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Postby MOOP_Nazi » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:04 pm

Lol! Burning Man in Manhattan!!!

Oh shit...

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Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:39 pm

tiredofbeingnice wrote:I think it's called convenience. If you are buying water in a bottle it could be for many reasons but I would suspect the common theme you will find in water purchases is that the customer is thirsty and they dont have any water in their posession. We live in a time period where you can get drinkable water all over the place.

Yes... there is also free water all around, but you have to put in work to get it. Is it really evil to provide clean water to places that it would otherwise not be available?

It used to be freely available citywide at devices called "drinking fountains". I see no point in importing water from Fiji. I carry a water bottle (steel) almost everywhere. Yes, bottled water is convenient. But it's not the best delivery system and it's a possible sign of the further fencing of the commons.
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Postby Sola Gangsta » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:03 pm

MOOP_Nazi wrote:Lol! Burning Man in Manhattan!!!


That could be theme 2012: Burning ManHattan
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Postby MOOP_Nazi » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:10 pm

Sola Gangsta wrote:
MOOP_Nazi wrote:Lol! Burning Man in Manhattan!!!


That could be theme 2012: Burning ManHattan


And they could dress the man in drag and give him a torch and a Tiara!

The Man could be the Queen of the Playa instead of some self-aggrandizing boat!!!

Brilliant!!
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Postby Elderberry » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:02 pm

MOOP_Nazi wrote:
Sola Gangsta wrote:
MOOP_Nazi wrote:Lol! Burning Man in Manhattan!!!


That could be theme 2012: Burning ManHattan


And they could dress the man in drag and give him a torch and a Tiara!

The Man could be the Queen of the Playa instead of some self-aggrandizing boat!!!

Brilliant!!


See, this is where the LIKE button would have come in handy.
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Re: OCCUPYWALLSTREET REINFORCEMENTS!

Postby cowboyangel » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:40 pm

An Occupy Analysis from Michael Hudson:

Financial Polarization and Corruption: Obama’s Politics of Deception
Don’t Let Him Get Away With It...

by Prof. Michael Hudson


Global Research, October 7, 2011



The seeds for President Obama’s demagogic press conference on Thursday were planted last summer when he assigned his right-wing Committee of 13 the role of resolving the obvious and inevitable Congressional budget standoff by forging an anti-labor policy that cuts Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and uses the savings to bail out banks from even more loans that will go bad as a result of the IMF-style austerity program that Democrats and Republicans alike have agreed to back.

The problem facing Mr. Obama is obvious enough: How can he hold the support of moderates and independents (or as Fox News calls them, socialists and anti-capitalists), students and labor, minorities and others who campaigned so heavily for him in 2008? He has double-crossed them – smoothly, with a gentle smile and patronizing patter talk, but with an iron determination to hand federal monetary and tax policy over to his largest campaign contributors: Wall Street and assorted special interests – the Democratic Party’s Rubinomics and Clintonomics core operators, plus smooth Bush Administration holdovers such as Tim Geithner, not to mention quasi-Cheney factotums in the Justice Department.

President Obama’s solution has been to do what any political demagogue does: Come out with loud populist campaign speeches that have no chance of becoming the law of the land, while quietly giving his campaign contributors what they’ve paid him for: giveaways to Wall Street, tax cuts for the wealthy (euphemized as tax “exemptions” and mark-to-model accounting, plus an agreement to count their income as “capital gains” taxed at a much lower rate).

So here’s the deal the Democratic leadership has made with the Republicans. The Republicans will run someone from their present gamut of guaranteed losers, enabling Mr. Obama to run as the “voice of reason,” as if this somehow is Middle America. This will throw the 2012 election his way for a second term if he adopts their program – a set of rules paid for by the leading campaign contributors to both parties.

President Obama’s policies have not been the voice of reason. They are even further to the right than George W. Bush could have achieved. At least a Republican president would have confronted a Democratic Congress blocking the kind of program that Mr. Obama has rammed through. But the Democrats seem stymied when it comes to standing up to a president who ran as a Democrat rather than the Tea Partier he seems to be so close to in his ideology.

So here’s where the Committee of 13 comes into play. Given (1) the agreement that if the Republicans and Democrats do NOT agree on Mr. Obama’s dead-on-arrival “job-creation” ploy, and (2) Republican House Leader Boehner’s statement that his party will reject the populist rhetoric that President Obama is voicing these days, then (3) the Committee will get its chance to wield its ax and cut federal social spending in keeping with its professed ideology.

