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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby OregonRed » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:35 pm

I am so delighted that someone noticed!!!
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I like how you say that, then quote Darwin of all people. :lol:



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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Fufa » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:49 pm

What can I say, I have a tshirt from a few years ago, celebrating his 200th birthday. :roll:
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby knowmad » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:06 pm

"Yet in all societies, even those that are most vicious, the tendency to a virtuous attachment is so strong that there is a constant effort towards an increase of population. This constant effort as constantly tends to subject the lower classes of the society to distress and to prevent any great permanent amelioration of their condition".
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Ugly Dougly » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:21 pm

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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby knowmad » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:30 pm

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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby graidawg » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:29 pm

gosh the thread got smart suddenly i am so not posting here
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby OregonRed » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:38 pm

"To speak truly, few adult persons can see nature. Most persons do not see the sun. At least they have a very superficial seeing. The sun illuminates only the eye of man, but shines into the eye and the heart of a child. The lover of nature is he whose inward and outward senses are still truly adjusted to each other; who has retained the spirit of infancy even into the era of manhood" Ralph Waldo Emerson Nature
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby wh..sh » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:16 pm

Now we go from being smart to quoting people who are/were smart? :shock:
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Trishntek » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:47 pm

Well when you consider the majority of humanity in the world have never had the pleasure of utilizing indoor plumbing, combine that with the fact that food is nothing more than shit with benefits, we can conclude that only the minority of humanity considers their shit so precious as to procure a specific and complicated chair to transport it safely and securely.

Losing sight of said fecal matter, they know not what is precisely done with it. This same population also obtains their food from mostly processed and packaged dealerships. Losing sight of their shit and trusting dealers to supply their shit with benefits, they move along through life not knowing, but trusting their piles of shit are kept separate. They are often observed consuming unbeneficial shit while calling it "food". These are considered "Civilized People."

The majority of humanity maintains a keen sense of where their shit is and where their beneficial shit comes from and they tend to store it underground for safe keeping. They are mostly hunters, gatherers, farmers and opportunistic feeders. One can surmise that those who keep their shit in one pile are more likely to recognize shit when they see it.

And so the obvious conclusion can be obtained by the simple observation that civilized people can't tell the difference between shit and a hole in the ground. One could even declare, "They don't know shit!" If what is called "food" is not beneficial, does it still become shit? No wonder we keep digging a deeper hole in response to being in deep shit! And so that is why we see a surge in the influence of those without indoor plumbing. They know their shit!
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby lemur » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:19 pm

wh..sh wrote:Now we go from being smart to quoting people who are/were smart? :shock:


HEY.. showing that you can quote stuff might prove that you are knowledgeable BUT.. it will never prove that you are intelligent.

clearly, a smart person.. knows that anyone can collect knowledge, passively.. you can collect all of einsteins knowledge, all of darwins too.. and it will never make you more intelligent.

theres a difference between knowledge and intelligence.

an illiterate farmer might be able to be more intelligent than the smartest LittD or PHD.. cuz those PHD's might have been able to rely on other peoples intelligence, collecting it from books, passively sitting on hoards of knowledge..while being completely unintelligent.

whereas the illiterate farmer cant collect his knowledge passively through books, he needs to experience the world through doing, through experimentation.. through actual first hand experience.. using his intelligence to solve his problems.. instead of an ability to use the rote memorization of einstein to find a solution.


knowledge: What is known in a particular field or in total; facts and information.

intelligence: Capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings

smart: having or showing quick intelligence or ready mental capability, clever, witty, or readily effective


Clearly, one can memorize Pi to the 1millionth decimal point and have no fuckin clue how to use that information due to their lack of intelligence. Same goes for readin books....

(Rain Man, or Kim Peek has a fuckin amazing memory.. but he sure as hell aint no einstein or rocket scientist.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Peek "In psychological testing, Peek scored below average (87) on general IQ tests." )
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby ygmir » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:56 pm

lemur wrote:
wh..sh wrote:Now we go from being smart to quoting people who are/were smart? :shock:


HEY.. showing that you can quote stuff might prove that you are knowledgeable BUT.. it will never prove that you are intelligent.

clearly, a smart person.. knows that anyone can collect knowledge, passively.. you can collect all of einsteins knowledge, all of darwins too.. and it will never make you more intelligent.

theres a difference between knowledge and intelligence.

an illiterate farmer might be able to be more intelligent than the smartest LittD or PHD.. cuz those PHD's might have been able to rely on other peoples intelligence, collecting it from books, passively sitting on hoards of knowledge..while being completely unintelligent.

whereas the illiterate farmer cant collect his knowledge passively through books, he needs to experience the world through doing, through experimentation.. through actual first hand experience.. using his intelligence to solve his problems.. instead of an ability to use the rote memorization of einstein to find a solution.


knowledge: What is known in a particular field or in total; facts and information.

intelligence: Capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings

smart: having or showing quick intelligence or ready mental capability, clever, witty, or readily effective


Clearly, one can memorize Pi to the 1millionth decimal point and have no fuckin clue how to use that information due to their lack of intelligence. Same goes for readin books....

