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Postby Foxfur » Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:26 am

Snow wrote:Foxfur, check out this video for our small handheld pooPer. The girl on the far right is holding it (not firing it on governor though).

Your strange technology confuses me. What does it mean??? You suppress fire gods? Make fire gods angry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOuD-8U ... r_embedded

(PS all the fire fans in that video, I made)

I tried twice but Youtube times out with dial-up sometimes.
I'll go down to the library to watch it. Must see fire fans.



As to the arrow, this is the effect we are going for (times 24) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vumkrLw ... re=related

still looking for more archers too (see http://www.trojanhorse2011.com/ if your interested)

Umm, what kind of time commitment are we talking about here.
I'm trying not to overload my fun basket but you never know...



Congrats on the arrows. I love it when a plan comes together.


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Postby EspressoDude » Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:58 am

Snow wrote:using fire spinner kevlar wicking and fuels? yes thats what I have on hand

former combat archer? I'm not but am working with one
old DAD luggage tags? what?

rumors........................say who?


heard from secret source in FAST there was an archer with Mekong delta experience involved in this project

DAD = DaNang Viet Nam...
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Postby EspressoDude » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:08 am

Propane hoses: Called local Amerigas distributor.. referred me to Hydraulics Inc. they make hoses for Amerigas.. Smallest size they have is 1/2" !!! They referred me to another local shop New Flame Hearth and Grill. Not only did they have 3/8" 350psi rated hose, but a wall of hose ends.

They started drooling over flame effect appliances, started yackin about local fire dept training sessions where they light a 'lake' of propane, then work at putting it out.
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:12 am

Edude, we make our own hoses for the small sizes for pilots (3/8" and 1/2") and get the bigger ones (3/4" and 1") made for us for Shiva Vista, Ein Hammer etc. The man with the tools might be able to help you out but he's darn busy getting married right now. Are you looking for just a few or a whole lot of them?

We first tried liquid propane for the hammer's head but it wasn't reliable enough so we had to go back to vapor phase. Getting that much volume out without freeze-up is tricky (well easy if you throw a shitload of $$ at it). The first night of Ein Hammer operation was so damn cold I had to keep switching propane tanks cuz they were freezing up. It was anticlimatic when the'd get a payoff and instead of a big boom, the flames barely made a puff up the shaft. at least it was only at 3-4AM-ish when it was below freezing so not too many people were there.

yes the head archer shot some arrows in Nam, I'll PM you a link to the archer website, although its not that secret if you poke around the horse website.

We always know its time for dinner when E-dude fires off his artillery, we use it to keep sunset time in our camp LOL
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:28 am

oops somehow didn't see that foxfur post there.

the video is of the NV Governor signing a bill with fire performers all around him, the lady in question wasn't pooPHing over his head, it always sucks to light the governor on fire. It isn't that exciting really HAHA, I wouldn't go out of your way to watch it, and there are some pix of the fans I make in the "your art" thread, none of them in action though.

Archers will need to provide their own bow (sorry no compounds, not the right look) and costumes. Perhaps arrows but we may end up making those in a batch. Friday night is the burn so pretty much you'll have to be there from sunset to after the burn at midnight. There will also be a practice/safety session at some point during the week, a few hours there, time/day TBD at this point.

And if you really wanna impress OED bring him a 20 lb. tank of CO2 or buy him a propane fill!
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:38 am

well crap looks like I mis-read the part about the hoses. Nevermind. I need more coffee!


I'd love to see any videos you have of Ein Hammer. I hardly have any videos of any of the projects I've done. Not many were showing up in Youtube as I was hoping.
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Postby EspressoDude » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:42 am

20# propane tank may get a glance from OED, as if it were a tip.

If you want to impress it better be at least 100#

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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:45 am

a 100# tank would take up room used for propane, just make sure its five 20# tanks
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Postby oneeyeddick » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:46 am

By the end of the week Co2 tanks are the hardest thing to come by at BRC.
Even DPW will give you a blowjob a full tank by fri/sat.
And yes, that is the true value, so don't let them try to lowball you
...in fact by Sat at about 5:30 PM you should be able to get 2 for 1.

This year I am not bringing anything that requires Co2 but you bet your ass I am bringing my full tanks.

