Prevailing wind 2012

Questions, answers, tips & tricks for newbies and veterans alike

Prevailing wind 2012

Postby MikieCGY » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:09 pm

[Thread split from prevailing wind thread about 2007 event by moderator]

Holy Crap!! CHANCE OF SNOW?? lol nice
User avatar
MikieCGY
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:36 pm

Re: Prevailing wind and 2007 camp direction

Postby Bob » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:17 pm

Elevation on the Weather Underground site is wrong, the Black Rock Desert lakebed is only about 1200m, but it gets occasional sparse light snow through late winter, and the nearby mountains are often snow-capped through mid-spring.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/

"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
User avatar
Bob
 
Posts: 6762
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:00 am
Location: San Francisco
Burning Since: 1986
Camp Name: Royaneh

Re: Prevailing wind and 2007 camp direction

Postby Mojojita » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:30 pm

MikieCGY wrote:Holy Crap!! CHANCE OF SNOW?? lol nice


I was snowed on at 3:30am on the playa, in August. Be prepared!
Ut ballista es interdico, tantum interdico mos fui ballista.
User avatar
Mojojita
 
Posts: 1031
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:17 am
Location: Under your bed

Re: Prevailing wind and 2007 camp direction

Postby some seeing eye » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:30 pm

How did this thread revive??

Compass North is East of true North by about 14 degrees. The maps and satellite photos are oriented to true North. Your magnetic North may vary - YMNMV
increasing the signal to noise ratio with compassion
User avatar
some seeing eye
 
Posts: 994
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:06 pm
Location: The Oregon
Burning Since: 1999
Camp Name: Woo

Re: Prevailing wind and 2007 camp direction

Postby AntiM » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:32 pm

I've seen snow on the mountains.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
These are not my fuckos.
User avatar
AntiM
Moderator
 
Posts: 16387
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:23 am
Location: Top O' the World, Ma!
Burning Since: 2001
Camp Name: Anti M's Home for Wayward Art

Re: Prevailing wind and 2007 camp direction

Postby ygmir » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:33 pm

some seeing eye wrote:How did this thread revive??

Compass North is East of true North by about 14 degrees. The maps and satellite photos are oriented to true North. Your magnetic North may vary - YMNMV


unless you're in the south Atlantic magnetic anomaly......
YGMIR

Unabashed Nordic
Pagan
User avatar
ygmir
 
Posts: 25989
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:36 pm
Location: nevada county
Burning Since: 2017
Camp Name: qqqq

Re: Prevailing wind and 2007 camp direction

Postby AntiM » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:45 pm

All threads on eplaya are undead unless locked.
These are not my fuckos.
User avatar
AntiM
Moderator
 
Posts: 16387
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:23 am
Location: Top O' the World, Ma!
Burning Since: 2001
Camp Name: Anti M's Home for Wayward Art

Re: Prevailing wind and 2007 camp direction

Postby phil » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:56 pm

Image

This was in 2000.
User avatar
phil
 
Posts: 2975
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:10 pm
Location: Codgerville

Re: Prevailing wind and 2007 camp direction

Postby Bob » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:58 pm

Anybody else find the term "prevailing wind" anthropocentrically anti-Gaia?
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/

"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
User avatar
Bob
 
Posts: 6762
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:00 am
Location: San Francisco
Burning Since: 1986
Camp Name: Royaneh

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby robbidobbs » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:13 pm

Prepare for 100mph winds that can last 48 hours and you're probably good. Just like the Cafe (loving you Bob). It wasn't that long ago that this did happen after the Event on Wednesday. It was nuts (info from a direct observer). The meteorological gods don't care. It's expected to be a hot and dry summer this year (per the Almanac). Hot means dirt. DO NOT LEAVE ANYTHING THAT CAN FLY UNPROTECTED.

Think about it. What can lift off at 100mph? A lot. Do a check of your camp before leaving, before whatever you're going to do. Constant diligence will keep that bullshit from flying to Winnemucca.

Gonzo designed a shade structure last year with double (!) tarps against the prevailing wind (what comes from Gerlach/Gate direction). Make sure that it can wobble so it doesn't break (lost a good cabin tent that way) Nice that it was so nice last year. Personally I'm hoping for some wrath of gawd dirt storm to enlighten some people.

Burningman isn't about nice. It's about personal experience. At times out there while working in the dirt storm, I just wanted to scream. And I'm good at this. Be warned.
Sometimes I just tickle myself.
13 years of doing the porta-potties wrong.
User avatar
robbidobbs
 
Posts: 2111
Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:07 pm
Location: Pottie Central
Burning Since: 1999
Camp Name: Dept of Over-Engineering

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby EspressoDude » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:26 am

The safest JOTS are the ones with the rows aligned towards Gerlach. (caution about wind catching the doors and smacking hands or fingers)

The JOTS near 10:00 or 2:00 are perpendicular to the prevailing wind and MAY be blown over.
Is 4 shots enuff? no foo-foo drinks; just naked Espresso
Tactical Espresso Service http://home.comcast.net/~espressocamp/
Field Artillery Tractor
FOGBANK, GOD OF HELLFIRE
BLACK ROCK f/x Trojan Horse,Anubis,2014Temple
burn shit and blow shit up
User avatar
EspressoDude
 
Posts: 4714
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:30 pm
Location: the first Vancouver

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby geospyder » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:54 am

