Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

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Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby uncle sticky » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:23 am

Was Gilligans' Island a Cargo Cult? Did the professors' devices ever work, or did the castaways enter into group psychosis and believe he could summon battery power with coconuts? Was Skipper eventually sacrificed like Piggy in a Lord of the Flies devolution, or was he elevated like Hurley? For that matter, was Lost a Cargo Cult? Did Star Trek steal Gilligans' red shirt as sacrificial lamb concept?
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby tatonka » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:25 am

As a kid I loved that bamboo car gilligan drove around :)
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby trilobyte » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:54 am

No it wasn't. Being stranded on an island and making stuff out of found/scavenged objects isn't what makes a cargo cult. The show was about the castaways, and aside from an odd episode or two they didn't have any worshippers. Cargo cult is about the indigenous people who become worshippers. Had there been a spinoff show about a tribe that found their "advanced" gizmos and set up shrines at their old campsite or on the beach where the Minnow ran aground… THAT would have been a cargo cult. :)
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby uncle sticky » Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:14 am

Really, Trilo? Really? They weren't native, but weren't they trying to reconstruct a society and technology they didn't really understand in hopes of attracting the Cargo (rescue was the cargo, a return to their old lives the bounty). Much of what they did seemed implausible and ridiculous, attempts to effect a wealth and technology transfer by mimicking a more advanced civilization? Aren't all cargo cults trying to achieve a level of prosperity and comfort that seems mystical? go!
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Captain Goddammit » Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:41 am

I think it's an interesting viewpoint. Gilligan's Island's people were from the land where the "cargo" comes from, they weren't mystified and bewildered by it like a primitive culture might be... so in that sense, they aren't quite what this year's theme means.
But on the other hand, it's like someone who converts to another religion; they weren't always a primitive tribe but they became one and ended up being somewhat a "cargo cult".
If that argument can be made, this year I could re-christen my vessel "Minnow" and get me a tilley hat :)
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Ugly Dougly » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:12 pm

It's about more than a tropical island, just as The Floating World was not just about Japan.
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby CornMan » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:43 pm

Whether or not Gilligan's Island was a cargo cult, it would make a great theme for a camp.
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Nipple » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:41 am

I think the original 7 Castaways were not a cargo cult...However let's assume that Gilligan continues to fuck everything up. (That guy, right?!)

Eventually they're going to go get around to goin' down to bonin' town. Assuming that Mary-Ann and Ginger have a bunch of babies, their kids, or their kids kids, might begin to come up with some distorted ideas of what is on those ships that Great-Grandpa Gilligan keeps accidentally sinking/turning away.

However, they'd likely be a Cargo Cargo Cult Cult, all building giant fetishes of coconuts out of ...coconuts.

So I guess, Gilligan's Island + Time = Possible Cargo Cult.
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby trilobyte » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:02 am

[I just realized I'd missed this before. I'm giving the thread a nudge over to the theme board since that's a better fit for theme discussion.]

Really, uncle sticky, really. They weren't mimicking a car (or worshipping it) in hopes that some great hope from the sky would come back and bring them gifts and happiness… they were making the coconut car (and other trappings of their former lives) for utility (in the case of the car, transportation). It was a convenience while they were making do on the island, and a part of the tv sitcom's schtick. No part of what the castaways were doing was worship or could be construed as a religion, could it?

Cargo is stuff and things. Rescue is more like exodus and salvation ("take me to heaven, oh lord"). Even if the castaways worshipped that coconut car or any other thing they built (which they did not) or if they prayed regularly for rescue (which they did not - Sherwood Schwartz sitcoms were good like that), simply praying for something doesn't make it a cargo cult in my opinion. That doesn't mean that Gilligan's Island wasn't a great show, and if you want to draw inspiration from it (either visually or conceptually) for something you want to build on the playa don't let that stop you.
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Nipple » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:11 am

John Frum.

He comes.

He brings Globetrotters.
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Corvus » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:26 am

I rather prefer this interpretation of Gilligan's Island:

http://www.sff.net/people/adam-troy/random/theories.htm
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Eric » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:22 pm

Corvus wrote:I rather prefer this interpretation of Gilligan's Island:

http://www.sff.net/people/adam-troy/random/theories.htm


I almost didn't read it because I hate the way the text runs to the margins of the browser, but, goddam, that was funny!
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby uncle sticky » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:14 pm

okay, I'm on board with that explanation
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Nipple » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:32 pm

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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:02 pm

I agree with the previous four posters. Do we have consensus?
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby unjonharley » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:50 pm

cargo cultist make things a offering for/to the dog's..

Burning man and gilligans island makes shit to play with ..
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby maryanimal » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:02 pm

unjonharley wrote:cargo cultist make things a offering for/to the dog's..

Burning man and gilligans island makes shit to play with ..



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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Ugly Dougly » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:10 pm

What the fuck, it's Burning Man, nobody really cares. Wear a pair of coconut shells on your boobs.
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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:36 am

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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby Schtev » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:08 pm

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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby graidawg » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:29 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:I agree with the previous four posters. Do we have consensus?



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Re: Gilligans' Island=Cargo Cult

Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:43 pm

Video is kind of like a dead horse...


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