I am camped at Terminal City, in the big red bus, right behind the Playawaste Raider's frontage at our camp.
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:50 am

last year I thought mine got stolen from the alley between us and TC, but remembered I told OED he was welcome to it. He was kind enough to empty it for me. Shit I could of got a DPW BJ or two without any warm PBR?

Did you get a new valve? Or you running a compressor or something?
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Postby oneeyeddick » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:53 am

It's Top Secret, I could tell you...but...you know what would happen next.
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:56 am

guess I'll have to send over some spies. Can't wait to see what it is.

BTW you going to 4th?
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Postby oneeyeddick » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:00 pm

yes, but I have to work tue, so Sunday night will be the night...I suspect the same from quite a few people out there.

BTW, check your PMs.
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:19 pm

I checked, but I don't have a case of PMS. :shock:

see ya on the 4th, but sooner I'm sure

(got the PM, check yours :wink: )
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Postby ygmir » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:26 pm

*noting the beginning of a "bromance", ahhh......new love.......
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Postby Foxfur » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:39 pm

Before my photopost, coming next, I wanted to ask abt the CO2...
I saw that you don't need it, but, you wouldn't be pushing liquid propane with it would you.
Please say yes...

Speaking of, I have a 20lb CO2 tank.
I wish I could find a place that would refill it regardless of the Pepsi on it...
I found it after it fell off a truck. It almost hit me.

If liquid pushing, check the patent at the end of my next post.
If deemed a good idea, I can secure funding...

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Postby Foxfur » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:46 pm

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New pilot light. Had some 25mph gusts and it never failed.
Stainless wool should make it almost bomb proof.

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QD shutoff. The QD is really restrictive. Hesitant to modify, UL listed.
Making 2-3 more non-QD. Flare x POL with valve.

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Footswitch for solenoid valve. Plugs in between line cord and coil.
Leaves hands free for ???

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I have to go into town today to refil the tanx. Had to borrow a tank from the neighbor...
He's giving three non-OPD tanks. I smell accumulators.

Good thinking on the hose source EspressoDude! I'd been wondering about having them make up some LP hoses but wasn't sure. As long as they're made to standard with rated / listed components, huh?


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Hoses:
2ea 3/8 flare x flare, 25ft.
I'm hesitant to bother you or the groom, I can go to a local source.
I'd rather profits go to burners than to the capitalists at 'Billy Bob's propane, screen door, and septic service'...

Check out US patent 5,756,920 - Special effect flame cannon. Pat2PDF.com is really good for patents. Just enter the number and it compiles a PDF, including art, for you to download.

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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:10 pm

Praxair will fill tanks no matter where they are from, plus they are cheaper than airgas around here. Don't know if you have on around you. OED doesn't use CO2 to push propane, just to........hahaha he can tell you if he wants

Oh we've got the liquids down just fine now (although propane is still quirky with the phase change), the LP just weren't reliable enough with the electric ignition on Ein hammer. We use N2 to push them "other" liquids. If you like the pooPHers you'll LOVE liquid shooters! They even let us use them in the downtown reno show and we've got some good plans for this year, mwahahaha. You really should come FF! http://compression.controlledburnreno.com/

I know where you'll be found on the playa now hahaha :wink:

Looking good in the pix, looks like we got another addict. FIRE, its better than crack. Though the QD's and the valve there seem extraneous to me. We don't use them at all, just fittings to the tanks. The less fittings the better, especially ones with restrictions.
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:11 pm

Yeah best just get the hoses locally. There are no profits involved for us, just trying to help out.
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Postby EspressoDude » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:23 pm

Foxfur is hooked....on fire

Awesome score, just came home with Atco 3710 crimper set and and Atco 3300 crimper set, 5/16 - 5/8 hose size, one and 2 braid; Transicold hose tool set, and a leak detector kit. Halogen detector, dye and black light.

good score, Last night a friend says a guy has been promising for 2.5 years to take it away. I told him I would be there today.

He asked me if I wanted a halogen leak detector set.
Does it work on propane???,
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:34 pm

NICE score!!!!
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Postby Foxfur » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:48 pm

Snow wrote:Praxair will fill tanks no matter where they are from...

Yay!

If you like the pooPHers you'll LOVE liquid shooters!
Yes I will :)

They even let us use them in the downtown reno show and we've got some good plans for this year, mwahahaha. You really should come FF!
Yes I should!