President Obama signaled this long in advance, at the outset of his administration when he appointed his Deficit Reduction Commission headed by former Republican Sen. Simpson and Rubinomics advisor to the Clinton administration Bowles to recommend how to cut federal social spending while giving even more money away to Wall Street. He confirmed suspicions of a sellout by reappointing bank lobbyist Tim Geithner to the Treasury, and tunnel-visioned Ben Bernanke as head of the Federal Reserve Board.

Yet on Wednesday, October 4, the president tried to represent the OccupyWallStreet movement as support for his efforts. He pretended to endorse a pro-consumer regulator to limit bank fraud, as if he had not dumped Elizabeth Warren on the advice of Mr. Geithner – who seems to be settling into the role of bagman for campaign contributors from Wall Street.

Can President Obama get away with it? Can he jump in front of the parade and represent himself as a friend of labor and consumers while his appointees support Wall Street and his Committee of 13 is waiting in the wings to perform its designated function of guillotining Social Security?

When I visited the OccupyWallStreet site on Wednesday, it was clear that the disgust with the political system went so deep that there is no single set of demands that can fix a system so fundamentally broken and dysfunctional. One can’t paste-up a regime that is impoverishing the economy, accelerating foreclosures, pushing state and city budgets further into deficit, and forcing cuts in social spending.

The situation is much like that from Iceland to Greece: Governments no longer represent the people. They represent predatory financial interests that are impoverishing the economy. This is not democracy. It is financial oligarchy. And oligarchies do not give their victims a voice.

So the great question is, where do we go from here? There’s no solvable path within the way that the economy and the political system is structured these days. Any attempt to come up with a neat “fix-it” plan can only suggest bandages for what looks like a fatal political-economic wound.

The Democrats are as much a part of the septic disease as the Republicans. Other countries face a similar problem. The Social Democratic regime in Iceland is acting as the party of bankers, and its government’s approval rating has fallen to 12 percent. But they refuse to step down. So earlier last week, voters brought steel oil drums to their own Occupation outside the Althing and banged when the Prime Minister started to speak, to drown out her advocacy of the bankers (and foreign vulture bankers at that!).

Likewise in Greece, the demonstrators are showing foreign bank interests that any agreement the European Central Bank makes to bail out French and German bondholders at the cost of increasing taxes on Greek labor (but not Greek property and wealth) cannot be viewed as democratically entered into. Hence, any debts that are claimed, and any real estate or public enterprises given sold off to the creditor powers under distress conditions, can be reversed once voters are given a democratic voice in whether to impose a decade of poverty on the country and force emigration.

That is the spirit of civil disobedience that is growing in this country. It is a quandary – that is, a problem with no solution. All that one can do under such conditions is to describe the disease and its symptoms. The cure will follow logically from the diagnosis. The role of OccupyWallStreet is to diagnose the financial polarization and corruption of the political process that extends right into the Supreme Court, the Presidency, and Mr. Obama’s soon-to-be notorious Committee of 13 once the happy-smoke settles from his present pretensions.
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Re: OCCUPYWALLSTREET REINFORCEMENTS!

Postby Bob » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:24 pm

Don't make me post the Diamond Sutra.
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Re: OCCUPYWALLSTREET REINFORCEMENTS!

Postby Ugly Dougly » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:27 am

Bob wrote:Don't make me post the Diamond Sutra.

I dare you. I double dharma dare you.
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Postby Ugly Dougly » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:29 am

I wonder how many of these protesters actually vote.
They probably register republican so the can vote for Ron Paul. :lol: Bunch of maroons.
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Postby cowboyangel » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:36 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:I wonder how many of these protesters actually vote.
They probably register republican so the can vote for Ron Paul. :lol: Bunch of maroons.


as if voting accomplishes anything...on the federal level anyway.....
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Postby Elderberry » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:42 pm

That's the Naked Cowboy. He's out on the street all the time. I've even seen him on TV.
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Postby BBadger » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:45 am

cowboyangel wrote:
Ugly Dougly wrote:I wonder how many of these protesters actually vote.
They probably register republican so the can vote for Ron Paul. :lol: Bunch of maroons.


as if voting accomplishes anything...on the federal level anyway.....


Yeah, you keep believing that, mm kay. :roll:
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Postby Ugly Dougly » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:07 am

That's what they'd like you to believe.
Do think that any president would invade Iraq for a year before taking action on Al Qaeda? AND buy his re-election through promising tax cuts? AND de-regulate Wall Street?
Who's being played then?
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Postby FIGJAM » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:19 pm

"SOP's cock is sooooooooo big.........


that it could OCCUPYWALLSTREET single handed with a more staightforward agenda!" 8)
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Postby lurker » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:29 pm

Did you hear them? Did you hear them speaking in unison? Referring to themselves as a collective?