(Rain Man, or Kim Peek has a fuckin amazing memory.. but he sure as hell aint no einstein or rocket scientist.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Peek "In psychological testing, Peek scored below average (87) on general IQ tests." )


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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Patsh » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:15 pm

ygmir wrote:
*shuffles quietly out the back door and returns to cave*


Hey, we can still peek in the window, can't we?
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby ygmir » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:21 pm

Triken wrote:
ygmir wrote:
*shuffles quietly out the back door and returns to cave*


Hey, we can still peek in the window, can't we?


*looks hopefully at Triken*
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:21 pm

Just so long as you don't say we should print names on tickets, you can post.
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby ygmir » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:22 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Just so long as you don't say we should print names on tickets, you can post.


Fishy=MDMF007?...........mmmmm

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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Patsh » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:33 pm

ygmir wrote:
Triken wrote:
ygmir wrote:
*shuffles quietly out the back door and returns to cave*


Hey, we can still peek in the window, can't we?


*looks hopefully at Triken*


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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Fufa » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:31 am

Well THAT put a downer on things...
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby knowmad » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:54 am

Fufa wrote:Well THAT put a downer on things...

yeah, no fun.

this guy is kinda cool.
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby OregonRed » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:00 am

lemur wrote:
wh..sh wrote:Now we go from being smart to quoting people who are/were smart? :shock:


HEY.. showing that you can quote stuff might prove that you are knowledgeable BUT.. it will never prove that you are intelligent.

clearly, a smart person.. knows that anyone can collect knowledge, passively.. you can collect all of einsteins knowledge, all of darwins too.. and it will never make you more intelligent.

theres a difference between knowledge and intelligence.

an illiterate farmer might be able to be more intelligent than the smartest LittD or PHD.. cuz those PHD's might have been able to rely on other peoples intelligence, collecting it from books, passively sitting on hoards of knowledge..while being completely unintelligent.

whereas the illiterate farmer cant collect his knowledge passively through books, he needs to experience the world through doing, through experimentation.. through actual first hand experience.. using his intelligence to solve his problems.. instead of an ability to use the rote memorization of einstein to find a solution.


knowledge: What is known in a particular field or in total; facts and information.

intelligence: Capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings

smart: having or showing quick intelligence or ready mental capability, clever, witty, or readily effective


Clearly, one can memorize Pi to the 1millionth decimal point and have no fuckin clue how to use that information due to their lack of intelligence. Same goes for readin books....

(Rain Man, or Kim Peek has a fuckin amazing memory.. but he sure as hell aint no einstein or rocket scientist.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Peek "In psychological testing, Peek scored below average (87) on general IQ tests." )


I posted those quotes because they are some of my favorites. I have a special understanding for Darwin's feelings about the plains of Patagonia, because the playa makes me feel the same way. It's barren and huge and beautiful and awe inspiring. I was hoping someone else might see the correlation without me having to point it out.

The Emerson quote struck me because the thing that we, as Burners, have in common is that we have not lost that sense of childlike wonder and amazement with the world. Our wonder drives us to attempt each year to create a Utopian society where we are each accepted for what we have to offer to the society and all gifts are precious.

But hey... If you want to attack me for being well read and enjoying my literature and quotes... Feel free. I know that I am, by your definitions, intelligent, smart, and knowledgeable. I don't need your approval to validate anything I have to say on here, whether I use my words or the words of someone else.
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Ugly Dougly » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:07 am

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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Ugly Dougly » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:08 am

I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance.
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby knowmad » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:11 am

Agreed!
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby Ugly Dougly » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:15 am

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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby wh..sh » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:21 am

OregonRed wrote:
lemur wrote:
wh..sh wrote:Now we go from being smart to quoting people who are/were smart? :shock:


HEY.. showing that you can quote stuff might prove that you are knowledgeable BUT.. it will never prove that you are intelligent.

clearly, a smart person.. knows that anyone can collect knowledge, passively.. you can collect all of einsteins knowledge, all of darwins too.. and it will never make you more intelligent.

theres a difference between knowledge and intelligence.

an illiterate farmer might be able to be more intelligent than the smartest LittD or PHD.. cuz those PHD's might have been able to rely on other peoples intelligence, collecting it from books, passively sitting on hoards of knowledge..while being completely unintelligent.

whereas the illiterate farmer cant collect his knowledge passively through books, he needs to experience the world through doing, through experimentation.. through actual first hand experience.. using his intelligence to solve his problems.. instead of an ability to use the rote memorization of einstein to find a solution.


knowledge: What is known in a particular field or in total; facts and information.

intelligence: Capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings

smart: having or showing quick intelligence or ready mental capability, clever, witty, or readily effective


Clearly, one can memorize Pi to the 1millionth decimal point and have no fuckin clue how to use that information due to their lack of intelligence. Same goes for readin books....