I know where you'll be found on the playa now hahaha :wink:
Yes you do!

Looking good in the pix, looks like we got another addict.
Yes we do!

FIRE, its better than crack.
Yes it is!

Though the QD's and the valve there seem extraneous to me.
Ah! I thought so too. It would be all too easy to snap right off when drunken Jojo wanders by. The hose w/ the QD'd was a score for $8 at Surplus Gizmos. It's kind of usless due to the low flow but may come in handy.

We don't use them at all, just fittings to the tanks.
Oh? I thought I'd read somewhere that them was required. If not, more $$ for other thangs.


I just went to the Compression site but can't find the date, oi!
Let me know cause I want to see if I can make it.

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Postby Foxfur » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:52 pm

EspressoDude wrote:Foxfur is hooked....on fire

Awesome score, just came home with Atco 3710 crimper set and and Atco 3300 crimper set, 5/16 - 5/8 hose size, one and 2 braid; Transicold hose tool set, and a leak detector kit. Halogen detector, dye and black light.

good score, Last night a friend says a guy has been promising for 2.5 years to take it away. I told him I would be there today.

He asked me if I wanted a halogen leak detector set.
Does it work on propane???,
Take it and find out. Gone


That is incredibly awesome!
EspressoDude is gonna be pimpin his hose.
What a great week, eh?

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Postby oneeyeddick » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:54 pm

Foxfur wrote:
Snow wrote:\Oh? I thought I'd read somewhere that them was required. If not, more $$ for other thangs.




They are required, as In they are supposed to be there, as in you really should have them there, as in they better be there or else.


And Compression is July 23rd in Reno, it's a hhooott!
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Postby Snow » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:30 pm

"BY the valve there" damn typos. yes a shutoff valve at the tank is required, QD's are not. I'm painting today in an enclosed room due to rain, don't mind me, all the fumes ya know.
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Postby Foxfur » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:08 am

Grizelda III

I swapped out the foot switch for an old control pendant I uncovered in the shop.
Much better, the body is of a soft and incredibly sexy feeling rubber.
Swapped out the 3/8" solenoid for a NIB 1/2" one.
Holy crap! The new SV's Cv is 1.7, no idea on the old one.
The flame at 90 to 120 PSI is of such velocity as to be almost useless, for fire rings...
The sound is incredible though!
It has a pronounced roaring whistle and sounds like a cross between the Batmobile and a piccolo pete.
The flame when the accumulator is fully dumped is tall and portly.
Daddy like!
Reg'd down to 30 PSI it's turning out great rings.
I found my 'flammable gas' box. Reg's, fittings, etc.
Found a duplex manifold to connect 2 tanks to one hose. Less icing, yay!
Went into town to fill propane tanx ($70 for 3 20# and a 30#).
Also stopped by the closed library, sat on the bench outside and DL'd
four Ein Hammer videos, Three Fluffer videos, and EspressoDude's FOGBANK and Mole Shoot vids.

Damn eDude, that's one serious boom. I had no idea that you had motorized traverse on the sucker.
That removed any remaining flaccidity I may have had.
I can't wait to see it. There's a good chance we'll annoy the neighbors 1/2 mile away. At least I'm hoping so...


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DIN connector for new SV.
Removeable, should prevent unauthorized use along
with the padlockable ball valve.


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Sexy rubber pendant.


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Postby ygmir » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:22 am

Ff:
you're inspiring me to get back working on my "flaming pinwheel of death" Propane powered flaming pinwheel.

dang, like I need another project!!!
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Postby Foxfur » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:28 am

ygmir wrote:Ff:
you're inspiring me to get back working on my "flaming pinwheel of death" Propane powered flaming pinwheel.

dang, like I need another project!!!


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Postby ygmir » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:31 am

Foxfur wrote:
ygmir wrote:Ff:
you're inspiring me to get back working on my "flaming pinwheel of death" Propane powered flaming pinwheel.

dang, like I need another project!!!


A project delayed is a project denied...


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Postby EspressoDude » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:31 am

Ff:

the dual tank arrangement is nice, but it needs 2 ea 1/4 turn valves...safety third..

check the valve specs. probably not rated for fuel gasses...

nothing like the sound of screaming venting propane.................on fire
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