And any of you want this?

Freedom does not look like that. Liberty does not look like that.

That is the slavery of the hive.

Individualism and Collectivism will clash--they must. But humanity's chance at collectivism is far back on it's evolutionary tree. Every attempt to return to it will fail--has failed--in ruin and death. Humans are not collective animals. They took a different path. Attempts to collectivise end in the strong accreting to themselves the power they have always had--and the weak being reduced to self criminalization through the indignity of having to resort to black markets for subsistence.

In the end, barbarism waits. Barbarism always waits. As does the long slow climb.

And humans will climb--they must. It is in their nature. To see the thing over the next hill, under the next rock, beyond the next star.

But they can not do this unless they can shine. And the hive doesn't shine. The hive survives. The hive spends it's effort doing nothing except seeing to it that there will always be a hive. Nails are hammered. Squeaky wheels are replaced--not greased. Replaced. The grease is needed elsewhere--and there are always more wheels.

Right now, the people who made the bailouts, who coddled the bankers, who set all this in motion, are counting on OWS and OSF and OLA and O this and O that to provide enough noise that none watch them. That none see what they're doing.

Because Occupy Wall Street is out there, and they've got a lot of wheels that are going to need replacing real soon.


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Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:37 pm

the howls and cries of a wolf about to be devoured by hungry sheep.


music to my ears.


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Postby Sham » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:49 pm

I usually stay off the political threads, but I want to comment on the Occupy phenomenon going on now.

A while back I was wondering what the heck was wrong with all the young people and were they asleep at the wheel while the world was burning. In the 60's, there were war protests, and organized actions for things that people felt were wrong at the time. I was thinking lately that the kids were mesmerized by their x-Boxes and smart phones, and couldn't be bothered by what was happening around them.

I am elated to see what's happening on Wall Street and around the world. My faith in the next generation and humanity has been restored. I know they will be successful on their mission and I will pull what I can from the big banks. I know the burner community in Boston is very active with this movement as they are in other cities.

All is well with the world, and I look forward to it getting better as weeks go on!
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Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:51 pm

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Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:55 pm

boston is under attack.

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Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:33 pm

Everyone was arrested & the police were brutal. #OccupyBoston - #globalrevolution live on http://t.co/0afVlyTA
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Re: OCCUPYWALLSTREET REINFORCEMENTS!

Postby Ugly Dougly » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:39 am

Shambala wrote:I usually stay off the political threads, but I want to comment on the Occupy phenomenon going on now.

A while back I was wondering what the heck was wrong with all the young people and were they asleep at the wheel while the world was burning. In the 60's, there were war protests, and organized actions for things that people felt were wrong at the time. I was thinking lately that the kids were mesmerized by their x-Boxes and smart phones, and couldn't be bothered by what was happening around them.

I am elated to see what's happening on Wall Street and around the world. My faith in the next generation and humanity has been restored. I know they will be successful on their mission and I will pull what I can from the big banks. I know the burner community in Boston is very active with this movement as they are in other cities.

All is well with the world, and I look forward to it getting better as weeks go on!


Yes.

That's why they don't have a single coherent message; it's been bottled up for a long time and there's a LONG-ASS list of grievances.
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Postby Elderberry » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:41 am

I'm right there with ya! And it's not only the kids...look at the crowds!

You can tell by listening to what the Republicans are saying that they are having an effect.

Shambala wrote:I usually stay off the political threads, but I want to comment on the Occupy phenomenon going on now.

A while back I was wondering what the heck was wrong with all the young people and were they asleep at the wheel while the world was burning. In the 60's, there were war protests, and organized actions for things that people felt were wrong at the time. I was thinking lately that the kids were mesmerized by their x-Boxes and smart phones, and couldn't be bothered by what was happening around them.

I am elated to see what's happening on Wall Street and around the world. My faith in the next generation and humanity has been restored. I know they will be successful on their mission and I will pull what I can from the big banks. I know the burner community in Boston is very active with this movement as they are in other cities.

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Postby Ugly Dougly » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:46 am

cowboyangel wrote:They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.


Yeah, I have been wondering about this recently. Foreclosures seemed to have happened suddenly, and all over. It's just so convenient. The rich cats now own the properties, as well as the equity that the peons put into them. Are there any documents relating to this, or do we have to wait a decade before the truth comes out?
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Postby Mojojita » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:36 am

Seems so far to me that this is the functional opposite of the "Tea Party". Got an invitation to a rally that states the central issues are increased taxation for the most wealthy, universal health care, "corporations are people", etc......

I think I shall investigate further
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