(Rain Man, or Kim Peek has a fuckin amazing memory.. but he sure as hell aint no einstein or rocket scientist.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Peek "In psychological testing, Peek scored below average (87) on general IQ tests." )


I posted those quotes because they are some of my favorites. I have a special understanding for Darwin's feelings about the plains of Patagonia, because the playa makes me feel the same way. It's barren and huge and beautiful and awe inspiring. I was hoping someone else might see the correlation without me having to point it out.

The Emerson quote struck me because the thing that we, as Burners, have in common is that we have not lost that sense of childlike wonder and amazement with the world. Our wonder drives us to attempt each year to create a Utopian society where we are each accepted for what we have to offer to the society and all gifts are precious.

But hey... If you want to attack me for being well read and enjoying my literature and quotes... Feel free. I know that I am, by your definitions, intelligent, smart, and knowledgeable. I don't need your approval to validate anything I have to say on here, whether I use my words or the words of someone else.


Eeeekks! What did I start? :evil:
I was just joking since the thread drifted from math to quotes and everything inbetween. You are ALL smart, intelligent and knowledgable (in your own way) than I will ever be.
Thankfully fishy set the expectations really low... I should just refrain from suggesting names on tickets. I can do that.
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby wh..sh » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:22 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance.
-Socrates


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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby lemur » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:42 am

OregonRed wrote:But hey... If you want to attack me for being well read and enjoying my literature and quotes... Feel free. I know that I am, by your definitions, intelligent, smart, and knowledgeable. I don't need your approval to validate anything I have to say on here, whether I use my words or the words of someone else.


hey! i didnt even mention you.. what makes you think i am attacking you, or any individual, for that matter ?



perhaps itd be smarter if you saved the indignation for people who actually ARE attacking you, rather than the people you FEEL are attacking you.
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby graidawg » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:01 pm

A quote i once atributed to a friend of mine but was in actual fact someone elses but i have forgtotten who actually made the quote, not the person i thought did but the person who actually did, though i have mentioned it here before and indeed it was here that i found it was not my friend but the person who i can no longer remember the name off who actually made the quote in the first place is the reason why after careful consideration i feel that i should not post on this thread, and indeed will not post on this thread.
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby davink » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:37 pm

Mmmmm... Ham!
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby knowmad » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:34 pm

lemur wrote:
OregonRed wrote:But hey... If you want to attack me for being well read and enjoying my literature and quotes... Feel free. I know that I am, by your definitions, intelligent, smart, and knowledgeable. I don't need your approval to validate anything I have to say on here, whether I use my words or the words of someone else.


hey! i didnt even mention you.. what makes you think i am attacking you, or any individual, for that matter ?



perhaps itd be smarter if you saved the indignation for people who actually ARE attacking you,rather than the people you FEEL are attacking you.


No. You were clearly attacking. all of us saw. even Sw,,os felt like she set "something" off. She has the poise and care to have apologized for her part, and made amends.
It has come to my attention (and many of my fellow Eplayans) that while you sometimes have constructive and helpful things to say; your other coarse, passive aggressive jibes are just too hard to ignore. I also find it infuriating how you drag such pettiness from thread to thread and cause not only myself but other users here to cringe when you arrive on a thread.

Furthermore I find your use of syllogistics to be of a very base nature, far from useable either to myself or to the debate.

And for that; I say, *plonk* you.
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Re: You Must Be This Smart...

Postby graidawg » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:08 pm

knowmad wrote:
lemur wrote:
OregonRed wrote:But hey... If you want to attack me for being well read and enjoying my literature and quotes... Feel free. I know that I am, by your definitions, intelligent, smart, and knowledgeable. I don't need your approval to validate anything I have to say on here, whether I use my words or the words of someone else.


hey! i didnt even mention you.. what makes you think i am attacking you, or any individual, for that matter ?



perhaps itd be smarter if you saved the indignation for people who actually ARE attacking you,rather than the people you FEEL are attacking you.


No. You were clearly attacking. all of us saw. even Sw,,os felt like she set "something" off. She has the poise and care to have apologized for her part, and made amends.
It has come to my attention (and many of my fellow Eplayans) that while you sometimes have constructive and helpful things to say; your other coarse, passive aggressive jibes are just too hard to ignore. I also find it infuriating how you drag such pettiness from thread to thread and cause not only myself but other users here to cringe when you arrive on a thread.

I thought it was just me finding this.

Furthermore I find your use of syllogistics to be of a very base nature, far from useable either to myself or to the debate.

And for that; I say, *plonk* you.
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