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Postby mytripod » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:49 pm

I poked around a bit to make sure I'm not repeating something already out there. As a middle aged lady who ALWAYS has to pee, especially in the middle of the night, I have my own little toilet bucket at my camp. If you are planning to have your own pee bucket, I recommend Feline Pine as a great filler to soak up your pee. I've used it for many years with my cats, so I know that it is absorbent and good with odors. I try to use the portapotties as much as possible, but no way am I putting on my shoes and walking to them at 4am. I've experimented with different fillers for my pee bucket and Feline Pine is my first choice. You can even dump it in your compost when you get home if you want to.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby trilobyte » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:56 pm

Glad it works for you, but personally I'd much rather trek to the porto in the night when nature calls than haul an old bucket of pee home with me. Slip-on shoes and clothes that aren't hard to slip on/off make it less jarring.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby 9ah » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:24 pm

Pee Funnel Camp has an answer for that... You could use one of the gallon water jugs with a twist off top to hold water...

I schlep to the portos...
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby mudpuppy000 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:55 am

Yeah, pee funnel and a sealable bottle. Take the bottle to the portos in the morning and empty it. No smelliness. :D
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby junglesmacks » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:45 am

As above, leftover 1 gallon water jugs WITH A CAP work perfect for this.


Yet another reason why I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever EVER buy one of those handle suitcase type water containers again.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby unjonharley » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:20 am

I get my cran-grape in a large jug/handle. A bout two a month.. Saving then for pee jug gifts @ TTITD.. For me, I soak the pee up in cat litter.. No sloping around on the ride home on the trailer..
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby BBadger » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:36 pm

Just make sure your piss jug is well labeled.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby Elorrum » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:54 pm

I walk to the portos at night. Same as when I go camping. Same as I walk to the bathroom inside a house at night. Easy to slip on clothes and shoes, good point, Trilo. It's so nice to get back into bed, when you get back, isn't it? It isn't clear to me why some find a need to adopt new elimination strategies: like not sitting down, using baby wipes, and peeing in containers they need to empty later, or using some sort of feline litter box product.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby 9ah » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:07 pm

Pee funnels are just fun!
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby Elorrum » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:08 pm

9ah wrote:Pee funnels are just fun!

I can appreciate they take a little practice. I got one and just made a mess the first time.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby 9ah » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:24 pm

I literally LOL'ed... Practice during the day with a half-full bladder. Once you get it down it's a piece of cake!
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby junglesmacks » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:05 pm

I call helmet-cam...
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby ygmir » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:42 pm

junglesmacks wrote:I call helmet-cam...



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Re: Feline Pine

Postby Patsh » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:49 pm

She Wee works great (with just a little practice) and my son gets chocolate milk in white plastic bottles (with cap) just right for over night, and easy to take to the Jots in the morning. I take the label off and felt-tip a skull & crossbones on the side. Makes it easier not to drink by accident. :shock:
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby BBadger » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:37 pm

I usually overhydrate at BM, and alcohol/diuretics and more hydration to boot. Then I go to sleep, but later that water has to leave my body. The piss-jug saves me from having to get up and bike to the bathroom in the cold of the night or during the heat of day, and all the extra overhead that comes with it: dressing, putting on my boots, unlocking the bike, riding to the bathroom, locking the bike, waiting for a toilet to open up, unlocking the bike again, riding back to camp, taking off my boots, undressing, and trying to fall back asleep again. I even have the benefit of being able to piss while standing without a funnel!

I piss in that jug and thinking "heh heh heh, man did I just save myself a trip. Now I can go back to sleep and deal with this when I get up."

There was even one time that I felt I wouldn't even make it to the bathroom because I had to piss so badly. That was when the piss jug REALLY hit home, and I was glad I chose/found a large bottle.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby AntiM » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:40 am

9ah wrote:I literally LOL'ed... Practice during the day with a half-full bladder. Once you get it down it's a piece of cake!