We sailed around Cape Horn last month. I was up on deck when we had wind gusts of 87 knots (just a fraction over 100 mph). I was filming the waves sloshing in the pool when a gust hit and a number of the deck chairs, which were tied down, broke loose and went flying into the pool and over board. I've also been up on a mountain top with a number of Jeeps in extreme winds. I had to use my feet to push the door open. Another Jeep was parked facing the opposite way and when he opened his door it was ripped off. Long story short - winds can be dangerous - be prepared. I use a PVC exoskeleton on my tent. The normal poles will break in high winds.
Don't believe everything you think.
User avatar
geospyder
 
Posts: 1685
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:38 pm
Location: South of the Playa
Burning Since: 2009

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby BoyScoutGirl » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:58 am

Every time it rains heavily here in SoCal, it has made me curious about the weather in NV for the following days. So during three days of heavy rain and hail over the weekend, I kept checking on the precipitation predictions for Gerlach. Sure enough, rain and snow were predicted. Can anybody in the area report on how much actually fell? I'm new to the west coast, so maybe it's silly of me to think that weather patterns in San Diego have much to do with northern NV at all...

In general, given that the winter was so dry, should we expect some rain/snow now have much impact, dust-wise?

Disclaimer: obviously, we are all at the mercy of the weather/dust of the playa and our best bet is to simply be prepared for anything. The above questions are motivated by curiosity + Burning Man constantly on my mind, not some desperate hope for moderately reduced dustiness.


Maybe.
When he lights his streetlamp, it is as if he brought one more star to life, or one flower.
When he puts out his lamp, he sends the flower, or the star, to sleep.
That is a beautiful occupation.

- Le Petit Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
User avatar
BoyScoutGirl
 
Posts: 926
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:04 pm
Location: SD, CA
Camp Name: Lamplighters!

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby AntiM » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:16 pm

Pretty much too late. The water needs to be on the playa and undergo several hard freezes throughout winter. Spring rain? Nah. Damn dusty year.

Actually, the weather in SoCal affects us in Utah more than Nevada. Southern Utah especially. Gerlach gets the fronts rolling off NoCal and the PNW more than anything pushing up from the south.
These are not my fuckos.
User avatar
AntiM
Moderator
 
Posts: 16387
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:23 am
Location: Top O' the World, Ma!
Burning Since: 2001
Camp Name: Anti M's Home for Wayward Art

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby trilobyte » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:35 pm

+1 to what AntiM said. Unless it's a really massive weather system, what happens in San Diego (12ish hours South) wouldn't affect what's happening in Gerlach (Portland's closer). Welcome to California, btw.
User avatar
trilobyte
Site Admin
 
Posts: 10628
Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:54 pm
Location: San Francisco
Burning Since: 2004
Camp Name: Eridu Society

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby Bob » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:47 pm

True in the summer that blustery weather along the northern California coast translates to cooler and windier weather in the Great Basin, but winter storms that hit the playa could be sweeping generally eastward from the coast hereabouts, or down from the northwest if it's a strong Alaskan system. Water that ends up on the playa could be from direct precipitation, runoff from the immediate area, or snowmelt from the Quinn River watershed, which originates in SE Oregon.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/

"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
User avatar
Bob
 
Posts: 6762
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:00 am
Location: San Francisco
Burning Since: 1986
Camp Name: Royaneh

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby Trishntek » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:08 pm

geospyder wrote:
I had to use my feet to push the door open. Another Jeep was parked facing the opposite way and when he opened his door it was ripped off.


That sounds like a typical day in Shirley Basin, Wyoming. I honestly did not know snow could fall straight down until I was 23 years old!

As-far-as weather on the playa, it will be mostly sunny with regular dark periods and winds averaging 7 to 10 mph coming from somewhere between east and west and occasional bursts of 80 mph from somewhere between the north and south . It is possible you may be able to fry an egg on your car during the day, and make ice cubes in your cup during one of those dark periods. But no matter what, IT WILL BE DUSTY!
RETROFROLIC, the place of Pink, Pain and Pleasure!
http://www.retrofrolic.com
Some call me Tnt,,,, works for me!
User avatar
Trishntek
 
Posts: 3464
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:27 pm
Location: Ventura, CA, USA
Burning Since: 2010
Camp Name: Retrofrolic!

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby EspressoDude » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:45 pm

sometimes there are extremely localized winds and tornadoes just below the belt line...........................
Is 4 shots enuff? no foo-foo drinks; just naked Espresso
Tactical Espresso Service http://home.comcast.net/~espressocamp/
Field Artillery Tractor
FOGBANK, GOD OF HELLFIRE
BLACK ROCK f/x Trojan Horse,Anubis,2014Temple
burn shit and blow shit up
User avatar
EspressoDude
 
Posts: 4714
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:30 pm
Location: the first Vancouver

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby LostinReno » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:43 pm

Since the precip is similar in Reno/Sierra's as it is in Gerlach, this is a comparison of last year, what is average and this year. Look forward to some epic dust storms!
http://www.mynews4.com/media/lib/167/2/ ... _Tahoe.pdf

Sorry it's a PDF, I don't have the fancy version to change it to a .jpg
User avatar
LostinReno
 
Posts: 649
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:57 pm
Location: 4:30 & G
Burning Since: 2009

Re: Prevailing wind 2012

Postby lemur » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:59 pm

Image

thar she blows... no need to use a pdf
Don't link to anything here!
User avatar
lemur
 
Posts: 3599
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:07 pm
Location: Madagascar
Camp Name: Plug N Play Camp


Return to Q & A Tips and Tricks

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests