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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Drawingablank » Tue May 08, 2012 7:13 am

Our monkey hut did real well last year (although the wind was pretty mild) except for 2 rebar which bent about 15 degrees at ground level. I'm thinking to upgrade all my huts rebar to a heavier size for this year, even if I have to cut it myself.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby MyDearFriend » Tue May 08, 2012 7:39 am

What size rebar was it, do you remember DAB?
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Bob » Tue May 08, 2012 8:01 am

Re: metal casting, doubt anything that fine could be done easily in the clayey silt of the playa, unless maybe you use casting sand for detailed parts like the seat grid. Playa soil would require a lot more patience forming the shapes, wetting, forming some more, letting it dry, healing the cracks and crumbles, and probably repeating the process a few times. Could work for shallow bas-relief medalions or somesuch, possibly.

As shown in the vid, doubt anyone would give you permission to create an instant burn scar. You'd have to have a good radius because of the risks involved. Easiest thing to get permission for would be casting in sand separated from the playa w/ sheet metal or a welding blanket.

Did you try googling anything, eg [ "burning man" aluminum casting ]? This guy has done work with Recycle Camp a number of times.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Drawingablank » Tue May 08, 2012 8:27 am

MyDearFriend wrote:What size rebar was it, do you remember DAB?

Not sure - it was whatever they had in 24" precut - probably 1/2 inch. Will definitely dig it out and measure it before I look for replacements.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Bob » Tue May 08, 2012 8:42 am

Grade 60 rebar wouldn't bend, but you'd want to find where to get it, precut.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Drawingablank » Tue May 08, 2012 9:24 am

Bob wrote:Grade 60 rebar wouldn't bend, but you'd want to find where to get it, precut.

Is it tough to cut with a sawzall or angle grinder?
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Bob » Tue May 08, 2012 9:49 am

Grinder, cuttoff saw or hydraulic power cutter. Not a sawzall. Let them cut it at the yard, I'd say.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby ygmir » Tue May 08, 2012 4:18 pm

Drawingablank wrote:
Bob wrote:Grade 60 rebar wouldn't bend, but you'd want to find where to get it, precut.

Is it tough to cut with a sawzall or angle grinder?


I usually have a p 3' bolt cutter if you need, no playa.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Drawingablank » Tue May 08, 2012 5:52 pm

Thanks, but due to distance Ill just find a source that will cut the 10 pieces I need.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby ygmir » Tue May 08, 2012 6:33 pm

most lumber or masonry supply places, that sell 20' sticks, also have cutters/benders for use if you buy from them.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby MyDearFriend » Wed May 09, 2012 4:12 am

Well DAB I found 24 inch lengths of 3/8 inch rebar in several stores but passed it up in favor of the half-inch stuff, which I finally found at HomeDespot.

Need to be careful there too because I found 3/8 and 1/2 inch pieces mixed together in the bin. :?
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Drawingablank » Wed May 09, 2012 7:13 am

They are definitely bigger than 3/8 because I used 3/8 for our tent pegs.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby FIGJAM » Wed May 09, 2012 10:00 am

If you bring a cordless drill, you can use these.

http://www.wholesalebolts.com/hexheadlagscrews.aspx

The 3/8" fit through the average grommet perfectly.

I used them last weekend at Saguaro Man and it was sweeeeet just zipping them in and out of the ground without pounding or prying! 8)

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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Bob » Wed May 09, 2012 10:13 am

See, this is why I don't recommend rebar, even though I have an FAQ page on it. People think throwing rebar at a problem will solve it, much like they think sprinkling vinegar on their cars or tents or feet will cure something.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Bob » Wed May 09, 2012 10:41 am

Huh? Who hijacked my account?
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby MyDearFriend » Thu May 10, 2012 2:03 am

Bob wrote:See, this is why I don't recommend rebar, even though I have an FAQ page on it. People think throwing rebar at a problem will solve it, much like they think sprinkling vinegar on their cars or tents or feet will cure something.


Well, please don't throw rebar at me, no matter how much of a problem I am. :P

I don't mind being sprinkled with vinegar. 8)
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Foxfur » Sun May 13, 2012 9:41 am

Espressodude & I took his "God of Hellfire" out for the first full systems test. We brought it to our special FX pyrotechnics class (http://foxfuramused.com/2012/05/12/pyro-school-special-fx-fireworks-mobile-flamethrowers/) and kind of stole the show...

