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2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby trilobyte » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:21 pm

I'm a bit concerned about the scorekeeping responses to the ticket seeker threads. While I think they're hilarious, I think that to new new/unwashed masses they're coming off a little too mean-spirited. I know all the radical lack of self-reliance is getting a bit overwhelming, but let's try and give folks a fighting chance at putting two and two again before we fire all starboard snark cannons :)

I suspect that any of the new crop of ticket-seeker signups who actually look outside the tickets boards and find this thread will find this thread, and having done a little poking around on the boards now can see that a) ePlaya has a ton of great stuff, and b) holy crap those ticket threads are everywhere. and can see this thread and the notion of scorekeeping as good-natured fun. (NOTE TO NEW FOLKS: this is all in the spirit of cacaphony and good-natured fun).

So please, put all the scorekeeping in this thread, and then link to the post you're referring to.

Scoring chart
Desperation level:
- "Must" go this year + 5pt
- "need" + 5pt (each)
- Use of "desperate" + 10pt

Keywords (each use):
- "miracle" + 2pt
- "pray" + 2pt
- "love" + 2pt
- "dream" + 2pt
- "hoping" + 2pt
- "connect" / "reconnect" + 2pt
- "manifest" + 5pt
- "overwhelmed" + 5pt
- "journey" + 3pt
- "incredible" / "unbelievable" + 2pt
- "opportunity" + 2pt
- "sharing" + 2pt

Sentimental reasons:
- "Want to come home" + 5pt (+5 bonus for exact wording)
- Playa is home + 5pt
- Clear out negative feelings + 5pt
- Good for soul + 5pt
- Open doors + 5pt
- Bring love + 5pt
- Amazing experience + 5pt
- Something "lost" or missing + 5pt
- Playa is the "real world" + 5pt
- Birthday gift + 10pt
- Getting married/divorced + 10pt
- Getting married/divorced again! + 20pt (each time)
- Prove negative feelings wrong + 10pt
- Gone for many years + 2pt per year
- Family reunion + 15pt

Praises for others:
- Amazing people + 10pt
- Welcoming community + 5pt
- Magical people or place + 5pt
- "The playa will provide" + 20pt
- Faith in generosity of others + 10pt

Credentials and reasons (check all that apply):
- Boyfriend/girlfriend has ticket, you don't: + 5pt
- States age + 5pt
- Virgin burner + 5pt
- Artist + 5pt
- Making film + 10pt
- DJ + 5pt
- Military veteran + 5pt
- Mother/father + 10pt
- Medical problems + 5pt
- Poor student + 5pt
- Former BM volunteer + 15pt
- Current BM volunteer + 25pt
- General volunteering + 10pt
- Buying for family member + 5pt

Bad planning and excuses:
- Lack of funds + 5pt
- Didn't know it would sell out + 5pt
- Not a rich person + 5pt
- Traveling from different country + 20pts
- Part of a project, forgot tickets + 10pts
- Just barely got time off + 5pt
- Tickets sold out "quickly" + 10pt
- Tried buying *the day* they sold out + 10pt

Prior contributions:
- Prior attendance (2pt x claimed years attended)
- Part of a project + 10pt
- Once was a DJ at BM + 5pt
- Part of "major camp" + 5pt

Insults and hate:
- Hates non-contributors: + 5pt
- Hates pseudo-burners: + 10pt
- Fashionista: e.g. hates cargo pants: + 5pt
- Hates scalpers + 5pt
- Hates playa virgins + 5pt
- Hates capitalism + 5pt
- Hates "tourists" + 5pt
- Hates RVs + 5pt

Style points:
- First post ever + 15pt
- Purity bonus: multiple posts, but only for begging: + 10pt each new thread
- "Namaste" + 30pt
- "Hugs" + 5pt
- Picture of self + 10pt
- Any keyword in parting words + 5pt per word
- Long story + 5pt per paragraph

Over-the-top:
- "Deserves" to go + 25pt
- Returns to gloat after receiving ticket + 100pt
- Generosity reversal (deigns to take your ticket) + 100pt
- Name-drops self + 50pt
- Ticket is "karma repayment" + 25pt

Repeat customer bonus:
- Number of years asking for free ticket: + 15pt (each year)
- Claimed years having received free ticket: + 30pt (each year)

Ticket multiplier:
- Need 1 ticket 1x
- Need 2 tickets 1.1x
- Need 3 tickets 1.25x
- Need > 3 tickets 1.5x

Price multiplier:
- Greater than face value 0.5x
- Face value + trade 0.75x
- Face value 1x
- Lower tier ticket 1.5x
- Free ticket 3x
- Trade worthless service (e.g. fresh vegetable chef) 5x
- Wants early entry 5x

Sock multiplier/bonus:
- Uses a sock to beg for more tickets + 1x each additional sock
- Uses the same text to beg + 200pt (per use as another sock!)
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby Dr Helix » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:08 pm

trilobyte wrote:I'm a bit concerned about the scorekeeping responses to the ticket seeker threads. While I think they're hilarious, I think that to new new/unwashed masses they're coming off a little too mean-spirited. I know all the radical lack of self-reliance is getting a bit overwhelming, but let's try and give folks a fighting chance at putting two and two again before we fire all starboard snark cannons :)

So please, put all the scorekeeping in this thread, and then link to the post you're referring to.


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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby Elderberry » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:43 pm

I thought it was brilliant.
Dr Helix wrote:
trilobyte wrote:I'm a bit concerned about the scorekeeping responses to the ticket seeker threads. While I think they're hilarious, I think that to new new/unwashed masses they're coming off a little too mean-spirited. I know all the radical lack of self-reliance is getting a bit overwhelming, but let's try and give folks a fighting chance at putting two and two again before we fire all starboard snark cannons :)

So please, put all the scorekeeping in this thread, and then link to the post you're referring to.


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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby trilobyte » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:44 pm

I don't think for a moment it was your intention (or anybody's, hopefully) to hurt anyone's feelings. It's a way to add a little levity and blow off some steam at a situation that's been overwhelming the boards. There have been roughly 1900 new signups since tickets sold out on the 24th (2850 since the beginning of July)... that's completely unheard of. For comparison, in a typical 'busy season' (July/August) the site sees 1000 or so new people. And of course, because everyone has the ticket madness, very very few of them are taking the time to read anything before posting, or showing much in the way of regard for the board or the ePlaya community that was here before they signed up. The boards are pretty heavily disrupted (frogfufffic started flagging posts), if there aren't ways to lower the tension there will just be more hot-tempered threads.

I suspect that any of the new crop of ticket-seeker signups who actually look outside the tickets boards and find this thread will find this thread, and having done a little poking around on the boards now can see that a) ePlaya has a ton of great stuff, and b) holy crap those ticket threads are everywhere. and can see this thread and the notion of scorekeeping as good-natured fun. (NOTE TO NEW FOLKS: this is all in the spirit of cacaphony and good-natured fun).
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:36 pm

I, chagrinned wrote:
sparklefairyprincess wrote:Still looking for a ticket, from 1 nice person.

I bet she's desperate enough to take it from a "douche bag."

And sparkle, you can go to my profile, hit the "foe" button, say "yes" to the pop-up and never see me again.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:39 pm

From the "humble scalper thread"
SonyaSophia wrote:Hello, I teach a healing modality called EFT (Emotional Freedom techniques) to thousands of burners every year during Bm at Red Lightning. This year I moved to London to marry my Brit. So my ticket money just was earned last week only to find out they are sold out! I would love to buy your tickets at your asking price so I can continue to serve the BM community in healing and fulfilling their dreams. The work I do for RedLighting is too important and valuable not to be able to come at the last moment. I am slated to give six 2 hr healing presentations with the biggest and most bright alternative healing camps on the playa. I am also invited to offer a submission to give TEDX talk presentation, recorded from the playa, which will go out to
millions viewers. Here is a link to videos showing my work for the Burner community on the playa.
http://www.god-dess-in-us.us/audiovideo.html

http://www.god-dess-in-us.us/photoalbum.html

I will go on pure faith to the gates with no ticket if I have to, its really that big of a deal to me to be there this year. I have been the last 12 in service to the greater good and have so much to do there this year.

