!@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

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!@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Elliot » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:54 am

My vote would be to abolish Daylight Saving Time. The expense of changing the clocks cannot possibly be cost effective.

Changing something so fundamental as the time (in any given Time Zone around the World) is just as ridiculous as it would be to switch Monday and Tuesday.

Businesses routinely change their operating hours to match seasonal demand anyway. We all understand the concept of “winter hours” and “summer hours”. No need to make two changes.

A few years ago I missed an important business appointment because somebody’s clever computerized gadget tried to compensate for the change – and got it wrong. Yet another clear case of KISS.

To the barricades! Death to the Tyranny of Daylight Saving Time! Chaaaaaaarge!!!!!

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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby lemur » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:59 am

we should ban daylight savings time so we no longer have to hear people complain about losing an hour of sleep.

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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby 5280MeV » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:10 pm

I was working with two guys from India, and they asked me, "Why do you guys change the time?"

I responded, "My understanding is that we save power by spending more working hours when the sun is up, thus saving on lighting and other costs. Do you not do this in India to try to save power?"

They answered, "No. We just go to work an hour earlier."
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Elderberry » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:01 pm

You could always move to Arizona or Hawaii.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Onion » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:17 pm

Daylight savings should be abolished. If you need to work during daylight hours, adjust your start time accordingly.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby maryanimal » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:16 pm

I love Daylight savings time! All that extra sunshine! I used to be a hater of the time changes because I could never get used to it. But now that I have, I welcome it!

Sorry if I put a damper on your thread Elliot! I just love DST and the Spring is just around the corner! *skipping off, giddy as a schoolgirl*
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby trilobyte » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:17 pm

I don't really mind it. My personal schedule isn't really affected too much, and the few clocks I have are able to change themselves for me.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby TinkerMom » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:57 pm

I personally can't stand the time change. Only because my dad has a thing for clocks.
We must have 40 or so clocks thru out the house. Thankfully, we live in AZ. So
I don't have to change them.

You all complain about it. Fix it. Get petitions signed and send it to whomever and
get it voted on.

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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Elliot » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:45 pm

TinkerMom wrote:You all complain about it. Fix it. Get petitions signed and send it to whomever and
get it voted on.

That's why I started the thread.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby gyre » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:12 pm

Since they changed the dst date, all the auto stuff is even wronger.

Extra daylight?
They said that on the news the other day.
I think the days have the same hours regardless of the clock.

The dst model actually makes less daylight available to me.

I really detest it.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Elliot » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:18 pm

gyre wrote:...even wronger.

That's even gooder English than my !@#$%^&*. :wink:

gyre wrote:...detest...

I use "loathe", but "detest" works. :lol:
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Postby TinkerMom » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:25 pm

^^^^^^^^ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Drawingablank » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:34 pm

As for just starting work an hour earlier - if millions of businesses had to change the hours on their signs, business cards, web sites, and wherever else they post their hours everytime the clock shifted that would never happen. Most folks would just be stuck working the same hours.
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Postby Patsh » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:03 pm

Mountain Stranded time works for us... 8)
Just have to remember how late it is when calling back east.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby EspressoDude » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:27 am

get up when I want, go to bed when I want, who cares what the clock says
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Lassen Forge » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:26 am

DST is my alarm clock teling me the burn is right around the corner. ;)

OK, It was started to get kids home from school an hour earlier so they could tend to the business of running a farm. So the put the clocks ahead an hour, they get an extra hour of sunlight to milk cows, fix tractor, whatever... It was easier than having ALL the school districts (usually run by tyrannical school boards (some things never change!) change their class hours. Of course, then we get this huge summer work season (misnamed "summer vacation") so again, kids had more time to help out around the farm. Notice it all ends roughly around the end of the harvest? ;)

Of course, city kids think its an entitlement to go flock off, but a lot of school districts are going to Year Round Schooling because (a) they're not in the country, but in the city or urbs, and (2) not having the necessity to have kids home on the farm helping out, they can get kids used to the idea of slaving away at gtinding endless jobs at an earlier age to be good urbanites.

So riddle me this... WHY does europe ALSO go on DST... but a few weeks off from the states? I mean, unless you're, again, an agrarian, what's the use... and then, if ya gotta do it, why not make it uiform worldwide? Hey, here's an idea...