Mine is a squishy go-girl and I peed all over myself. I have a spare new in package if anyone wants it. Going to try the pstyle next. Does the size of the bush matter?
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby mytripod » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:05 am

I was VERY thankful for my pee bucket the last night I was there, because I developed a sudden case of the runs and no way would I have made it to the portapotties a block and a half away. That bucket saved my butt. And being a solo camper, my pee bucket never got full, because I just used it at night and in the afternoons if I was in camp taking a shade break. I never made it to the pee funnel camp last time, even though I brought a "yellow" nalgene just for that. (I didn't make it to many places my first year). They are first on my list this year because I need extended peeability for the far reaches of the playa, expecially as I tend to have my daypack loaded with coconut water and beer. As for going to the portapotties in the middle of the night, some of you are obviously not as old as I am and can make it that far when you have to go. I've got an old lady bladder, kegels aside. I can barely make it to the bathroom at home some nights, and that's 10 feet from my bed. I'm also blind as a bat without my glasses, which is why I never go far to pee in the middle of the night when I'm camping. In the past I've fallen over rocks, been smacked in the face with branches, and rolled down a little dip when I squatted on uneven ground. I'm usually so sleepy when I wake up to pee that I forget to grab my glasses. I can picture myself groping for funnel and trying to unscrew nalgene and it is not a pretty picture. I know my bladder and my limitations, and the fully sealable for travel pee bucket I have, with fully absorbent feline pine and enzyme packets, was a very successful addition to my little camp. To each her own.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby mytripod » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:11 am

I worked in a mining camp in Alaska one summer, and all of us had "peecans" in our cabin tents, because the bathroom was in the main building and about 50 trillion giant mosquitoes lurked outside. I used a peecan one winter in Alaska too, during a blizzard, because you couldn't even SEE the outhouse, much less get to it.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby AntiM » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:51 am

We have a lugaloo in camp for emergencies, but the pee jug can be emptied daily. I am not precisely young either. Heh. We have tried all sorts of smell killers, and yes our cats like feline pine, but my preference is not to deal with a bucket. Of poo. I have to do that when riding along on the truck. So yeah, to each their own but you will hear a lot of opinions here.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby mytripod » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:04 am

I don't have a problem with other people's opinions, as long as mine are respected also. As for the poo, that was an emergency, and I hadn't planned to use my pee bucket for that. Portapotties are an absolute must at a big event like BM, and the people who service them do an amazing job, but a person like myself, who knows her bladder and doesn't mind taking home her own bucket, is actually putting less pressure on the potties. That's a good thing in my view. It's my camp, I'm the one dealing with it, and it works for me. And people who build self-composting toilets typically use sawdust as the medium (you will usually find a bucket of sawdust next to the toilet, with a scoop), so it's a good, natural solution that is far less toxic to the environment than the chemicals in portapotties. And speaking of those portapotties, I'm one of the people who ALWAYS leaves them cleaner than when I walked in. I pick up loose paper, wipe down the seat, and never ever throw MOOP in the toilet. I'm perfectly comfortable with MY elimination strategies, thank you very much.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby Elorrum » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:01 pm

Oh dear... I just said I don't get it, for burning man. It's usually nice weather at night. Your burn. I fully respect that. I can appreciate a good Plan and getting the gear dialed in.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby mytripod » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:35 pm

No problem. My point was just that it wasn't a NEW strategy for me, but simply a variation of things that work for me, and I thought I'd share it in case it worked for somebody else too. And as for people who hover or throw MOOP in the potties, I've found that those people often do the same thing in the default world when in public restrooms. It's gross, dumb, and rude in whatever setting it is done. Those are the same people who throw used disposable baby diapers out their car windows when traveling. And when you get 50,000 people together for a week, there are always some of that group present, along with the thieves, predators, and mean people.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby mytripod » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:06 pm

Here's something from my neck of the woods to lighten up this conversation.