It's a such a mess that I didn't have my funds together to move from California to London. to get married and to fly back to BM in just 8 weeks. It will really support a lot of fellow humanbeings to heal their pain from things like accidents, injuries, illnesses, medical problems, emotional pain, abuse and addictions. Please trust me and I'll trust you. Together healing for this world is possible. Thanks for being willing to go through all this. You could have sold them for alot more on eBay like so many others have done. Good job for posting here instead.
In loving service,
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So, I've highlit in red those phrases that are going to earn her the most points. Except for "goddess", because I'm leaving the link as is. For some silly reason. oh well, I'll do it.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:40 pm

Then:
Why didn't I highlight "I will go on pure faith to the gates with no ticket if I have to"? That's really championship stuff.
Plus, it might have her visiting the Pershing County sheriff. Professor Plum
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:41 pm

Thank you trilobyte for providing this place to wrok out my spleen. really, really a gem.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:47 pm

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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby jenkalea » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:18 pm

Great idea trilobyte!
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby graidawg » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:50 pm

oh Trilo this is brilliant can we put a score chart up as well? I mean if we score them we should know who's winning shouldn't we, plus i cant be bothered to read all the ticket beggars, also can we out the ticket begging socks?
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby Foxfur » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:08 am

graidawg wrote:oh Trilo this is brilliant can we put a score chart up as well? I mean if we score them we should know who's winning shouldn't we, plus i cant be bothered to read all the ticket beggars, also can we out the ticket begging socks?

I'm not sure why, but that phrase just tickles me.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby BBadger » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:45 am

What? After I spent all this time tabulating a scoring metric?

Desperation level:
- "Must" go this year + 5pt
- "need" + 1pt (each)
- Use of "desperate" + 10pt

Keywords (each use):
- "Overwhelmed" + 5pt
- "love" + 1pt
- "Journey" + 2pt
- "Pray" + 3pt
- "Hoping" + 2pt
- "Incredible" + 1pt
- "Opportunity" + 2pt

Bad planning and excuses:
- Lack of funds + 5pt
- Didn't know it would sell out + 5pt
- Traveling from different country + 20pts
- Part of a project, forgot tickets + 10pts
- Just barely got time off + 5pt
- Tickets sold out "quickly" + 10pt
- Tried buying *the day* they sold out + 10pt

Sentimental reasons:
- Want to come home + 5pt (+5 bonus for exact wording)
- Playa is my home + 5pt
- Family reunion + 15pt
- Birthday gift + 10pt
- Good for soul + 5pt
- Open doors + 5pt
- Bring love + 5pt
- Amazing experience + 5pt
- Prove negative feelings wrong + 10pt
- Gone for many years + 2pt per year
- The playa will provide + 10pt
- Something "lost" or missing + 5pt

Praises for others:
- Amazing people + 10pt
- Welcoming community + 5pt
- Magical people or place + 5pt

Credentials and reasons:
- States age + 5pt
- Virgin burner + 5pt
- Artist + 5pt
- Making film + 10pt
- DJ + 5pt
- Military veteran + 5pt
- Mother/father + 10pt
- Medical problems + 5pt
- College graduate + 2pt
- Uses name by reference as if people should already know it + 10pt
- BM ranger + 15pt
- Volunteers + 10pt
- Buying for family member + 5pt

