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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby CornMan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:42 am

If it is a shade mesh tarp, it would have a better chance than if it is a solid poly tarp.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Schtev » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:51 am

Zeke Chaparral wrote:If it is a shade mesh tarp, it would have a better chance than if it is a solid poly tarp.


Or maybe I could just make it a camp chore to take my tarp down every day around 5 or 6 and put it back up before going to sleep.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby MacGlenver » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:42 am

trilobyte wrote:Just had this relayed to me, comes from someone who's on-site at BRC...

"Over a 100 degrees everyday by 3pm. At 7-8pm for the last 3 nights we have had 60+ mph winds with dust whiteout. The playa is getting scrubbed by these high winds. We lost 2 roof so far from the Temple camp kitchen/camp area. We are running out of 40x50' tarps !!!!! Be prepared - all the town locals & old burners say this is one of the highest wind years. We expect continued storms for the next 2 nights. We had a 20' tall 50x50' structure demolised last night & it was just substructure of 2x8" wood - ripped off the foundation. Not enough cross bracing yet - uugh. "


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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby FlyingMonkey » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:45 am

steve.t.sullivan wrote:
trilobyte wrote:Just had this relayed to me, comes from someone who's on-site at BRC...

"Over a 100 degrees everyday by 3pm. At 7-8pm for the last 3 nights we have had 60+ mph winds with dust whiteout. The playa is getting scrubbed by these high winds. We lost 2 roof so far from the Temple camp kitchen/camp area. We are running out of 40x50' tarps !!!!! Be prepared - all the town locals & old burners say this is one of the highest wind years. We expect continued storms for the next 2 nights. We had a 20' tall 50x50' structure demolised last night & it was just substructure of 2x8" wood - ripped off the foundation. Not enough cross bracing yet - uugh. "


What possible chance could my little 12' x 16' tarp have against that? =(


Chance? 100%. That it will become a 12' X 16' kite.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby CornMan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:55 am

FlyingMonkey wrote:
steve.t.sullivan wrote:
trilobyte wrote:Just had this relayed to me, comes from someone who's on-site at BRC...

"Over a 100 degrees everyday by 3pm. At 7-8pm for the last 3 nights we have had 60+ mph winds with dust whiteout. The playa is getting scrubbed by these high winds. We lost 2 roof so far from the Temple camp kitchen/camp area. We are running out of 40x50' tarps !!!!! Be prepared - all the town locals & old burners say this is one of the highest wind years. We expect continued storms for the next 2 nights. We had a 20' tall 50x50' structure demolised last night & it was just substructure of 2x8" wood - ripped off the foundation. Not enough cross bracing yet - uugh. "


What possible chance could my little 12' x 16' tarp have against that? =(


Chance? 100%. That it will become a 12' X 16' kite.


Perhaps it would be a 12' x 16' kite that is held safely flat 7' off the ground with poles, fittings, bungee balls, straps, and rebar.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Schtev » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:29 am

Zeke Chaparral wrote:
FlyingMonkey wrote:
steve.t.sullivan wrote:
What possible chance could my little 12' x 16' tarp have against that? =(


Chance? 100%. That it will become a 12' X 16' kite.


Perhaps it would be a 12' x 16' kite that is held safely flat 7' off the ground with poles, fittings, bungee balls, straps, and rebar.


12' x 16' heavy duty silver poly tarp. Gorilla tape reinforcing around the grommets. A-frame pitch opening north/south with a peak around 5'3". Used climbers rope for guy lines. MSR adjustable tarp poles. 2' straight rebar stakes. Will this work, yes or no? I need to have a viable plan and I'm kinda freaking out here.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby TomServo » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:40 am

steve.t.sullivan wrote:
12' x 16' heavy duty silver poly tarp. Gorilla tape reinforcing around the grommets. A-frame pitch opening north/south with a peak around 5'3". Used climbers rope for guy lines. MSR adjustable tarp poles. 2' straight rebar stakes. Will this work, yes or no? I need to have a viable plan and I'm kinda freaking out here.


Sounds fine, just keep an eye on it during a good wind...to see how it handles and be ready to make repairs as necessary. Being 5'3" it's pretty low profile, so I doubt you'll have problems. Keep in mind, the wind normally blows in two, opposite, directions. Also, if your unsure of your knot tying skills, a little duct tape or gorilla tape around the knot is extra insurance.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:41 am

It sounds fine, but I don't know what those poles are. :?
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby TomServo » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:48 am

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Maybe slip some PVC pipe over it for reinforcement.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:08 pm

one thing is for certain.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Bob » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:43 pm

TomServo wrote:Image

Maybe slip some PVC pipe over it for reinforcement.