Abolish it everywhere, and shift schedules instead. But then I'd lose my BRC "alarm clock".
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Elorrum » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:00 am

I like it, although I never tended a farm. It seems to be a leisure benefit for me, at this latitude, and has little to do with work. It used to mean softball games from 6-8 on weekdays. I lived near the equator for a few years with no time changes and really missed having days where the sun set later. barbequing dinner at any time of the year with a flashlight made me miss DST.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby gyre » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:40 am

If it's a good idea, why isn't it a good idea all year?

Move the clock two hours ahead and be done?

Most kids go inside an hour earlier, because their tv shows, dinner, every other event, still starts at the same time, regardless of the sun's confusion.
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Postby gyre » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:55 am

Elliot wrote:
gyre wrote:...even wronger.

That's even gooder English than my !@#$%^&*. :wink:

I stand by the accuratude of my anglais.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Rice » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:07 am

Central Standard Time - NO daylight savings :)

In the summer here it says light till at least 10PM and the sun is up before 5AM. (I have had sunlight as late as midnight) In the winter the sun rises after I am at work and sets before I go home (dark both ways).

It affects me when I need to call someone on either coast. In the summer Florida is 2 hours ahead and California is 1 hr behind, in the winter Florida is 1 hour ahead and California is 2 hours behind.

So, daylight savings time here is kinda pointless... [Is there a way to get MORE sun in the winter?? That would be very cool]
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:14 am

What I like about Standard Time is that when I take BART home from work and the train gets out of the transbay tunnel and hits Oakland West the sunset is wonderful! Dramatic. Stunning. I know that's part of the whole winter/summer thing, too.
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Elliot, if we can find a way to get Rush Limbaugh to rant for three days straight about DST then I think the whole thing might disappear.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:17 am

Where are you, stretch? Sounds like you're up north, too.
(Incidentally, I just finished reading a book set--in part--in St. Peterburg, dealing with vampires. There was some discussion about how the "white nights" and two months of barely any light in winter affected their feeding habits. No one saw that digression coming...)
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Postby mgb327 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:20 am

Like Elorrum, I have spent time at the Equator, and it gets a wierd kind of boring, 12 on, 12 off. No variation. I live by the natural light cycle, as I have 2 dogs as "family". They know best. I have one alarm clock, it is in a drawer. I only take it out when I have an early flight to catch. In my twisted use of words, it's a "whole lot gooder" this way. I pay no attention to clocks.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Rice » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:48 am

theCryptofishist wrote:Where are you, stretch? Sounds like you're up north, too.
(Incidentally, I just finished reading a book set--in part--in St. Peterburg, dealing with vampires. There was some discussion about how the "white nights" and two months of barely any light in winter affected their feeding habits. No one saw that digression coming...)

I am in Saskatchewan Canada, about 5 hours north of Montana (Canada/US border).

Heh, I am not quite that north. In the shortest day of winter we still get about 5 or 6 hours of sunlight. In the longest day of summer we might get 18 hours of sun. If you go north of the 60th parallel you start to get close to that never-ending day/night.

It is pretty cool to go swimming in a northern lake at midnight and still have sunlight :)
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Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:56 am

I'm sure. I remember July in Scotland when I was 14. We didn't swim or anything, but it was different than it is down here in the San Francisco bay area...
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Postby Rice » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:59 am

A few years ago I spent a couple weeks in Trinidad. It was very weird to have the sun rise and set at the exact same time each day. The concept of watching the sun set is completely foreign to me. I never did see the sun set there :( A sunset here takes hours...
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Postby gyre » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:03 pm

I love the late sunsets in Amsterdam.
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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Foxfur » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:51 pm

Whatever. So long as I still get morning wood I'm fine.
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Postby MyDearFriend » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:17 pm

Foxfur wrote:Whatever. So long as I still get morning wood I'm everybody's fine.


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Re: !@#$%^&* Daylight Saving Time

Postby Lassen Forge » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:27 pm

And in Novgorod... Sunset at about 11:15, sunrise about 3-4 hours later. Of course, the winters are as dark as the summers are light, but it all balances out in the end.
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