Prior contributions:
- Prior attendance (2pt x claimed years attended)
- Part of a project + 10pt
- Once was a DJ + 5pt

Insults and hate:
- Hates non-contributors: + 5pt
- Hates pseudo-burners: + 10pt
- Fashionista: e.g. hates cargo pants: + 5pt
- Hates scalpers + 5pt
- Hates playa virgins + 5pt

Style points:
- First post ever + 15pt
- Multiple posts, but only for begging: + 10pt
- "Namaste" + 20pt
- "Hugs" + 5pt
- Picture of self + 10pt

Ticket Multiplier:
- Need 1 ticket 1x
- Need 2 tickets 1.1x
- Need 3 tickets 1.25x
- Need > 3 tickets 1.5x

Price multiplier:
- Greater than face value 0.5x
- Face value + trade 0.75x
- Face value 1x
- Lower tier ticket 1.5x
- Free ticket 3x
- Humorous but worthless service (fresh vegetable chef): 5x

Repeat customer bonus:
- Number of years asking for free ticket: + 15pt (each year)
- Claimed years having received free ticket: + 30pt (each year)
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby AntiM » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:51 am

I'm waiting for:
"I want to go see boobs & drink free beer & watch ppl blow shit up & dance all night n puke in the puke tent. U want to party w/ me, so be coll, need ur tikt KTXBAI."

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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby Elderberry » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:51 am

Here's one that should score pretty high viewtopic.php?f=190&t=43602&view=unread#unread
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby Dr Helix » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:09 am

Dr Helix wrote:
trilobyte wrote:I'm a bit concerned about the scorekeeping responses to the ticket seeker threads. While I think they're hilarious, I think that to new new/unwashed masses they're coming off a little too mean-spirited. I know all the radical lack of self-reliance is getting a bit overwhelming, but let's try and give folks a fighting chance at putting two and two again before we fire all starboard snark cannons :)

So please, put all the scorekeeping in this thread, and then link to the post you're referring to.


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Okay, I'm back in. This does seem like a great outlet and at the same time spares some of the ticket plea folk a cold dash of reality. But I swear, if I see one that is so heinous in its self absorbtion that it goes off the charts, then look out.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:53 am

Nice work, Badger.

Might I offer +10 for being so generous as to accept what they want us to give? I mean, that's ballzy.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby FIGJAM » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:54 am

Will snivel for BM ticket!!!
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:56 am

Can I get that on 2000 bumper stickers?
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby silkkat813 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:32 am

BBadger wrote:What? After I spent all this time tabulating a scoring metric?
Keywords (each use):
- "Overwhelmed" + 5pt
- "love" + 1pt
- "Journey" + 2pt
- "Pray" + 3pt
- "Hoping" + 2pt
- "Incredible" + 1pt
- "Opportunity" + 2pt


You forgot "miracle".
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby AntiM » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:45 am

silkkat813 wrote:
BBadger wrote:What? After I spent all this time tabulating a scoring metric?
Keywords (each use):
- "Overwhelmed" + 5pt
- "love" + 1pt
- "Journey" + 2pt
- "Pray" + 3pt
- "Hoping" + 2pt
- "Incredible" + 1pt
- "Opportunity" + 2pt


You forgot "miracle".


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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby A Jester » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:27 am

- Uses name by reference as if people should already know it + 10pt
- BM ranger + 15pt
- Volunteers + 10pt


I'd suggest that the Name we should already know be worth more points.

Also, just Rangers are singled out? I haven't seen one Ranger beg yet, but I feel like I've seen three Cafe.

I feel like the more infrastructure or safety oriented the department, the less points it should be worth. Something like :
Ranger/gate/dpw/medical/fire safety - 5 pts
artica/greeters/temple guardians - 10 pts
cafe/lamplighters/playa info/artery - 15 pts

Placement - 50 pts (I know this breaks the trend, but if you're in placement and you're here begging for a ticket....)
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby Dr Helix » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:34 am

A Jester wrote:
- Uses name by reference as if people should already know it + 10pt
- BM ranger + 15pt
- Volunteers + 10pt


I'd suggest that the Name we should already know be worth more points.