[cough]
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Bob » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:53 pm

steve.t.sullivan wrote:12' x 16' heavy duty silver poly tarp. Gorilla tape reinforcing around the grommets. A-frame pitch opening north/south with a peak around 5'3". Used climbers rope for guy lines. MSR adjustable tarp poles. 2' straight rebar stakes. Will this work, yes or no? I need to have a viable plan and I'm kinda freaking out here.


Practice putting it up with a nylon stocking tied around your face to simulate a dust white-out.

Sounds okay, though I'd go tall enough to walk under so you don't get clotheslined. Lots of ways to use those poles, buy a bunch if you can afford them. Two poles can be lashed together at the top to make a stronger A-frame arrangement that you can guy off to a single stake. Tie the bases of all the poles to stakes once you have the layout determined.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Bob » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:07 pm

But this really is the wrong fucking thread for this.

Hey, look at the pretty clouds!

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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Schtev » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:27 pm

Bob wrote:But this really is the wrong fucking thread for this.

Hey, look at the pretty clouds!

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You know a movie that had clouds just like that? INDEPENDENCE DAY! WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby JovReef » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:31 pm

*makes a mental note to add steel breast plate & helmet to all my costumes*
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby VultureChow » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:38 pm

I am so fucked. My tent will hold, but I'm worried about my giant heavy duty tarp. It basically just lies over the tent and then is staked directly to the ground on either side. The extensions I built to hold it off the tent 12 inches won't hold, so I'm leaving them off. I'm more concerned about them coming loose and damaging my tent. So I'm attempting to rig a tiny figjam cooler. I have an old computer fan, a battery operated sump pump and a bucket. I'm going to hit Home Depot tonight and see what I can rig up. I will find a way to sleep out there.

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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby TomServo » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:44 pm

Bob wrote:
TomServo wrote:Image

Maybe slip some PVC pipe over it for reinforcement.


[cough]


That's called an MSR adjustable pole. As previously mentioned.

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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:14 pm

and in today's sports score:

Wind 9, Portapotties 0.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:20 pm

steve.t.sullivan wrote:
Bob wrote:But this really is the wrong fucking thread for this.

Hey, look at the pretty clouds!

Image


You know a movie that had clouds just like that? INDEPENDENCE DAY! WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!

You know another movie that had clouds just like that? Koyaanisqatsi! WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOMED!!1
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Just_Joe » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:26 pm

VultureChow wrote:I am so fucked.

No your'e not. Yet.
This batch of storms blowing through is unseasonable.
They don't know what it's going to be like in ten days.
Winos of change and all....
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:28 pm

It's an ill wino that blows nobody any good.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Schtev » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:35 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:and in today's sports score:

Wind 9, Portapotties 0.


Oh hell, is that from today?
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:37 pm

It's the "E" ticket ride of BM! :twisted:
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Canoe » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:25 pm

I've been worried about getting my plywood pop-up roof done for the trailer. Seems Like I should be skipping that and make a lower roof stronger...

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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby stew » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:53 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:and in today's sports score:

Wind 9, Portapotties 0.

bring a bucket.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby maladroit » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:59 pm

Dust so thick you have to wave a shovel in front of you to walk, sun hot enough to fry an egg in the shell, so cold at night your vodka freezes, wind strong enough to fold rebar flat to the playa, mile-wide tornado at Center Camp every day at 8PM, a pack of rabid wolves, RV's blowing by like tumbleweeds, dessicated husks of hippies piled against the trash fence, every camp is a dubstep sound camp.
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:06 pm

You forgot the 50 FOOT DUST BUNNIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Bounce530 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:10 pm

The sun's so hot that not only does it fry an egg in the shell, but the bacon EXPLODES!
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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Schtev » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:10 pm

FIGJAM wrote:You forgot the 50 FOOT DUST BUNNIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:


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Re: Playa Climate Prediction Center

Postby Eric » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:50 pm

TomServo wrote:
Bob wrote:[cough]


That's called an MSR adjustable pole. As previously mentioned.

Image


Um. Go look at the site linked in Bob's profile. He is very much one of the resident experts on building on the playa (he's just not exactly the "chatty" type), and you will probably find answers to your questions there.
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