Thanks, CNN!
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Postby silkkat813 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:28 pm

At least CNN need to get permission to film. The tourists can come, make videos, and post them on Youtube.
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Postby goathead » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:53 am

theCryptofishist wrote:Imagine the kinds of stories the media would run if they weren't allowed into the event.
Every event-hater in Washoe County (and a good many elsewhere) would be speculating in the grandest manner and distorting things into all sorts of twisted shapes.


Oh they do.
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The story KTVN did looked ok to me, local media has been out there from the beginning.
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Postby joya » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:34 pm

swampdog wrote:I actually liked the CNN piece from the OP. Thanks, CNN!


Ditto. I wasn't sure what to expect coming from CNN... but I think they did a fair job in their reporting -- and it is this kind of thing that makes it a lot easier to explain Burning Man to those in the default world that either have never heard of it or else have a warped stereotype of what the event is (bunch of free-loving hippies on drugs in the desert -- heh)

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Postby Tin Halo » Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:25 pm

Kinetic V wrote:I remember this article in Wired magazine a long ways back that changed many people's worlds by introducing them to Burning Man for the very first time....


I remember that one, too. For some reason, I have one picture from that article engraved into my mind, and did for years, before I actually got there.
My first burn was a gift from some friends... ticket, ride, camp and all. I remember opening the envelope, and just staring at the ticket, recalling the article... and wondering what the hell I was about to get myself into.
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Postby dj_john69 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:56 pm

actiongrl wrote:CNN's first visit to the playa was, I believe, in 1996, and they've been back a few times.


YES...i made it a point to get them trashed that year while they were pushing around their shopping cart aka mobile studio gear transportation. They wanted to see BM through a Burners eyes and that's what they got.

I won't say anything else about it so please dont ask. LOL
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Postby Dr. Pyro » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:21 pm

Josh, you're not going to like to hear this, but I actually put our camp's name with Media Mecca to come by and interview/photograph us. I figure all publicity is good publicity. Maybe the BMOrg has the same thoughts. I know that I, for one, have never met a camera or a microphone that I didn't like.

Just sayin'.
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Postby Tin Halo » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:27 pm



Ahh... yes. That's the only time WIRED covered BM, isn't it?

My favorite part:

"Woke up, had breakfast. Looked out my RV window and saw a guy sitting on a toilet. He was skidding by at about 45 mph in a massive trail of dust. He had his toilet mounted on a wooden sled, and he was being towed by a pickup. His pants were around his ankles, and he was reading a magazine as he skidded along. It was the magazine reading that made this truly a memorable gesture. "
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Postby Bob » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:41 am

700+ search results for "burning man" on the Wired website, versus 94 on the CNN website, fwiw.

Why is *anyone* allowed at Burning Man?
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Postby oneeyeddick » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:07 am

In 96' I remember an article in the Elko newspaper with the headlines
"SATANISTS GATHER FOR A WEEK OF SIN IN THE N.W. DESERT "

I was laughing my ass off, wish I had kept it.
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Postby Dr. Pyro » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:29 am

It seems to me that headline is completely accurate.
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Postby gunsmith » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:16 pm

I saw Satan & Jesus drinking a beer at burningman
I may not be here now but I was there then
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