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Re: Work in Progress

Postby MyDearFriend » Sun May 13, 2012 10:24 am

WOW :D :shock: :D :D :D
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Bob » Sun May 13, 2012 11:34 am

All you needs is tracer rounds.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby ygmir » Sun May 13, 2012 6:19 pm

Holya crap!!! wow. nice E.D. and FF!!!!
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Foxfur » Sun May 20, 2012 10:10 am

Straight outta Pyongyang, yo!
Introducing The People's Battle Wagon Mk I (인민 배틀 웨건 마크 I for my DPRK homies).
12 cans of Rust-Oleum spray paint and 7 hours of work (finished at 1am to beat the coming rains).
Now I must find Korean stencils to apply unit markings and doctrinal phrases.
I WILL BURY ALL IMPERIALIST AGGRESSORS WHO FAIL TO GENUFLECT!
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby theCryptofishist » Sun May 20, 2012 11:16 am

Oh crap. Genuflection...
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby ygmir » Thu May 24, 2012 8:48 pm

well, just back from the Hof........first shutter is up, and the doors are in place (But not final):

header/hinge detail:
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header, hinge angles (can anyone guess why the angle?)
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inside view (they'll get decorated better, later):
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side view (aluminum ladder is 10'):
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almost finished:
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and the door:
I had to make an arm to extend the bobcat fork reach, and at 600+ lbs, the doors tried to tip it forward:
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As we're guiding it into the opening:
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braced and a couple of bolts to hold for now, inside:
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Stepping out to take a photo:
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in, but not finished:
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and, to all: please excuse the huge bandwidth......it's just been a long project, and as it's nearing it's end, I wanted to share some pics.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Foxfur » Thu May 24, 2012 9:38 pm

No need to apologize. Yiggy, you are an inspiration! Marvelous job!!

I was up at Espressodude's place today doing some stenciling. Put unit numbering and ratings on the front and sides. He designed and made a Black Rock Army stencil which he sprayed on the doors and hood...
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BRA - EC = Black Rock Army - Espresso Camp
A - 4/430 = A Street - 4:00 to 4:30

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Re: Work in Progress

Postby MyDearFriend » Fri May 25, 2012 4:09 am

YAY, Foxfur!!!

Oh Yggy, what a joy to see to see those huge treasures in place. Wow!
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby Elderberry » Fri May 25, 2012 10:17 am

As usual, this thread leaves me in awe.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby burner von braun » Fri May 25, 2012 11:47 am

Cool car there FF. I have thought from time to time about painting up my car. Maybe not the commuter car, but I've got another one that really would be suited for a brighter existance. I just might have to take that leap!

And the "God of Hellfire", Yikes! Way to go ExpressoDude! Your truck ain't too shabby either!

And the Hof! So good to see you making additional progress Yg! I know you've been itching to get the doors and shutters in. Congratulations, they look great! Sometimes camera lenses have a bit of distortion, but if I'm seeing your angle hinges correctly, then my guess is that you made them that way to reduce friction and prevent them from rusting in place. Another clever design feature to be sure! Then again, I may not be interpreting what I'm seeing correctly. What I can tell for sure though, is that the Hof is an amazing building!
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby burner von braun » Sat May 26, 2012 12:37 am

Hmmm.. well, now I have a second theory about the angle hinges. It's difficult to know for sure what is welded to what, and what isn't, but if the inner long rod is now welded to the angle hinge, then I would guess that it is angled so that you could maneuver the inner long rod up and align it over it's lower sleeve in the concrete base, then lowered down and subsequently fasten in place.

whew, I'm gonna call it a day before I end up with a third angle hinge theory, the one involving too much Kraken!
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby ygmir » Sat May 26, 2012 7:01 am

well, the inside is all solid, the bar is reinforcement for the 3" heavy channel iron that the other side nests in, to there is no place to put a bar for levering open.
I'm more referring to the angle the closed shutters create with the building walls, and how they come to a point, instead of closing flat.
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Re: Work in Progress

Postby wh..sh » Sat May 26, 2012 7:12 am

Amazing work!!! I am in awe!
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