POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

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POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby clocksnmirrors » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:01 pm

RED LAKE PLAYA

JUST NORTH OF KINGMAN, AZ


found this one while googling dry lake beds near az and nm

looks promising. bmorg should check into it. if pershing wants to get greedy maybe it's time to move on
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby Sham » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:24 pm

It appears that these little counties north of Reno have made an art out of screwing the burner crowd passing through. I would personally love to see the event moved out of Nevada just to shove the lost dollars up their greedy asses.
There are so many other places that would welcome this event and the revenue it brings.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby Jackass » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:23 pm

No matter where the event would move there will be a large ransom to pay, if you think all local government won't have their hands out and be performing shake downs you're dilusional. They've worked 20yrs. to get where they are with these folks, where ever they move it'll be the same old shit. Court, court and more court.
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Postby clocksnmirrors » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:30 pm

nevertheless i can't help thinking that exploring options is a good thing
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Postby Eric » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:22 pm

Just shift it to the part of the playa that's in Washoe county & cut out Pershing altogether. The hit to their county budget will teach 'em...
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Postby unjonharley » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:42 pm

Maybe a law firm could hit them with a class action on behalf of the participants.
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Postby OUtback UFO » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:05 pm

Eric wrote:Just shift it to the part of the playa that's in Washoe county & cut out Pershing altogether. The hit to their county budget will teach 'em...



Simple and easier than the other ideas out there... :D
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Postby theCryptofishist » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:18 pm

It depends on the BLM. That's where a good relationship with them might come in handy. Does anyone know how much of the area for large gatherings is in Washoe? Of course, if 9-mile, or whatever the designated entrance is, is in Pershing that's potentially sticky.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby Bob » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:29 pm

The '97 event on Hualapai, mostly involving private land, was in Washoe. That went well.

The '98 site near the 3-mile playa entrance was split about 2/3 Washoe, 1/3 Pershing. Think my camp was right on the county line. In wet years, the lower playa nearer to Gerlach is a bog. So is Hualapai.

I'm sure there's a magical rainbow playa somewhere.

The DeLorme Nevada Atlas & Gazetteer is a fair to middling map set that shows county boundaries, FWIW. Sad that the Rand McNally store on Market St closed, they used to carry it. REI might have it.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby Theraplst » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:12 pm

I had a dream where about a 1/4 mile circle around the man was made into a 2' water pool. we must make this happen.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby maladroit » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:47 am

Theraplst wrote:I had a dream where about a 1/4 mile circle around the man was made into a 2' water pool. we must make this happen.


At that point it would be easier to find a WET lake bed and camp on rafts.
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Postby graidawg » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:04 am

maladroit wrote:
Theraplst wrote:I had a dream where about a 1/4 mile circle around the man was made into a 2' water pool. we must make this happen.


At that point it would be easier to find a WET lake bed and camp on rafts.



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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby Nipple » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:06 am

Jesus, people.

If you don't lock your rafts, you can't expect them to be there when you return.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby MacGlenver » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:14 am

I've heard mentions of trying to secure private land on which to permanently base the event. Are there any realistic options for this where you could get a comparable "playa" environment, or are most of those federal/state land? As I understand it, that would also eliminate the requirement for a police presence (though, some amount of a police presence is probably necessary for basic safety, so you wouldnt eliminate it entirely). Obviously this isnt a novel idea, I'm just curious to know how realistic it is since I hear it often.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby Bob » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:23 am

Theraplst wrote:I had a dream where about a 1/4 mile circle around the man was made into a 2' water pool. we must make this happen.


Already been done.

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Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:31 pm

MacGlenver wrote:I've heard mentions of trying to secure private land on which to permanently base the event. Are there any realistic options for this where you could get a comparable "playa" environment, or are most of those federal/state land? As I understand it, that would also eliminate the requirement for a police presence (though, some amount of a police presence is probably necessary for basic safety, so you wouldnt eliminate it entirely). Obviously this isnt a novel idea, I'm just curious to know how realistic it is since I hear it often.

See, people have come on this board and said that taking it off public land would strip us of the protection of the Federal Aegis (I'm being a little high-falutin here because I don't understand it all, so I'm going a little artificial in hopes that people will be careful with the quasi-information) and that they could then cancel the event.
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Postby Candybox » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:01 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
MacGlenver wrote:I've heard mentions of trying to secure private land on which to permanently base the event. Are there any realistic options for this where you could get a comparable "playa" environment, or are most of those federal/state land? As I understand it, that would also eliminate the requirement for a police presence (though, some amount of a police presence is probably necessary for basic safety, so you wouldnt eliminate it entirely). Obviously this isnt a novel idea, I'm just curious to know how realistic it is since I hear it often.

See, people have come on this board and said that taking it off public land would strip us of the protection of the Federal Aegis (I'm being a little high-falutin here because I don't understand it all, so I'm going a little artificial in hopes that people will be careful with the quasi-information) and that they could then cancel the event.


From what I understand, holding it on private land would put the land-owner in a questionable legal position regarding liability. They can be held responsible for knowingly allowing an event where crimes will be committed. Think of the parents who get in trouble for having drunk minors on their watch / property, but on a *MUCH* larger scale. They can also be held accountable on a civil level for any accidents that were to happen.
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Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:10 pm

fuck it, lets just throw in with the juggelos.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby lucky420 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:37 pm

My head just exploded
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby unjonharley » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:44 pm

Some one please tell me again.. Why should Burning Man move?
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Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:58 pm

unjonharley wrote:Some one please tell me again.. Why should Burning Man move?

You know, it's just another one of the recurring conversations on eplaya. Rotating reasons that don't actually add up to compelling action. Maybe this year it's to escape media attention.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby clocksnmirrors » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:50 pm

lucky420 wrote:My head just exploded


a little club soda'll get that right out :wink:
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby wh..sh » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:25 am

MacGlenver wrote:As I understand it, that would also eliminate the requirement for a police presence (though, some amount of a police presence is probably necessary for basic safety, so you wouldnt eliminate it entirely).

I will put this nicely... I am not going to trust all you fuckos without police presence :D
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Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:37 am

But you trust me.


And Bob. You trust me and Bob.
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Postby wh..sh » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:39 am

I trust you and bob, exactly in that order :P
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby Lonesomebri » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:29 pm

And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby clocksnmirrors » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:26 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.



my first college roommate played pink floyd continuously until i wanted to gut myself
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Postby theCryptofishist » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:37 pm

clocksnmirrors wrote:
Lonesomebri wrote:And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.



my first college roommate played pink floyd continuously until i wanted to gut myself

I think there's a way to capture those roommates in a constant haze of pot smoke induced pocket universe, and shrink it down to the size of a large houseplant. They are so much less annoying that way. Did you major in gravitational astronomy?
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Re: POST ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR BM 2013

Postby clocksnmirrors » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:46 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:I think there's a way to capture those roommates in a constant haze of pot smoke induced pocket universe, and shrink it down to the size of a large houseplant. They are so much less annoying that way. Did you major in gravitational astronomy?



nah i mostly majored in keeping up appearances with a concentration in getting it over with
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