Also, just Rangers are singled out? I haven't seen one Ranger beg yet, but I feel like I've seen three Cafe.

I feel like the more infrastructure or safety oriented the department, the less points it should be worth. Something like :
Ranger/gate/dpw/medical/fire safety - 5 pts
artica/greeters/temple guardians - 10 pts
cafe/lamplighters/playa info/artery - 15 pts

Placement - 50 pts (I know this breaks the trend, but if you're in placement and you're here begging for a ticket....)


There was a post not too long ago by I believe Ranger Beauty who was looking for tickets for other Rangers. That blew me away. You would think......Ah, never mind,
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby A Jester » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:57 am

Looks like she realized the error of her ways, the thread was closed, a different ranger called her out on it, and she deleted all her posts.
I feel a little better about that. It's still kinda shocking.


I'd like to nominate this post for having such unrealistic expectations that they think laziness is the way to get a ticket.
viewtopic.php?f=190&t=43646
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby Savannah » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:50 pm

That was beautiful, BBadger. It hit all my favorite points.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby AntiM » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:55 pm

A Jester wrote:Looks like she realized the error of her ways, the thread was closed, a different ranger called her out on it, and she deleted all her posts.
I feel a little better about that. It's still kinda shocking.


I'd like to nominate this post for having such unrealistic expectations that they think laziness is the way to get a ticket.
viewtopic.php?f=190&t=43646



Especially since rangers who work their ass off the year before get a free ticket, or a staff reduced price ticket for fewer hours (half assed?) That said, I know her, and she is a terrific person. She may have missed a year and got caught by surprise as so many did. Still, I chuckled when I saw her post, and did a little head shake.

Hey, LazyBoy gets points for being concise.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby trilobyte » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:03 pm

graidawg wrote:oh Trilo this is brilliant can we put a score chart up as well? I mean if we score them we should know who's winning shouldn't we, plus i cant be bothered to read all the ticket beggars, also can we out the ticket begging socks?


Yes on the chart (make a list or suggest point values, I'll edit my 1st post in the thread to add it as a quoted section), and I'll get back to you regarding the outing of socks.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby trilobyte » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:11 pm

A Jester wrote:...just Rangers are singled out? I haven't seen one Ranger beg yet, but I feel like I've seen three Cafe.

I feel like the more infrastructure or safety oriented the department, the less points it should be worth. Something like :
Ranger/gate/dpw/medical/fire safety - 5 pts
artica/greeters/temple guardians - 10 pts
cafe/lamplighters/playa info/artery - 15 pts

Placement - 50 pts (I know this breaks the trend, but if you're in placement and you're here begging for a ticket....)


There's been a ranger, and there's been DPW. I'd think that cafe and other similar posts would fit under volunteers, unless we see a volume of people from that group.
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby A Jester » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:12 pm

*looks for the DPW ticket beg thread*
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Re: 2011 Ticket Thread Scorekeeping

Postby capjbadger » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:14 am

trilobyte wrote:
A Jester wrote:...just Rangers are singled out? I haven't seen one Ranger beg yet, but I feel like I've seen three Cafe.

I feel like the more infrastructure or safety oriented the department, the less points it should be worth. Something like :
Ranger/gate/dpw/medical/fire safety - 5 pts
artica/greeters/temple guardians - 10 pts
cafe/lamplighters/playa info/artery - 15 pts

Placement - 50 pts (I know this breaks the trend, but if you're in placement and you're here begging for a ticket....)


There's been a ranger, and there's been DPW. I'd think that cafe and other similar posts would fit under volunteers, unless we see a volume of people from that group.

There was one claiming to be a Lamplighter too.

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