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Re: Feline Pine

Postby unjonharley » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:22 pm

I use the cedar saw dust from under the table saw for the Lug A Lou.. It can ride home on the trailer along with kitchen water..
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby Savannah » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:08 pm

BBadger wrote:I usually overhydrate at BM, and alcohol/diuretics and more hydration to boot. Then I go to sleep, but later that water has to leave my body. The piss-jug saves me from having to get up and bike to the bathroom in the cold of the night or during the heat of day, and all the extra overhead that comes with it: dressing, putting on my boots, unlocking the bike, riding to the bathroom, locking the bike, waiting for a toilet to open up, unlocking the bike again, riding back to camp, taking off my boots, undressing, and trying to fall back asleep again. I even have the benefit of being able to piss while standing without a funnel!

I piss in that jug and thinking "heh heh heh, man did I just save myself a trip. Now I can go back to sleep and deal with this when I get up."

There was even one time that I felt I wouldn't even make it to the bathroom because I had to piss so badly. That was when the piss jug REALLY hit home, and I was glad I chose/found a large bottle.


This is exactly why I have a detergent bottle and a funnel. It saves me 45-50 minutes per day over the course of the Burn that I could've spent plodding to and from the portos. That time adds up! And it gives me probably an extra hour of sleep per night, 'cause once I wake up, I can't get back to sleep.

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9ah wrote:I literally LOL'ed... Practice during the day with a half-full bladder. Once you get it down it's a piece of cake!


Mine is a squishy go-girl and I peed all over myself. I have a spare new in package if anyone wants it. Going to try the pstyle next. Does the size of the bush matter?


Ugh, I hate the Go Girl. The squishiness makes it very difficult to get a tight seal. (No wonder it was so cheap.) Any rigid model is probably going to work way better. I've never tried the P-style. I like the Freshette, but it's wayyy overpriced. Believe it or not, I bought an elliptically shaped automotive funnel for $3 as an experiment, because it's similar in shape. One of the ePlaya ladies recommended it, but I haven't tried it yet.

If it works, the automotive funnel is going to be the tent funnel, and the Freshette will be the mobile funnel, because it breaks down into two parts.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby Nipple » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:38 pm

I tend to roll out of bed in the middle of the night (10am) and wander to the portos wearing a suit jacket, boxers and a single sock. Hands all pressed against my face to block out the raging horror of the blinding flashlight of sobriety.

I might announce something like, "I'M STILL ASLEEP. I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MY CLOTHING".
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby Savannah » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:47 pm

Nipple wrote:I tend to roll out of bed in the middle of the night (10am) and wander to the portos wearing a suit jacket, boxers and a single sock. Hands all pressed against my face to block out the raging horror of the blinding flashlight of sobriety.

I might announce something like, "I'M STILL ASLEEP. I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MY CLOTHING".


This might explain half of the clothing choices one sees on the playa.
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby BBadger » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:51 pm

mytripod wrote:No problem. My point was just that it wasn't a NEW strategy for me, but simply a variation of things that work for me, and I thought I'd share it in case it worked for somebody else too. And as for people who hover or throw MOOP in the potties, I've found that those people often do the same thing in the default world when in public restrooms. It's gross, dumb, and rude in whatever setting it is done. Those are the same people who throw used disposable baby diapers out their car windows when traveling. And when you get 50,000 people together for a week, there are always some of that group present, along with the thieves, predators, and mean people.


But what about the assholes who leave baby diapers in the water near hot springs?! Yes, I discovered that once! That should be a capital crime!
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Re: Feline Pine

Postby Nipple » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:26 pm

BBadger wrote:But what about the assholes who leave baby diapers in the water near hot springs?! Yes, I discovered that once! That should be a capital crime!


That's like your cat staring at you while he pees all over your coffee table.

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Re: Feline Pine

Postby illy dilly » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:39 pm

Nipple wrote:I tend to roll out of bed in the middle of the night (10am) and wander to the portos wearing a suit jacket, boxers and a single sock. Hands all pressed against my face to block out the raging horror of the blinding flashlight of sobriety.

I might announce something like, "I'M STILL ASLEEP. I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MY CLOTHING".

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