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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:54 am

please please please can we just shut the fuck up now about this, so that i might enjoy my goddamn kool-aid?





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Postby emergenttech » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:26 am

kool-aid?

you really drink that stuff?
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Postby AntiM » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:54 am

emergenttech wrote:kool-aid?

you really drink that stuff?


Either you have no sense of humor, or no grasp of the history of cults.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:54 am

yes, and i mix in plenty of playa dust with it for Mad Flava.



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Postby ygmir » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:08 am

has anyone heard about the dangers of persistent background radiation and radio waves, exposure to such being deadly over time, and, inescapable?



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Postby emergenttech » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:14 am

Oh yeah there are loads of risks out there...

Cost Benefit Analysis and your attitude to risk. If you have an appreciation of the risks you can often mitigate that facts. We all use mobile phones but I wouldn't want a base station in my home. So we put them out of harms reach where we can enjoy the benefits without undue risk.

So its better to understand the actual risk and mitigate it...
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Postby ygmir » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:23 am

true,

now, I'm going to make a fat-free, sugar-free, white bread sandwich, with mayo, drink it with splenda and kool-aid, while sitting on a Mule under the hangmans tree wearing a noose.......

after my meal, I'll be heading to the Zyclon "B" showers.......just in case I spill.......
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Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:37 am

made this batch for Terminal City last year, here, there's some left.




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Postby Fire_Moose » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:38 am

I dunno if anyone has said this yet...im sure they have but it's worth repeating...


Read the back of yer ticket!

taking it upon yerself to learn (or not care) about breathing in a fine dust is part of radical self reliance
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Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:43 am

i think i must have been a dog in my last life...


i looked at that picture and couldn't decide whether to fuck it or eat it.
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Postby ygmir » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:45 am



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Postby C.f.M. » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:59 am

Roberto Dobbisano wrote:i think i must have been a dog in my last life...


i looked at that picture and couldn't decide whether to fuck it or eat it.


I fail to see why it is an either or situation.
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Postby ygmir » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:15 am

C.f.M. wrote:
Roberto Dobbisano wrote:i think i must have been a dog in my last life...


i looked at that picture and couldn't decide whether to fuck it or eat it.


I fail to see why it is an either or situation.



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Postby C.f.M. » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:20 am

It (below) double posted and I don't see how to delete it...
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Postby C.f.M. » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:21 am

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Postby emergenttech » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:36 am

@Fire_Moose

Why then does the BM give safety instructions then at all???
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Postby Fire_Moose » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:44 am

not instructions, suggestions.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:07 am

I really hope the exposures and harm coming to people who go to BM (inc my friends) are negligible. But as you can appreciate its fairly hard to quantify.


YEah. Probably because they are so effin' tiny that we don't have any data.

(Note to self: "See this page with those posters" is not a good button to press for my blood pressure. Whoops, now I'm doomed to die within some remote period of time of some remote relative of hypertension, simply because I exposed myself to the risk. Can I get a support group going here? No, because these are my private thoughts.)
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Postby emergenttech » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:51 am

[quote="Fire_Moose"]not instructions, suggestions.[/quote]

If the BM site talks of risks of burning vehicles - Dioxins etc etc [things which can easily be avoided], would it not make sense to mention the actual playa itself?!!
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Postby Fire_Moose » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:03 am

it would make total sense.....if it were dangerous...
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Postby magicmarty » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:16 am

ET,

Playa dust can also be easily avoided. Don't come to where it is. It would be very hard to eliminate the Playa dust from the Playa so I guess the next best thing to do is to eliminate youself from the Playa. End of story!
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Postby emergenttech » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:55 am

real helpful marty - like thats the whole point...
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Postby C.f.M. » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:31 pm

emergenttech wrote:Can anybody here, not understand my fears with regard to the dust?


I don't fear that anymore than I fear any potential risk on the playa leading to injury or death.

Like a slide.

Frankly the more one knows about this dust the better we can protect ourselves.


And I learned everything I could possible know, including sciencey stuff I didn't understand, before I went, and prepared myself accordingly, with a lovely gas mask.

How many people signed up for a death sentence when they came to BM?


All of us, really - but then, every breath we take is a death sentence, what with our mortal coils and all.

Irreversible lung damage and anxiety for years to come. Quite frankly that is what I got.


That sucks. The damage is there, but the anxiety is a reaction you chose to have.

I know how to take risks


Well, then, you probably know that when one is knowingly going into high-risk situations, they should be fully prepared. Like reading the abundance of information available on what the playa consists of, and noting all of the packing lists, official and non, that mention some sort of protection for one's face, from the playa dust.

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Lucky. I just don't have the upper body strength.

have driven through remote parts of the world, been shot at etc.


Don't see how that relates to spending time out in the middle of BRC.

But these are risks that one elects to take. I did not elect for lung damage as risk.


Yes, you did, first when you bought your ticket, and then when you showed up - and stayed.

As much as I had a good time at BM...I really don't need the agony of the potential health problems.


So stay home, then. There's plenty of hot burner action all over, the rest of the year. Take the time and money spent on the playa and go to some Regionals.

As much of a time as I had a BM, whether good, puking my guts out, or rubbing salve into my burnt, chafed skin, I probably won't go back, either. Isn't a big deal.

Sorry if I missed something pertinent to my replies, or repeated what has already been said.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:38 pm

Double message! Whoo-hoo!
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:38 pm

C.f.M wrote:Sorry if I missed something pertinent to my replies, or repeated what has already been said.
I'm just amazed that anyone has the patience left to reply to anything he's saying.
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Postby LostinReno » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:48 pm

Costume idea for ET......
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Dude, the whole Great Basin was a class 1 nuclear risk in the early 60's (comparable to Chernobyl, ok maybe not that big, but it sounded good), I think playa dust is the least of your worries.......Uh oh, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that? :oops:

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Postby C.f.M. » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:54 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
C.f.M wrote:Sorry if I missed something pertinent to my replies, or repeated what has already been said.
I'm just amazed that anyone has the patience left to reply to anything he's saying.


Work is really slow, and I've been literally bored to tears most of the day.
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Postby LostinReno » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:56 pm

C.f.M. wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
C.f.M wrote:Sorry if I missed something pertinent to my replies, or repeated what has already been said.
I'm just amazed that anyone has the patience left to reply to anything he's saying.


Work is really slow, and I've been literally bored to tears most of the day.

Are you in the cubicle next to me????
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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:43 pm

LostinReno wrote:
C.f.M. wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
C.f.M wrote:Sorry if I missed something pertinent to my replies, or repeated what has already been said.
I'm just amazed that anyone has the patience left to reply to anything he's saying.


Work is really slow, and I've been literally bored to tears most of the day.

Are you in the cubicle next to me????

No, just across the aisle.
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